I came across this post, some of you might have noticed it as well.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@dollarvigilante/want-to-be-a-steemillionaire-here-are-the-crucial-things-to-do-for-newbies-on-steemit
Wow. Where have we landed in such a short period of time.
Let the facts do the talking.
1. Plain and simple - the title itself is hilarious.
The author is not a steemillionaire yet he claims to teach you how to become one. Yeah, sure.The author himself is a newbie on steemit yet claims to be a pro. And by the way, he reaches out to everyone, calling everyone a newbie.How long does steemit exist? Yeah, we’re all noobs. God forgive us.
2. „The great majority of that success on Steemit has come from decades of work".
Yeah, sure! The one and only reason the author made some bucks is due to the whales. Period.
3. Recommendation No#1: Images.
Wow! The author used an incredible amount of 2 images in his post! Good advice! Obviously the author didn't care much about images at all because he knows he'll make some bucks, with or without images.
4. Formatting:
A massive wall of text scares the reader away? Possibly, yes. Agreed.The author himself has a massive wall of text in between his 2 meager images. Fail. Don’t you agree?
5. „Building your audience“.
Basically not a bad idea. But what happens if you achieved to have 100 followers who love your blog but don’t have enough voting power to make your posts be worth something. Well, at least you can be proud of their „likes“. Wow.
6. "Write something interesting."
There are 50.000 people on steemit with 50.000 different tastes. What a good advice!
7. Consistency.
The author is on steemit for about a week? Yet talks about consistency. This topic is about to promote himself, self-congratulation par exellence.
8. „WHY YOU SHOULD BE ON STEEMIT EVEN IF YOU CAN'T WRITE AND HAVE NO FRIENDS“.
This point is just rude as he implies that users are not able to write good quality stuff and don’t have friends. Wow. He might end up having 0 friends if he continues like that.
9. Conclusion.
The author wouldn’t have made a single penny without being „famous“, without the whale-votes. YOU NEED TO HAVE FRIENDS OR FOLLOWERS WITH VOTING POWER. Period.
I’ve seen so many interesting posts on steemit, about philosophy, life, mathematics, music, art, people who actively promote steemit and they did not get proper attention.
Sad!! Just sad!
He was one lucky guy to get the attention of the whales because he is „famous“. Now he claims to be the source of knowledge. Hm. I’m not sure.And the introduction image with all the money and cig is very inappropriate.
But you decide.
P.S: Let’s see how far this post gets without a single image :) Don’t blame me for being honest and upfront. Honesty matters. For a lifetime.
This is sadly true...
I was very excited about steemit in the beginning and have been helping people on instagram to sign up and get started for a month now. Yet when I posted about it I got some votes: https://steemit.com/steemit/@getssidetracked/the-steemit-community-on-instagram-is-growing
Don't get me wrong, but 100 users manually helped get on steemit later and 620 comments in a month, it feels like dust compared to the 15k facebook page about steemit post or all "famous" celebrities now popping by and instantly growing past you in steempower.
1 month of work and dollarvigilante now has 20x more SP than me in not even a week. This also from someone who probably could buy 50x more and investing without flinching, yet people keep voting on his clickbait-facebook-level titles and posts.
I decided to power down on contribution. I bought 200 Steem myself a month ago and have earned maybe 200 from posts from which most was from one "whale" alone. But the time and users I got here haven't really been worth it compared to others. And I know many are in my situation, seeing already popular people get more popular, and now with the feeds working I unfortunately don't have the power or time to tey and promote myself again as much as I did in the beginning, which ended up being almost for nothing and I'm scared same would happen again and I would have wasted more time.
All this doesn't change my view on steemit the slightest, I still have high hopes for it and think my investment was well worth it. Just the investment in time wasn't as much.
One thing I hate more than anything else tho, what I've noticed happens often here. Is greed. A lot of users the site has helped to not be as greedy by voting - but those who already are stacked and go around saving them votes for maximized curation rewards in self-interest, never upvote people in their own posts comment-sections, and to top it all off only upvote their own posts while maintaining 99%+ voting power... you disgust me.
