INTRODUCTION: "I think earth might be flat. Why do we trust NASA so much...?"

in #introduceyourself7 years ago (edited)

Recently the internet has blown up with talk about this flat earth theory. It is for good reason that any such discussion comes up. It's about time someone questioned the globe earth theory. If flat was such a ridiculous dumbfounded and easily refutable concept, we would have debunked it for ourselves once and for all by now. Who are NASA, anyway? Do you know?

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The funny thing is, all "Flat Earthers" began with the intention to debunk. Flat Earthers are intelligent people, using simple perception and honest open-minded reasoning about their earth experience. All Flat Earthers were once space cowboys spinning on Planet in a billion zillion galaxies moving at a squillion miles per hour, just like you may believe you are spinning today. It's only a belief. What is a belief; a collection of thoughts, thought often, until accepted as truth. What actual evidence do you have of your beliefs? The difference between us, is we spent days and maybe weeks, months and years attempting to find earth evidence, to debunk the ridiculous flat theory, and we have all failed.

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"They used to say Earth was flat," -- YEAH, MAYBE BECAUSE IT IS.

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All this falling off the edge stuff is irrelevant. Where is the "edge" of YOUR Universe, and why don't you fall of it?! No matter what approach we all take, we all found a lack of evidence, both experiential and experimental to support a spinning globe. There is literally no way to "prove" it. This seems odd, for something so seemingly obvious. There must be an experiment we can all perform ourselves?! Nope. Every experiment I have attempted thus far, indicates that we are immovable, upon a plain with horizontal horizon and heavens revolving above. Just the way it looks, and feels.

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I've never been to space. I've never seen any convincing videos of space or "planet"-earth. The moon landing is some kind of a joke when you review the footage nowadays. I read people easily; their words, face expressions and body language. Moon landing interviews are embarrassing and cringe worthy as these freemason "astronauts" awkwardly explain the moon to news reporters, as if they fantasising about it, which they were. They seem very, very nervous. Maybe their own lives, wives and children are in danger, threatened if they if they do not follow Apollo 11 orders.

They do not seem very excited, unlike people who have just been to the moon, and back!

Reporting to the public as if the operation moon landing was a real mission, after filming for the past few weeks in a hollywood basement is one of our greatest clues to uncover layers of lies about "space travel". Do you never wonder why we have not returned to the moon? If we went once before, surely we should be flying there with greater and greater ease with our advancing technology.

We will continue to uncover more simple and true observations, and ask more questions. Be skeptical, questions are encouraged. Questions are Answers.

@Flat-Earth

"The greatest lie ever told is that we are not God."

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Great post! BTW, historically people have thought the earth flat longer than they did round. Many people will criticize this theory without really investigating it, but if you keep an open mind there are many facts that contradict a round earth.

Thank ful for some reasonable calm investigative clarity on the subject. Thank you, i've included you in my next post; review of comments! :)

Hello I just joined steemit. I have researched the spinning ball theory and it doesn't hold water. great to see that there are others out there who can still use there brains. love it Flat earth is truth and flat earth is a family. peace love people

Your attitude & observations are spot on. And based on this, I have followed your account to see what other wisdom you have to share :)

Human power is that his believe become his reality... so that will explain also the parallels words... We believe in a lots of different theories, by doing so we make them real, so on the same planet flat or round we are actually living in parallels worlds... =)
TIME TO STOP BELIEVE IN FLAT OR ROUND BUT IN A GOOD POSITIVE FUTURE IN HARMONY... Then we will create this other parallel world that will grow in harmony, peace & love... <3

Interesting post ;) Thanks you.

Awwww how cute of you Michael! "Lets all get along and believe both theories co-exist in parallel worlds." Do you have any actual evidence of this Michael? Sounds peaceful and pleasant, but realistically both cannot co-exist. Just because you don't personally want to accept we've been lied to yet, does not make it any less likely.

I have evidence; horizontal horizons, self-levelling water and sensations of stillness, backed up my timelapses of star cycles.

Explain this away with spinning balls, atmospheric velcro & parallel reality tunnels and I'll be impressed. Evidence bro, no bedtime fairytales allowed. Oh, and I don't know what "Interesting" means. Please expand with more specifics..

"People will believe whatever reality is presented to them. It's as simple as that"
--THE TRUMAN SHOW.

I can see how you may have misunderstood the intention behind Michael's words. English is not his first language. He is a personal friend here in Bali and one of the most positive and open-minded people I know.

I think what he is trying to say is that our perception is what creates our reality so a discussion surrounding the shape of our playground can have the effect of creating further division amongst us, distracting us from the beautiful truth that there is no truth, only perception! And if we could all just focus on a "GOOD POSITIVE FUTURE IN HARMONY" the shape of our playground would become irrelevant and a parallel world would be created full of "harmony, peace & love"

Whilst this is true, there must always be those who are brave enough to share their own truth in the face of such huge unwillingness to question that which is simply taken for granted.

WE MUST QUESTION EVERYTHING AND TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED.

The more I learn about our playground, the more I realise how little I know!

I wrote a similar article around six months ago and like you I received a similar response from the community. So Mr flat-earth, I applaud you and wholeheartedly encourage you to keep sharing your truth :)

Im not a Mr. and I did not miss the harmonious intention; "discussion surrounding the shape of our playground can have the effect of creating further division amongst us" -- or could it be what will unite us...eventually? How will we find out? I suspect the latter, hence the discussion was never-ever about shape, but about deception, and passive acceptance of it.

