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RE: Censoring Hive: It's Happening Right Now

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Who is king of Steem today? There is little disagreement amongst his victims and intended prey that Sun Yuchen has complete control over what data is shared from the blockchain via Stinc's APIs from which the user dapps draw. This allows him to completely block posts and comments from those he would censor from being seen by everyone on those dapps, like Steempeak.

Who is king of Hive? Who has that power here? @themarkymark.

Who wants him to have that power over them without public knowledge, possibility of discussion and denial of censorship over their accounts, or restoration of their participation, or even existence in the minds of their fellows?

Do you? I sure don't. @joe.public's censorship is proof to all of us that we are just as much @themarkymark's subjects as Steemers are Sun Yuchen's. @joe.public replied to Bernies spam until Bernie quit spamming, and then @joe.public ended up being completely censored by @themarkymark.

Not Bernie. @joe.public was censored. Not the spammer who posted tens of thousands of pictures of poop in a toilet, but those that opposed that spam, are censored by @themarkymark.

If you anger Bernie, or Marty, or they just decide they're tired of your posts, nothing now prevents them from putting you on that #irredeemables list and ending your existence on Hive.

We need to create a mechanism that enables the community to control this power, or we allow this community to become completely and totally subject to @themarkymark's total control. You might like Marty. You might love him like you love your mother, but I would not grant my mother herself this ability to hide me from the world without any appeal.

If we don't have a process to approve those put on the #irredeemables list, Hive does not have any resistance or control of censorship, and that makes the claim - and the very purpose of Hive, as you point out - utterly hallucinatory, a mere pretend game we play.

Ask @joe.public if he had free speech on Hive, and if Hive was censorship resistant.

Ask Sun Yuchen if Steem is censorship resistant. He'll give you the same answer Marty will when asked the same question regarding Hive. Censors always lie, because it doesn't matter. They can just silence you if you don't speak the agreement they demand.

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"Not Bernie. @joe.public was censored. Not the spammer who posted tens of thousands of pictures of poop in a toilet, but those that opposed that spam, are censored by @themarkymark."

That seems silly as you describe it. It's an obvious and understandable reason for outrage. I sincerely hope it isn't just a shield of nepotism protecting Bernie from these anti-spam measures.

Still I'd like to see @themarkymark articulate his current perspective on that matter. If only I could see what @joe.public has to say too, even if it might be "less than tactful" as you put it.

I've lived through a few bouts of acute tact deficiency in my day, and it's not like he could reach through the internet and wring my neck.

I see by your vote on it you have seen @themarkymark's comment I have.

Because I don't know how this link will be treated given the censorship mechanism, I have also provided this screenshot of the comment by @joe.public.

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The link works.

That comment by @themarkymark is only a single sentence framing his sentiment. It's obviously not a comprehensive articulation of the situation from his perspective. Hopefully we will get one.

Pretty sure he doesn't want to say any more about this at all.

Yeah really it doesn’t matter who has the power, if it isn’t in the hands of the people then the platform has already failed.