Hard for me to accept this, but just as you said, sadly it is true, I am from Mexico and like you, I am very excited about Steemit so I decided that I could help Steemit grow in Mexico so I took my iPad, created some nice Slides and installed it in a car that I have working in Uber so that all the passengers could find out about Steemit, published the story here https://steemit.com/steemit/@oumar/first-uber-spreading-the-word-about-steemit
And I don't want to say it was ignored (I do deeply appreciete the ones that showed their support with an upvote and specially the ones who took the time to comment) but after 12 hours despite this being a real life contribution to the growth of Steemit, my post has only 20+ votes :(
your post has no whales. that is the problem and why steemit will never snatch reddit userbase. no whales=no recognition=no user interaction no money for your time.
I know :(
the problem is due to the concentration of steem wealth in the hands of the few.
had steem done an ico this woudn't be happening.
they need to do an airdrop ASAP or someone is going to fork/clone this and do it right.
Main problem is not whales but incentives, the way steem works now is people upvote only thread with many upvote and only popular people.
dan should change incentives so that people actually bother to read the content they like. I have also noticed that people participate less in the discussion in a thread that won't be trending, if people only post in expectation of money it creates very fake environment which will put off a lot of newcomers. Social media is about natural interaction not money hunting.
I'd love to see the upvote buttons removed from feeds. You should have to actually click into the article and scroll to the bottom in order to vote on it. It would also be cool to decide how much power to allocate to your vote so it's not all-or-nothing (as williambanks also mentioned). I also love snowflake's idea of a trial run to try hiding the earning amounts from view.
That's a good idea. It shows you're about more than just making money.
@snowflake The problem is upvotes are default 100% and there is no way to scale it using the current front end on steemit. You have to vote via piston to give a partial power upvote.
Simple solution. Cause the upvote button to pop a popup with 5 stars, give each post a star rating. Each star is 20% of your power instead of 100% upfront all the time.
A 0 star rating would be a vote with 0 power and would cause a drag on earnings.
This requires 0 changes with steem and like 5 lines of code in steemit.
It adds a half second delay to the upvote easiness, but would allow people to give something a lot more granular than just I agree or disagree. You get a lot more say in the message you are sending with your vote and you get a lot more votes in general.
Literally, almost no changes required.
Your suggestion could definetely help but I think the best and easiest way would be to hide $ amount, and votes. Only author can view them. People can guesstimate these with trending ranking, there is no need for other people to know the exact amount earned or who upvoted and how many users did. If they really want to know they can check user's balance and history the next day. Or an alternative would be to reveal posts details a few hours before payout. If I was running the site I would even hide author's usernames on the actual post ( not in the comments) Only content matters nothing else, all other factors negatively influence curators in my opinion, I see no benefits.
dan can even try it for a few days and see how it goes, I guarantee you it will create better curation and atmosphere
Most if not all of the whales know how to make lower power votes using the CLI and do so regularly. This might be a nice feature in the GUI for whales but it does little or nothing to add value for most users so I consider it a low priority, or even a negative if it adds complexity and reduces ease of use. Anyway, there is a prototype of it in github so it will probably be rolled out at some point.
I agree. the distribution and visibility of posts should be reconsidered.
You are not only completely incorrect about the incentives, but the incentives are the opposite of what you state. When voting for something that already has a lot of upvotes (SP), the reward is tiny (an example of this in my case was the makeup tutorial, I think my curation reward on that was 1/10 or less what I might get voting a post with little reward). When whales vote for something that already has a high payout we are doing it despite the incentive not to.
You are right, I made a mistake there. The point I wanted to make which you highlighted is that people upvote posts that are popular even if there is no incentives to do so.
I think this behaviour could self correct by hidding posts information including author.
I think the issue is most people don't understand how the voting works and/or are very bad at the arithmetic so keep voting on everything that they see with a high dollar value. That said if I find something I really like and it has a high value I still vote on it out of principal even though the payout will be miniscule.
https://steemit.com/steem/@arcaneinfo/urgent-breaking-news-the-time-is-now-to-buy
Lets hope not, I like this place.
I guess you aren't aware that the new accounts on Steemit are an exactly an airdrop. Thousands of STEEM are being given out every single day.
I agree, and it would be great if it impacted... anything. I completely believe in the site, but the fact really is that it is only viewed as worthwhile to write to the whales. I like a post that gets comments and try to work to that goal. But 100 upvotes and $3.50 is hard to understand when one vote is seen granting far far more. The rules regarding voting power and curation are not at all clearly laid out for the new users steemit seeks to attract to understand, or even view. I guess I just don't really understand calling that an airdrop to the community when it does nothing to reduce the gap in voting power that exists and creates this confusion. It's an experiment though, I get it. Just thoughts.