My goal is to be funny, entertaining to read, while speaking in truths. Whatever the language, Michael is aware I love him, I was already aware he is a good friend, which is why I tease as I do. It's not as if I have heard him in your tutorials. Remember my goals; to be funny, entertaining to read, while speaking in truths. ;)

i hope this is comedy...

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Thanks for performing the mindless ridicule bit! Maybe you know info I don't, why NASA have not returned to the moon for 45 years?

I would encourage you to make a lengthy investigation of this subject before judging so quickly.

It is unknown to most people that tests have already been conducted which prove that the geocentric model of our Universe is in fact far more likely to be accurate than the heliocentric model we have been conditioned to believe as truth.

The idea that humans are positioned at the centre of the Universe is a very dangerous one for those who seek to control us. They would much rather we believe that we are nothing special and the product of pure chance... floating somewhere on the outer rim of the Milky Way, with the sun as the centre.

You will find upon investigation that there are many things about the globe earth idea which simply don't add up.

I cannot say for sure what we are living on, which is why I refer to it as a playground these days.

What I can say for sure is that there is a well established control system which does not seek to tell us TRUTH. Only to continue their grip of control. And there are many ways in which this is achieved.

Question everything my friend. The rabbit hole goes deep.

How do you explain this engineer's work?

His multiple instruments are all wrong? How do you explain the ISS's videos of it flying around the Earth? Why are the people spreading this nonsense almost always hiding behind fake names? Coincidence? I don't think so...

All NASA media, such as "ISS's videos of it flying around the Earth" are fake CGI, much like hollywood space movies. Eric Dubay is a name you could research further if you feel skeptical or fearful of anonymous usernames. Peace be with you.

No thanks. Did you watch the engineer's videos? He proves the Earth isn't flat.

He sits in a chair, talking. I did not find it conclusive as evidence. It is not my task to explain an engineers work or instruments. I would like to see it, personally if possible? I am certain you will find 10 more "proofs" - in 10 minutes. It must be easy, you'd have proofs coming out your ears, if it were true.... https://www.youtube.com/user/ericdubay77

If you bothered to listen to it, he is explaining the experiments he does in the next videos.

One is where he stands on a beach across from the Chicago city buildings. He takes a calculation. Then he goes high up the beach and takes another calculation. It proves without any doubt that the Earth is a sphere.

Of course you don't want to watch it because it simply and easily disproves your theory.

It's really cool I have fans now. Thanks so much for always replying, it's flattering! If I have not even watched it, how would I know it so "simply and easily disproves your theory"?

We can play the have you watched game. Have you watched the video about the moon landing above?

You have sent this video to me previously, I recognise it. Other than this guy, whatdya got? lets have it..

Yet again you failed to provide 10 more proof examples... lets cut it down to just 5.. ? Any other proofs , at all..? Im desperate.

I'm not your fan. This is how Steemit works. We reply. I could have simply muted you, but I'm hoping to learn something new. Please argue your case. That's what I'm doing.

Let's cover one topic at a time, shall we? We can talk about the Moon later.

Other than this guy? He uses modern day readily available equipment and easy math to dispute your claim.

You don't like his video, ehh? I'm shocked. /sarc I believe he discussed three ways he planned to prove his case. No, it's not 5 or 10, but then... It is easy math and a simple process. We have to have 10 ways, or it is automatically wrong?

Welcome to Steem @flat-earth I have upvoted and sent you a tip

Upped & Resteemed.

I would like to know how long you have been researching this subject and if you have been able to run any tests of your own?

Thanks for the questions Sam! I will answer in detail in my next post. It has been years of questioning that brought me to this simple observation. It has become easier to discuss now that the internet is catching up with the realistic possibility of a our Divine Creation.

Excellent. Looking forward to more :)

There is a great documentary you should check if you haven't already called 'The Principle' which examines the history of the Geocentric/Heliocentric debate... and at the end reveals recent findings which prove that our playground is in fact at the CENTRE of this thing we call our Universe. And this seems to disturb a lot of people!

Needless to say, the film was banned from multiple festivals and attacked on so many levels, it remains to be a relatively unknown documentary.

Oooh very cool, thankyou!

Welcome here @Flat-earth !! Nice post, i will follow your account, please follow me.

Welcome to Steemit @flat-earth! It is great to have you here! :D

i dont care

You don't care you've been deceived? You don't even have energy left to care anymore? There's a clue.

not bothered

It's actually really really good news. Awakenings happen, bothered or not! You're quite right to not be bothered! Let's celebrate!

The flat earth argument was lost several thousand years ago. Science happened. What would the point in lying about it?

Damn, I promised myself not to go down this road again ;)

Ah, I see. You are a worshipper of "science". The Ultimate Question: WHY LIE? To set you up. For what? Evolution.

To keep you blind to your own Divinity.

ROFL! We are just specks in the universe, but we are still special

What is a ROFL? Does it benefit our discussion? -this is rhetorical, and you are still special.

How do you know we are specks in the universe? - this is a genuine question.

I am genuinely intrigued, what is your most conclusive experiential evidence "we are specks in the universe"? [specify how you know]

There's this cool thing called science. Millions devote their lives to it all over the world from all cultures and countries. Thousands of years ago early scientists noticed evidence that they didn't live on a flat earth, e.g. different angle of the sun, different stars when they reached the southern hemisphere. We have used that knowledge to explore our world and beyond. The spherical (okay, not a perfect sphere) model is used to model weather, ocean currents and navigation. It works very well. I've been to the other side of the world and I know what jet lag feels like.

If you are happy ignoring all this then it probably makes no difference to your life and I wish you all the best.

BTW some friends of mine who work on space technology will be really miffed that all their efforts are wasted.

Im flattered to have all these new fans, let me know when those space technology friends of yours, actually go to space.

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