There has been a lot to talk about self-voting on steemit lately, so I thought I'd share my thoughts openly on the subject.
WHAT I REALLY THINK ABOUT SELF VOTING
VOTE FOR ME, I DO ???
First off, let's remember a few things. People are free to use their votes however they want. This means that if they want to post ten times a day and only vote for themselves, they are completely free to do so. However, I think that many of us would realize that we are all a part of a community. You are not a community.
If you support what you do, you should feel free to vote for yourself. For minnows out there, it really doesn't make a huge difference anyway and you are not even coming close to "draining the rewards pool" by doing so. Feel free to support yourself, but I would highly recommend supporting others too. Some people vote for themselves far more often than others, and a fun way to check is to use this tool : http://steemreports.com/outgoing-votes-info/?account=papa-pepper&days=31
I left my name in the search engine, but swap it out for any other account on steemit. Also, you can adjust the days to search from 1 to 31, so you can check the votes of others over the past day to the past month. Try your own name, and see how you are doing.
Personally, while people are free to do things however they want, they must remember that their actions have consequences. If you want to hear more of what I think, just watch the video above. Thanks!
As always, I'm @papa-pepper and here's the proof:
proof-of-voting-for-others-as-well
Until next time…
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I stopped self voting a while ago, my votes are so small still I'd rather share them with others. Do you have any idea where I can find out how long new accounts are taking to be approved? A few people I'm trying to introduce to it have been waiting like 10 days
@adammillwardart This Post by @timcliff should help you learn to create accounts without waiting. (Self voted for visibility.)
I'll vote some for visibility too! Thanks for the help!
Same here, I invested money so I can upvote myself! But nobody posts 10 times a day so I got upvotes left to like people in my genre.
voted ur comment :)
I do not know, but I'll upvote this comment to help others see it. Maybe one of them has an answer.
Thanks! Hope so, I'm friends with a lot of artists and independent clothing brand owners etc.. A few have already started Steeming, but a few are still waiting ;)
Same here. I figured I could give myself 4 upvotes a dayish, or I could give those votes to minnows with few votes on good posts or to certain people who have supported me to this point. I go through and look at my feed and the main feed regularly and when I find the posts I want to vote on, I vote, give a relevant comment and maybe resteem. If at the end of the day I have any voting power left I will upvote comments or posts from a couple of people who have supported my journey to this point. I have met a nice little group of people, a few through @papa-pepper's posts.
I try to post a few things each day to build my blog content and build my follower base, not worrying about the money at all. The value of my own posts and comments will be determined by others.
That's a good way to do it!
I found that with the people I brought to steemit, some email address they use take longer than others, when I joined I used an icloud email address and it took 3 weeks for me to get in.
my friend used gmail and was in with in 24 hours, another used gmail on the saturday and was live by monday.
there are other ways of getting on steemit, you can by a steemit account using : https://anon.steem.network/ this is the quickes and most simple way. but costs 5 steem to get one. hope this helps :)
Within the last couple of weeks it has taken my friends around 6-8 days, but I have a friend or two still waiting. It may just be a big influx, which will put strain on it. Growing pains means growing so its good news. Also, go to steemnow.com and watch your voting power, I noticed you upvoted his reply but it was below .01. When you are starting out, you have to keep an eye out so that your votes are making a difference!
Thanks! I'll let my friends know there's still hope. I've heard different opinions about voting when your full votes are only worth .01 or .02. I lean towards better to let 50 people a day know "I dig your content" or "Thanks for your comment" than be stingy with votes that are worth so little anyway.
I think with the rule changes to youtube have alot of people coming over and its taking longer because of the flood of new people coming to steemit. Not 100% sure but i think this is maybe the reason.
As a new steemer I found your video informative. Thank you
As a rule, I do not upvote myself. As my upvotes only give a few cents, I don't exactly see a reason why I shouldn't give it out to other people. I think that it would only make sense that way. If you can't give, you can't receive.
Agreed. 100% go ahead and give yourself a vote the same you would anything you come across, if you find value in it, if you are proud etc. People know when they are being ding dings- voting every comment they make etc. Also, many don't realize that they have wasted their voting power and it means nothing and just looks tacky. Use those votes to thank and cheer on authors/artists you want to see more of and you will have a world with interesting ideas available to you!
Right... I think, over the long run, you will get more votes from others when you don't upvote yourself. Occasionally it is necessary, but you are better off doing it only "as needed".
Very well said and a great attitude to have.