It does address the gap, but only when there are many, many more users. Currently there are maybe 20K users (we don't know the exact number). With a million users the voting power in the hands of the wider community will be 50x larger, and the voting power in the hands of the whales will be more or less what it is now, or perhaps less since most whales are slowly selling off.
This is a beta site not only in terms of the software still being early but also in terms of the user base being very small relative to what is really needed for social media to work well. It has only been a month since July 4 when the payouts started and usage started to grow even to its current, relatively small level. Give it time.
The same thing happens with ICOs you would have a different set of rich people buying most of the coins. There is no easy solution to age old problems.
Just like I expected. Not a single shit was given today either.
sounds like you've been following my strategy to a tee - https://steemit.com/steemit/@dogguy/want-to-be-steem-poor-here-are-the-crucial-things-to-do-for-newbies-on-steemit
WOW! @getssidetracked, thank you very much for sharing your thoughts, I'm very thankful!
Steemit is at a stage where notoriety is more valuable than quality content when the opportunity arises. Whales need to reward fame so that the fame sticks around long enough to give us a more stable user base. @dollarvigilante is rallying people using strong language and click-baity, gag-worthy titles because that's what marketing is. Is he an expert? No. Can I see his make-up line in his header photos? Sort of, but I dont doubt for a second HIS make-up tutorial would bring in more viewers than mine. If we don't like it, we don't have to vote for it. The Front Page is dynamic, and the make-up tutorials of yesteryear turn to the thoughtful posts of tomorrow. The best thing to do in the current system is to post counter posts like this, search for decent content and to dream up possible solutions.
Check @rhi-marie's latest post should you feel so inclined, it might have some interesting answers.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@rhi-marie/freeing-minnows-caught-in-the-net-a-proposal-to-propel-quality-content
"HIS make-up tutorial would bring in more viewers than mine" This was hysterical!!!!!!!!!
Thanks! At least SOMEONE laughed. For an accused narcissist, his complexion is rather humble.
I think what we are witnessing is the second phase of Steemit with the herd, the masses deciding what is right and calling out things that are not beneficial for the bulk of users. The removal of rewards from Dollar Vigilante is unrprecedented actually, and it shows the shift that has come. The minnows are responsible for this shift, and the whales followed the minnows' moves. I can't say that I have ever seen this before. If it weren't for a few people calling out the absurdity of the logic of DV's post, I doubt anything of the sort would have happened. This is actually a good thing long term because it ensures that celebrities think through what they are writing.
Of all the things to rebel about.. and you still reach $1.6k in 5 hours?
Perhaps the platform isn't falling apart around you?
Value is subjective.
That was obviously an ironic play on his recommendation about the necessity of images. Nothing else.
While I'm personally enjoying @dollarvigilante's content (I've never known about him before, but very familiar..)
To be fair, he's self-aware that he's getting the moolah because he has been reputable outside of Steemit. Steemillionaire is more symbolic than anything, it's just part of the writing. I really don't see what's wrong with that post. Sure it's a rehash of many Steemit guides already lying around, but perhaps someone with a name can pound it into the heads of his followers?
IMO, he's a straight up honest dude who has been doing his shit for years and years. The fact that he's well known, with full identity shown (part of risk-taking) sort of deserves a higher payout just for that fact alone. The whole post didn't seem condescending to me.. quite the opposite actually.
I'd agree on one thing though - celebs that come in raking all the attention etc - I think they should at least compensate by adding more value into the system by spending more time voting and interacting with the community (like how I personally upvote almost any attempts of readers/followers attempting to communicate with a relatively-nobody like me). I think Steemit is a great channel for creators to create stuff with their consumers.
Upvoted anyway to get the discussion going - appreciate your honesty on the matter. It may be true that attribution to success may be skewed (like how I get all riled up when success gurus don't really know what they're talking about).
I just re-read this point. Did you actually read what he wrote? He was encouraging people to write, regardless of their circumstances.
This is a bit too trollish for me. I'm downvoting.
Would be happy to argue these points.
