Facts#!!! A lot of newbies are becoming frustrated..... I just want to help. Tell me how.

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

I have been going through a lot of newbies post and the amount of frustration they are passing through isn't very good for the future of Steemit. We need new members to keep growing.

Some of these people make quality content, but no one sees it. Most of them now stay permanently on steemit.chat begging for votes. I get so many links sent to me as direct messages begging for votes. 

It is important to note that I'm not a whale, not even a dolphin. I'm still in the category of minnows, but I get such messages. It shows these people are frustrated and looking for just anyone who would listen to them.

I really don't know how I can help on this issue. I do give out gifts to quality comments on my post sometimes. I started a project to appreciate people creating values for steemit network. I also included rewarding people who would nominate. This is to contribute to the growth and development of Steemit in my own little way. 

I’m still trying to find a place at the top, but we can move together.

Life isn't complete if you are living for yourself alone. I really want to be of service to newbies and the entire Steemit community. 

If there is anything you think I can do to help you as a newbie, please state it in the comment below.

If there is anything you think Steemit developers can do to make the network more comfortable for everyone, fell free to leave it in the comment section. They might come across this post.

Most importantly;

Create quality contents that add values to the network. 

Adopt the virtues of persistence and perseverance. 

Have fun and don't focus so much on the rewards.

Read other contents and learn from it, not just for the reason to make comments and get seen. There are a lot to learn from this great network. Read to comprehend and not to comment. 

Socialize with other users. That's why it is a social media. 

Appreciate those who have helped you in one way or the other here. I created an Avenue to do so. Nominate the person here. You can win Steem for nominating.

Instead of complaining, please make reasonable suggestions that could make things better.

If you haven't voted for a witness, please do so here

@papa-pepper is our winner for yesterday's Steemit-appreciatesyou project. I'll be making an appreciation post for him shortly. Please stay tuned to appreciate this great fellow who's doing so much for this community.

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its the same on all social networks.
people who are old, trusted and have followers get more views (and money in the end).

youtube, instagram whatever - it all works the same. do you see people on youtube getting frustrated they dont make 1 million USD a month from their first video like pewdiepie? :)

@kingscrown, I appreciate your comment here. However, I believe steemit has different ideologies from that of others you mentioned. Nevertheless, they are not supposed to get frustrated because Steemit is paying them for doing same theng they did for free on other social media.

Thanks.

Have fun and don't focus so much on the rewards

I think this is very crucial to not getting frustrated. You have to enjoy what you're doing, the content your creating and the people you are interacting with here on steemit. If you're just doing it for the rewards you'll get burnt out very quickly. Humans are good at telling when you are being genuine and when you're not. Be genuine and have fun!

Exactly my point @britt.the.ish. it could be a lot easier if seen as a place to socialize.

Thanks for this comment.

nonononono i want my million tomorrow.... on my account
hahaha ;-)

Resteemed

@shayne is a successful Steemer. And he has some great posts with tips on how to get established on Steemit. Good luck to all.

Thanks for this info @sv67216721. I hope they find the post.

I think a helpful way to get more newbies seen is to have direct links to subject matter such as "politics", "yoga", "foodie" next to the "hot", "trending", and "promoted" buttons. This way there is more of a chance of being seen. And I realize that there are buttons on the side, but the top of the page is usually what grabs people's immediate attention. Resteeming this!

I agree with that, Cindy. Also the general design. I had a whole conversation with another woman today and she's hesitating to join Steemit, because of the way it looks. While it helps to look beyond the looks :) most people who stumble upon Steemit, may not have anyone to convince them of Steemit's benefits beyond the looks.
I think the more non-geek "average" people join Steemit, it would be a good idea to review the design, the structure and the user experience.

Yes it takes some tech savvy-ness, but there are plenty of articles from them and other steemians that have helped me navigate this. I believe it will get more streamlined and less techy and more user friendly over time. This company is still new and they are all genuises. It's going to turn out great. Now is the time to jump on before the common man finds out! :)

Agree :) Curios to see what it's going to look like in a year (and where the price will be :))

@cindybowen, thanks for your contribution and the Resteem. I appreciate it a lot.

As a new joiner what I found interesting was this; someone I followed on youtube started posting here, we joined about the same time. We'd had similar view counts and gathered more and more followers. Then a few days ago he commented that a whale had spotted him and the $$ gains he racked up was almost surreal. I'm thrilled for him, as his stuff is unique and original.
So it is an interesting element that the "whale notice" and all the "tricks" needed to gather upvotes/$$$. It's very game-like.
Maybe Steem could add some human readers to actually read some of the great original content, just an idea, I see many great original articles with a handful of readers, it's these talented original content providers that will be the first ones out after a few months if their work stays buried.
Not complaining at all, this is your system and it has worked thus far, just my observation after a month on Steem. Thanks for noticing!