I loved that point too!
:) thanks
Humans sure are a bunch of ding dongs lol x)
LOL!
This is really great advice.
Predominantly self voting one self is absolutely unhealthy for the community at large, if everyone did that, the community would get really stagnated and only a couple of people that can significantly upvote themselves would be rewarded.
This will be very discouraging to newbies may actually reduce the number of sign ups.
Let's keep our beautiful community healthy.
Thanks @papa-pepper
Very, very well said. I think that if we look at it that way, we will all try to spread the votes around, regardless of whether we give ourselves some of our own votes too.
Wow that’s really amazing. But don’t be so strict to self voting. People who finds it difficult to blog, can self vote. Just personal opinion
@josteem
I wasn't.
Oh yeah, there is nothing wrong with that.
Yep 👍🏼
Uhm.... Up voting others actually does more for me than up voting myself. Ive gained a few new friends and acquaintances just by upvoting their posts
Asides the curation rewards
It encourages others when you upvote especially newbies... No matter how small your upvote is worth it encourages them
Very good point!
Well said. I agree totally. Selfvoting makes sense and especially for small users.
In fact in the early days, you might be your own audience. However, stake grows like compounding interest, so new users shouldn't be too disappointed.
A very, very good comment. Spot on!
Good morning sir.
Personally I feel that some big fishes are still fighting for sbd with the minnows.
Most receive upvotes from their minnow followers and yet can't take the pain to go through minnows quality posts and share their upvote. Even if it's 1sbd
Yeah, a lot of that happens too. That is one reason I was glad to see that I almost supported 500 different steemians with upvotes in the last month. We can't get them all, but we can try.
Yes sir that's an awesome way to start..
And I'm so happy you're a beacon to other whales 🐳 out there....
A good, good, good video.
The issue of self-voting has perplexed me since I started.
I don't self-vote, but I don't now have any problem with anyone else doing so.
As I have journeyed from minnow to dolphin it becomes a more interesting issue to work through for myself.
When my vote was only a few cents it didn't really matter either way. Now as I grow on the platform and my vote is worth a couple of dollars it is something I think much harder about.
It will always be a moving target but at the moment I have a fairly defined voting 'strategy' :
I vote for people I have brought to the platform - particularly until they have become established enough to look after themselves.
I vote for the people that help me with my radio shows, and for those that participate in the shows, either as guests or winners of the 60 Second Quizzes.
I try to vote as much as I can for a number of charities I support on the platform. Generally the more relevant posts they put out the more I can support them.
I vote as often as I can for people who support me with their votes. I can't keep up with the feed so often I will just hop on to their profile once a week or so and vote up as many of their current posts as possible.
And finally I will go visit any homesteaders and preppers, new and old, I come across and vote on posts that catch my eye with quality content. I particularly try to home in on any posts with only a few cents on them. If I can I try to get them up to a dollar. I'm sure my grandma used to have a saying "Every Good Post Deserves A Dollar" or something like that...
Well summarized and ditto... as I said below if you are using it to help others and give back to the community I don't see a problem at all!
Nice way of doing it. It helps to plan a lot of the time, or at least some general idea of what you are doing! Thanks @pennsif!
I agree what you said in Video... 100% agree... Short comment! No need to make it longer. I Read all their comments...
i love this discussion. upvoted the post.... a bunch of comments...and my own comment. spread the steem JOY! just like broadcasting seeds...in the garden!
Do you macke a good job! I have 24.8 %. Thank you for the Tools steemreports.com
I am as well guilty if this though , I feel I need to support myself if nobody does atleast I will do that for myself , well concerning draining the reward pool , we all cause disadvantage to the system, guess with time we will all have the better understanding of the effect ... Thanks for this observation @papa-pepper
You should support yourself! Your effect on the reward pool is almost nonexistent.
Ayemi ooo!! Lol ... So true , but sometimes when talking about draining the reward pool I hide my face , thanks for this educative interaction , it was helpful
Don't hide your face about that. You've got nothing to do with stuff like that.
Good news there, we need support too in exchange
It's a normal thing papa For self voting here on steemit. That is what I observe since when I've been on steemit. People do vote themselves after they drop there post. My view @papa-pepper
Yup, I did that for over a year. I've just met a lot of minnows lately who are scared to, and they shouldn't be. These days I rarely vote on my own posts, but that is my choice. Others can choose otherwise.