Hi @blakemiles84! Thank you, happy to discuss. The first sentence in this paragraph pretty much says it all: "If you've never written so much as a blog post and don't have the aptitude for it then you probably will never make a lot of money on Steemit." I don't call that encouraging. Never ever. That's discouraging. We've seen a model making 15k$ just for saying "Hi", I've seen educational essays that didn't get any attention at all. What's the point? Steemit is not only a place for highly educated and eloquent writers. If you're passionate about your topic people will read between the lines and share this passion with you. Additionally: Let's assume you have the best post on steemit, ever. Is it still worth something without the whale votes? Of course not and this paragraph only deals with profit and $$$$. The headline is still rude IMO, but that's still MY opinion. Please respect that, thank you. There will be steemians out there who feel addressed because the headline contains so much negativity. Why not something positive like "Love what you do and you can be successful, that's all that matters!". Sounds better IMO.
'having the aptitude' is important. I suck at painting and drawing. I'm not going to be successful doing anything around that realm. I write instead.
Because that's not how he got to where he is now. You can't choose who comes onto the platform, nor can you choose what others find valuable enough to vote on.
I’ve seen those posts as well. But you know what struck me the most? They had hardly any votes at all! This means those of us who don't have much Steem Power cannot be bothered to vote, yet they expect the whales to do the reading and voting for them.
If I see lots of valuable posts with little payout but hundreds of small votes - then you have a valid point. That would mean that something is wrong indeed. But I don't really see that.
It's funny how we tend to blame others for our misfortunes. Why don't we organize ourselves and prepare a compilation of valuable posts on a daily basis or at least try to help the existing efforts (e.g. this and this)?
This post was evil
HILLARIOUS
and pretty much true!
Good job!
UPVOTE FOR YOU ! heheh.
Thanx @kaylinart! Appreciate it!
Good, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who considered that post a little over the top. Maybe Jeff would do well to tone down his posts a bit. Congrats to him on his success, I'm not jealous, but the way this post reads is pretty condescending, IMHO.
I can't stand that guy!
He got rewarded because he is bringing steemit to his audience, because he has an audience to bring. This is what steemit invested users want, growth.
Right
I'm not happy that he made $15,000 for a test "hello" post - but he does serve a purpose
You speak my mind and I just posted a long comment with my opinion on another blog.
Here it is :
"I do not follow so called trending posts that much and take lots of time to find so many other interesting ones with focus on topics I am interested in , mostly from people who show their "human" side , their skills without bragging how great they are. Their stories say IT all ! Personally, I prefer and like people who bring depth and their passion to this platform. I accidentally found this discussion and think its a very valuable one , so I explored on this man's blog a bit more , who's first post I actually up-voted as well but chose not to follow. I wanted to understand better what you wrote Steve . I agree with you 1000% ! Where is the humble side ? This kind of man turns me off . Look at him "throwing" his dollar bills in your face like nothing else would make you wanna stay on steemit but money. Yes , we are all here to earn little cash , invest in a very promising future for creatives but he seems like a robot to me , soulless . You intimidated me "dollar something " , strange enough you really threw me off for just one second. I made 200 in 2 weeks , more than I ever made in years on Facebook !! I am damn happy with my few little cents & & $ I earned with my stories . I do not want your advice and today I chose not to up vote you anymore , nor waste my time to comment . I am new in the blogging world , even though I have over 15000 followers on various platforms through my music promoter activities in the past . Don't misunderstand , I do respect this mans success and advice for the ones who value it . The picture of my success looks different . Steemit inspired me to write and also read more again even though I might fit into his sarcastic - DO NOT Write about- " how to paint a fence " category . So what ! Who is he to say whats good or not , right or wrong . Some sheeps who need celebrities they can look up to , your " kind of human " might be important for this communities' growth. Thats ok ! So , enjoy among all of us little but cute , colourful fishes and stophhhh the noize !"
@mammasitta Thank you for sharing your thoughts, that's actually what steemit is about! Awesome!
Voila :) I suggest you look at #scam what you find there .
Nailed it! :)
Voting up with all my negligible Steem Power. To the moon. :-)
Reality bites: How I made $0.817 on Steemit within 10 days with 50 posts.
To the moon! Thank you so much @moonguy!
This review made me so much laugh, and got stuck as is so true. As a business owner myself I take advice from millionaires and multimillionaires themselves, people who are where I want to be. I am extremely reluctant to take advises from people who talk but they don't have results. This is just me. Very good read, but written in such an engaging form :)
Hey @margot! Thank you very much for your honest reply, feels good to see I'm not the only one and there are people like you who share the same feeling! This is what the community needs, kudos margot!
As it happens, this guy does have enormous results. You are spreading misinformation.
@sadochismo Alright, so I normally disagree with @dollarvigilante. But in this case I think it was one of his better postings.