There are a lot of projects promoting and rewarding great contents here. Look for the one that fits more.

Thanks for this comment @bitcoinforblonds.

Og, this was in no way a complaint ! I write for fun with no expectations and if I make a few bucks, great! I was just sharing an interesting observation. I probably wont spend any time learning the "tricks" and just keep on sharing my little musings! Doing anything with big expectations often lead to disappointment anyway!!!

@bitcoinforblonds I didn't say you were complaining. I appreciate your positive energy.

Steem On!

My advise for newbies is.
There is nothing to it other then post quality content, engage in the community not just by posting a generic comment, read the article and add a comment of value and the last thing is don't give up keep trying it takes time to get noticed and if you've only been on here a week you can't expect much more.
Oh also don't add everybody in the hope of a follow back, only follow people that you genuinely like their material and people will follow you the same.
All the followers you want know exactly what your doing when you mass add people and they won't follow you back it's pointless.
You want genuine followers not just people that clog your feed

Agree that you shouldn't follow everyone, just to get a follow back, but after about a month I did Follow a ton of people in the hopes of meeting new interesting people faster, like you, and the above post, I may have never met or seen your stuff, cause of the feed list is not perfect atm, anyway just a reply from one of your followers^^ post here Resteemed!

I'll admit I used to follow everyone that followed me until I realised it's not a good idea because half the stuff you see you don't want to see and half the stuff you want to see you won't because of the amount of posts on your feed.
That reminds me I need to clean up the people I'm following

Lol, since I'm new I do follow all my followers, to see how they post, but atm missing feeds is just normal, mostly due to time, but alot is because of my internet at some points in the day..thanks for the reply! btw if i do see like porn or stuff...rare...I unfollow.

Trust me don't only follow the ones that really do interest you. You'll thank me for it later!

I did that on Youtube...but on steemit, to jump up a train car or 2 I do need to see lots of content, and learn, as of now I have stopped following unless I enjoyed the content, but bout a month ago, I decided to follow all of a bloggers followers to see what would happen, jumped up to 537 follows as of now, gaining bout 20 a day...I do weekly series mabe you would enjoy, check out my newest release here:
https://steemit.com/steem/@larutanton/starman-vol-2-episode-006-starman-meets-the-arizona-police
And I will take your advice to heart and make good decisions from now on^^
THANKS!

I'll give it a look when I get home 😀

Thanks for the Resteem @larutanton. It's good to follow people you like their contents.

Yours is one of them, I only resteem content I think might help, or be enjoyed by my followers^^ Peace, thanks so much for the reply!

"You want genuine followers not just people that clog your feed" I love this comment so much.
People will just make a comment like "I followed you, follow me back". I don't use such avenues to pick people I follow.
Having a lot of people clogging your feeds is the reason why people with high followership get little notice on their posts.

Thanks so much @alexrichards86 for this comment.

Yes it's pointless I don't add any of the "I follow you, you follow me people" I also only add people I find interesting from reading their post.

You've chosen the right path.

Steem On!!!

Surprisingly some people do not see "I follow you, you follow me" as basic steemit etiquette. I have only been on steemit for a month and am also surprised at quite a few generic posts or the ones that reply to a video post that is not possible before they could have watched the video.

Yes or the "nice post" or "good post".
They ain't fooling anyone but themselves, if your gonna comment on an article at least have the decency to read it

"or the ones that reply to a video post that is not possible before they could have watched the video"
That's true @newsdesk. I saw someone make a comment on a post that was not up to 3 minutes. And on the average, it would take at least 5 minutes to read the post. The author of the post had to ask him if he read the post.

i am one of them

If there is anything you think I can do to help you, let me know about it.

My advise: Quality over quantity...and the money you make from posts...put it into steem power and you will pick up more traction. also, don't forget to have fun doing it

So true. @alex-icy, thanks for your contribution.

The frustrated newcomers are just as frustrated in life. They are not used to having to put in hard work to achieve something. Just as this new generation of Millennials are used to getting everything handed to them. Nothing is free in life. You have to fight for what you stand for. I joined Steemit last week, and the community is awesome. I already contribute to writing content related to programming, and I plan on doing so in the foreseeable future. Cheers guys. :)

Wow! I'm impressed with your enthusiasm.
I'll go through your work later.
Thanks for this @adnanrahic.