Lol papa, but now I know you don't vote yourself anymore. You are now our Papa here
As a minnow, I upvote myself quite a bit, but @papa-pepper is #2 on my vote list :D.
Still, only 15% of your votes are on yourself and you've almost voted for 150 other steemians this month. You're getting around and building the community up. Also, thank you very much for the support. It truly means a lot to us.
No worries. I like your stuff and you actually inspire me. I like your heart felt videos when you do those. Good stuff, real, and sincere. Wishing you continued success.
I'm still a plankton and i always hope there's a big fish that is feeding me, thanks @papa-pepper that the whale care about us like you, because the income is important so we can feel with our hard work even though it's far from perfect but we will continue to learn to improve our selves and this take time until we can and believe steemit can provide benefits for all humans in this world
Very interesting with this post and also very logic after we read it very super @ papa-pepper
I try to be honest and logical. Thank you!
Thanks sir papa-pepper for the infor GOD bless you i will watch the video though self voting help steemian some time
I'm glad I read this, this is so informative
Thanks as always papa!!!
The way I look at is that you have to love yourself first before you can be loved by others or give love to others. I think it applies to steemit.com pretty well, when you first start no one else is going to vote for you so you should vote for yourself. There is a reason that there is a box to check to vote for yourself on your post. As you go on though your vote, like love, is like a magic penny, the more you give away the more you get.
I like it. That's a nice way of looking at it.
thank you for sharing information with us @papa-pepper, it is really useful to know how far our steemit development is not only selfish but also to give our voice to other steemit.
I really hope all users steemit or community will help each other, including me although my power is still small I will mengupvote posting from others, posts that I think is suitable for upvote or interesting posts and What I like. My opinion is like that @papa-pepper, thanks for sharing post.
Thank you for checking it out!
I think I've voted for myself once and I've never taken a selfie. I just wasn't raised that way. You want to photograph something that's good looking why would you photograph something that life has beaten the Hell out of?
There are some things that are nice to have in the background of a picture of yourself for sure. As for me, I reserve most of my selfies as a size reference for the subject of the photo.
Thanks @papa-pepper for clearing this to me . basically i always had a doubt and confusion about this self voting stuff.. Now it seems easy to me.. And btw my voting power its not enough, how can i increase my voting power so that i can earn with my own voting at least..
When I was a newbie I self voted. I have not for a number of months. I would rather upVote other rather than myself. Thanks @papa-pepper
That is how I do it now. I upvoted all my posts before, but now, especially with only 10 full power votes per day, I prefer to vote for others.
I liked your post, thank you very much for the information you shared. I like it because I like it here, I like your video, you're a good blogger. I support you and put your voice.
@papa-pepper Thank you for this information I didn't know you could use that tool to search like that for your votes. Keep helping the community and us newbies.
It is a good tool!
Yes papa, very good tool
I have to write that one down so I remember it thanks once again
I do that once in a while even in my post i self vote, the reward is just meagre. @papa-pepper thank for standing and supporting the minnows. You're source of inspiration. Steemian like are the reason we still hold on
I try to help and encourage. Be blessed my friend!
When I wake up from sleep. I see this post and I read until finish.
There are a lot of knowledge I found in this post.
This you for sharing do much knowledge for us my friend
I agree with you sir.. as part of this community my willingness to support is my no#1 priority because it is also a way for you to communicate with others and establish good rapport.. I do upvote my post just to gain even .01 cents as my power is not enough to give me high reward.. sometimes people will upvote you back in return as you've upvoted them. Some time it drains my SP. For almost a week as what I notice no longer support is coming from curator and I'm so confused if there is something wrong with my work.. I tried making quality post but still only few people visited my wall and leave some message. It's not all about what we can gain it's more on learning but I guess it's not bad to desire for reward after the sleepless night you're doing making good stuff.. Still never recognize...But the good thing is I learn how to appreciate my work by simply giving a kick of upvote and receiving single comment from anyone is a great privilege at somehow there are people who are still supportive.. and that is @surpassinggoogle .. thanks for sharing your thoughts about this sir.. I will take note on this one for sure.
Yes, @surpassinggoogle is very inspirational and a blessing to our community!
Self voting is really not a bad idea but in cases where someone upvotes his/her comments 100% on a post he/she upvoted with less than 20% that is my issue with iit. Apart from that i support @papa-pepper
Yup, that is an issue. That is not the way to do it at all, in my opinion.