I can understand the frustration of putting hours into a post and not getting what you perceive to be a fair reflection of your effort but as you say it takes time, persistence and perseverance. You need to network, make those connections. Get to know people and let them get to know you and above all make great content. I wish I knew a magic formula for success - I would certainly use it myself 😁 - but I think all we can do is keep keeping on and look at the big picture. Don't focus on the rewards today, build your following for a better tomorrow.

Awesome contribution @gmuxx. Thanks for this.

Thank you for saying so. I just try to pass one what I have learned so far

You are welcome.

I really support your idea. Help keep beginners lest they get frustrated. Including myself is still a beginner and almost discouraged.

@berkat, please don't get frustrated. How would you want me to help you.?

Yes i really need your help. I'm almost disappointed because many of my posts are worth nothing and no one is interested in my posts.

I'll go through it, and see the ones I'll Upvote and resteem. Don't expect much from me because I'm still a minnow here.

Cheers!!!

Thank you friend. Follow @berkat

@berkat, I went through your post, but could not read them. You don't use the English language for writing. Except for the Koreans, I don't think I have seen any other language making it so well here.

Oce from now on i will write english

Thank you for this caring, helpful post. I think your suggestions are right on the mark. I would message these to anyone asking for help. Steemit is just like anything in life you have to put in the work and pursue excellence to be rewarded. It is great to have mentors like you to encourage and teach us to be valuable members of this community.

I'm humbled by this complement. Thanks so much @suzique.

Great post as to tell people how to get started. Cheers.

Thank you. I'm a newbie too. Trying my best to learn as much as i can, doing a lot of searching in the past posts that address my questions. i'll get there soon.

@geofreykafeero welcome to steemit. I wish you all the best here.

Steem On!!!

This is great. Newbies will be greatly encouraged by this post. Another example of a supportive steemian.

@positivesteem, thanks for this comment.

You are welcome.

You are welcome.

Some great points made! Followed
I made a comment on another post a few days ago talking about how its easy to change your perspective on SteemIt if u look at the platform as an actual physical community that was recently established. To elaborate on that concept a lil...
If you're new in town u wouldn't be : asking for handouts, expecting attention, complaining when u just got here, etc.
What u should be doing if u want some status is : building genuine relationships, finding ways to provide value, investing in the infrastructure.
I might expand on this idea and make it my next post...

Engagement, engagement and engagement is the key to SteemIt folks! this is the first time in history you'll have a chance to brand yourself! Twitter, Facebook, the rest , just took , and TOOK from you! As a mod of SteemIt.chat ( I have to plug as it's a great way to meet people!) , I've seen by the hundreds ask , for a follow back and don't engage w/ with folks there. I SAW the flip-side of that and the people who stayed around in chat and engaged have made tons of money now and HAVE A GREAT GROUP OF FRIENDS!

Absolutely true. I did the same thing I'm here on facebook, but nobody paid me for it.

Thanks for this comment @steemitqa.

Hi ogo, thank you for the post, this is a cause of concern for a lot of newbie, please I will want to reach you for an extensive discussion. Whatsapp or mail will do.

Reach me on steemit.chat.

I hope the upcoming flattening of rewards in hard fork 19 helps to address this issue. I have been lucky and, despite being brand new, some of my content has gotten a lot of attention. Unfortunately, a lot of similar quality content I produced did not, and I can completely empathize with those who would be frustrated having not gotten lucky.

Perseverance will help them pull through.

Thanks for this comment @lexiconical.

I really appreciate your post, ogoowinner!

While there are certainly a lot of things that could be easier here (e.g. all info for newbies in one place, rather than in lots of different articles by different people - but OK that's decentralisation I guess :)) - I also believe that it does take time and effort to become successful. Just like anywhere else.

With the difference that we're all here voluntarily and can earn money with something we ENJOY doing. Nobody promised anyone FREE MONEY on Steemit - this is proof-of-work after all :)

Yes, it can be frustrating making only a few cents on an article. But hey, before Steemit, we all received zero for our articles! And we made all that effort to gain followers on Facebook, Instagram etc. FOR ZERO FINANCIAL RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

So we have to make an effort here, too. WITH a financial ROI.
(I am addressing myself with this speech, because of course I've also been getting a little bit discouraged at times, but begging whales for votes is simply not the right way. They had to earn their status with hard work, too.

Excellent comment @connecteconomy. That's what they have failed to understand. Steemit is paying you for the same thing you've been doing for free.

@crystalandbones thought you would like to share this with The Man. :) We love steemit and it's genius. I am not a genius and I know they are working hard on this to make it even more accessible to the masses. <3

Lol! The Man is busy with his newest project.

Thanks for your comment @cindybowen.