You're a very nice person I see. Indeed there is no rule to have to vote the work of others here. But you always give support to people who are very serious in working in this steemit. Because we are born into a community and steemit builds relationships between people and humans and always gives positive things in the steemit community. Thank you for the great affection for us here. Good luck always for you @papa-pepper.
I barely vote myself, reason is that being a minnow, my VP can be used to vote others before it finally drains out, i always set it at 100%, someone advised me to do that and i've been doing that for a couple of months now. What we expect from the bigger fishes in the community is their mutual support in respect to what we give them as little fishes but we rarely get that. You have opened my eyes, ears to some important things this morning Nigerian time. I love what you do @papa-pepper, keep it on man
I thought I was the only one who has witnessed this self voting, just as @papa-pepper has said, you can vote yourself ten times, but all the same still support other minnows who are joking the platform to, by so doing you're encouraging them and also supporting the community.
That's right!
well your post on this really, help people to under stand the concept of self up voting and because of many of them are following you.
It is normal to vote or support thimself. But it is our choice if you vote your self or not. Thanks for sharing this information sir @papapeper god blessed you always...
I got the dosage that I need for my trip down to Ibadan for the meet-up. Thanks @papa-pepper
Very cool! Have fun my friend!
people should do what they want to do
and not let themselves be shamed into doing other wise.
Amen to that. Whether they bought their Steem Power or Earned it, they invested something. If they upvote theor own content, then they are getting an ROI. That is a good deal for them. Like me, your votes have also supported almost 500 other authors in the past month. That shows that you get around and invest in the community.
Thanks @everittdmickey!
you're welcome.
Just watched on Youtube. Great video, nice to hear your thoughts.
Someone like yourself who gives away a lot in prizes and build community through the contests you run should upvote your stuffas you circulate it back into the community.
Someone who is just spam posting and upvoting their own comments to take as much as they can for personal gain should maybe rethink what they are doing.
And no, you did not bore me. I am actually following with interest this issue as one user is really abusing the system and is garnering a fair bit of attention from a couple of other whales. The fallout will be interesting to watch.
I myself don't upvote, haven't for almost a month, as I prefer to share my limited votes to other minnows who have not many or no votes on their stuff. I choose posts which obviously took a bit of work, are good quality and interesting and vote, comment and re-steem to show them someone has paid attention. Nothing worse than wondering if anyone cares about all the work you have put into a post. My vote might only be worth 1c at the moment, but I think it is more important just to re-assure people their efforts are not just just floating through the system and no-one is appreciating them. There is a great post I resteemed last night, which had none on it when I hit it and now has a few of my followers upvoting it, I hope that it makes a difference to the user.
Anyway, enough of my thoughts, but it is great to hear yours.
Amen to that. While it is permissible many would not consider it to be a good choice.
In the beginning, which was not too long ago, I was self voting and not realizing it. Then I noticed the check box on the bottom of the Post screen. It was checked and I don’t believe I ever checked it. I was voting for myself and did not realize it. I wonder if is comes to the new Steemians as a default and perhaps some are doing, like me, without realizing it.
My personal thoughts were give and it shall be given unto you and also the Bible passage about Steem! That is right Steemit in the Bible!
Php 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. Plus the Golden Rule!
Not that I am anyone to give advice, I did a post about my discovery and I decided to uncheck the box and to vote up other people’s post because it seems to be the right thing to do.
Thanks for the reminder. God bless!
Yeah, I left that box checked for a long time myself, but later went a different way.
I think you make some valid points. I didn't start upvoting until I got my slider, mostly because I just didn't think of it LOL.. But now I vote for myself and everyone else. At the moment I've lost my slider because I had to power down a little, at the same time I set up autovotes because I was getting too short of time trying to be sure to vote from everyone. So my auto votes are happening but I don't know how they're affected by the loss of my slider.
When you get back up to 490 Steem Power, you'll get your slider back.
Nice post, I ilke this post master @papa-pepper
Thanks for sharing i will done up vote I always see your post. And follow you @papa-pepper
Infortant news, thank you
That's very cool thanks for sharing
it's a nice ede may run successfully, @ papa-pepper people are very good.
@papa-pepper, this is very informative and educating about self-voting.
THANKS FOR SHARING
You must write a lot of posts that I like, using the tool above, your 11% of my outward votes, you must have the gift of the gab there somewhere.
Thanks for the checking site, I didn't know it was there.
Wow! I knew you supported me, but I never realized how heavily. Thank you my friend! It is a good tool!
It is surprising what we do without realising it. I will be keeping an eye on it from here on.