Great information.
Followed and resteemed.

Thank you.

Very nice post. I am online and offline to advertise for the community
If I can help say modest. I'll follow you from now

For you developers and people working on steemit. Try to make it more user friendly. I think a better homepage with content categorized by user interest would look nicer. I would say even go and copy medium.com a little bit regarding their design. But they aren't perfect also so you could build on it and make steem better.

@adokce, thanks for this comment. You can try using Busy.org

I want to share it

Thank you.

Very helpful :)

Thank you.

100% agree with you @ogoowinner, Keep Helping beginners because many of them are the future of steemit community.

if I talk about my self, I am also new but I have spent years on many platforms from PTC to affiliate programes and from youtube to many social media scam sites. there's a list of hundreds of sites in my bookmarks but now I am here and not going anywhere.

steemit is my home now and I'm quite sure about that.
we need people like you... thank you so much...

@raja, thank you for this.

I followed, voted up and resteem.

Thank you.

good post

Thank you.

Nice post so I vote you

Thank you.

Nicely conveyed and explained.

You sound like a dolphin who is still working at becoming a whale. Love seeing that about you.

By the way, I don't even know what I am. I feel like a drunk whale who is being labeled as a dolphin, but being treated, by the same consensus who labeled me as a dolphin, as a wet rat, lol.

Anyways, if I have anything to help you with, this is what I want to say...

I think I am simply being lucky to be here as an early bird of this revolutionary Steemit project before the rest of the 7 billion population on this earth learn about it. Do the math using that fact.

What I mean is that when Bitcoin was still worth about $5 about 5 or 6 years ago, the minnow members were going through the same feelings that our minnows are feeling right now.

If they are feeling like me, like I don't have the talent to succeed in this, tell them they are already in good position. Just relax, enjoy, persist, strategize, learn, and grow.

In the end, most of the frustrated newbies will be more than fine.

There are trillions and trillions of dollars yet to be converted into cryptocurrency, and the market cap in this industry is still at an infant level, if you think about it.

You comment sums it up. If they can understand this comment, they would start dancing immediately and stop feeling frustrated.

@malem, thanks so much for this awesome contribution.

I'm still a minnow.

Right there with you @ogoowinner, we need to do all we can to help out the little guys because they are the lifeblood of the platform. without them we will not see the results that we are looking for and will see another large number of unactive.

Thanks for this comment @isaac.rodebush. We need to encourage them.

I'm really inspired by the phrase you quipped "Adopt the virtues of persistence and perseverance".. This will definitely keep me going

Good. Steem on!!!

Thanks for your comment.

I'm really inspired by the phrase you quipped "Adopt the virtues of persistence and perseverance".. This will definitely keep me going

I've noticed this too. Many newbies are getting demotivated by low rewards after a few posts.

If you get those messages begging for votes, you can link them to my website www.steemit.promo
This is a project I created where I give people the chance to get featured on my blog, therefore having a bigger audience and possibly gaining new followers and SBD of course.

@sirwinchester, thanks for your contribution to the growth of this network.

I'll do as you suggested.

Muchas gracias por lo que trasmites en tu post. Yo me inicie en steemit principalmente por tener un beneficio economico, al igual que muchos otros venezolanos que pasamos un momento de crisis, he publicado cada día y no he obtenido mucho pero me siento tranquila porque esta plataforma me ha permitido alejarme de mis problemas y cada día me inspiro mas en escribir y publicar mis poemas. En algún momento los leeran muchos. Somos tantos en esta comunidad pero no lo veo como competencia para mi ha sido un aprendizaje leer tantos temas diferentes.. Gracias por tu interés hacia los novatos en Steemit. :)

Thanks so much for helping other to success. Great post like this can surely help!

You said it all, we newbies must have a correct mindset on steemit; I've told myself that I must do my best for steemit community, I have also tried not to be discouraged for the poor rewards that I get, therefore I've committed myself in just doing what is right to my ability. @ogoowinner, thanks for your caring heart, you're living by example; you've advised me a lot on the best approach to steemit community, keep it up. For newbies like me; please lets be ourselves, there is one thing constant with nature; GROWTH! am still a friend @maxdevalue.

I completely agree! Newbies need to grow to! I hope this isn't going to be like youtube, where the whales sit at the top and choose who they promote to grow. If it's like this then I'm leaving Steemit.

It's my belief and hope that hard fork 19 will address a lot of these issues. Stay tuned and keep at it. There's so much growth opportunity here.
Upvoted and resteemed.

Nice post here and good to get your insight as I'm a newbie too. Thanks!! Gandering through your posts...looks like I might do some reading tonight.