I dunno if you missed it or not, but he was doing his post a little lower quality than normal in order to give others some breathing room. So yeah he's making the mistakes, but I think it's an example of what not to do while giving good advice on what to do.
The advice he's giving is good advice. This is one post that will earn what it gets. Quit worrying about being called out as a noobie. None of us have been here a year yet. We're all trying to figure this stuff out.
@williambanks Alright, so, "a little lower quality" for a post that tries to explain the audience how to become a steemillionaire? Low quality advices! You nailed it (incidentally) – that's exactly what happened here. And I explained why these so called "advices" are not good, still my personal view and opinion. But it seems some others shared my view.
@sadochismo Yeah it's not a dichotomy. There isn't really a right or wrong answer. How you feel is how you feel and I don't necessarily disagree with it, just showing a different opinion so you don't shout into an echo chamber. ;)
I view that post as an attempt at personal growth.
This after I had spent a lot of effort going through and offering constructive criticism wherever I could.
Check my comments in his thread though. Then make up your mind.
On his very first post on steemit I called him out and got flagged 3 times by his pro-supporters. They think the kind of posts he does is whats going to bring value into steemit. What I don't understand is why some whales are going all out giving him all the visibility in the world when he clearly is just hyping himself up stealing the hot spot just with his name. I am glad your post made it up here. It's a good thing we have whales like @berniesanders who are not shy of downvoting the big names if they deserve to be downvoted.
Perhaps his name is what brings the hot spot?
Who do you propose he is 'stealing' it from? Theft of any sort is a bold accusation to be making.
Stealing it from anyone who has wrote what he just wrote a hundred time already. How do you even act as if it's ok for someone to post something that have been posted before but never received any recognition for the simple fact that he isnt known? Actually he is stealing someone else spot with his name, could be anyone since obviously his latest article is something that shouldn't even be in the first page for the simple fact that it is common knowledge and has been written a hundred of time. It's like me going around steemit to inspire myself from subjects already written and writing about it , Id be lucky to make it there but he will most likely because he is known. Do you get what I mean? I am not complaining that I am not making it to the top, I am saying he wrote what many others wrote already without recognition , with what he is known for I would expect something more unique to him.
Nice job
Good Post. It is frustrating that someone who can come on here and just rake in the cash like that. But, he does have a large following. I was following him on Facebook before I found steemit. And now I notice he's promoting steemit on every post and posting that on Facebook. Although it's frustrating to see him getting all the whale votes, think how many more regular people are on their way to steemit because he is making that money. His followers will be regular people who will slowly gain wealth like a regular person without a large following.
Thank you thank you!
So good to hear dissenting views. This is a real breath of fresh air to see people bucking the trends and getting rewarded for it.
@berniesanders and other whales are voting for contrarian content and I for one could not be more pleased!
I'm so happy to be able to change my assessment of how whales are behaving. I hope it's not a ploy but an honest assessment of how the platform will be best served in the future.
This isn't a place where you should be thinking to get rich! For goodness sake, that is obviously impossible and to suggest so gives people the impression this is a scam.
So please stop upvoing content that is seemingly positive for the platform when it's actually bad for the platform as well.
Thanks again for the honesty and for those that are rewarding it decently. You are doing the right thing by sticking to your principles.
Thank you so much in return! @doctorstrange! Thank you for this extensive reply, we're on a similar wavelength as it seems :)
Absolutely! I've been trying to get people on board with this mindset for a month. Super stoked to see more like-minded people that are bullish on the platform and just want to have their opinions heard and rewarded as appropriate and in a civil manner.
You have a new "follower"!
It's like I was having a great time at a $10 craps table and then realized I was surrounded by guys putting $1000 on the don't and noisily asking the dealer to raise the table minimum.
haha , good 1
Awesome criticism with so much proof just from how you made this post. Thanks for the great info!
Thank you @nathanbrown!
Got to say you're right... this guy brought some ancaps with him.. that's cool. Half of them seem to try to be making a living marketing themselves as anarchists. It's kind of a joke, really...
This happens over and over again in every industry. People pray on the desperate to gain money, power or sometimes both. I'll show you how to make easy money they say. No different than snake oil salesmen. It's sad when people have no ethics or moral compass. ****UPDATE**** Looks like the post was taken down. Nice work Community!
Good stuff. I don't think the source article is inherently bad. However, maybe some could see it as misleading. Like, "Do these things and ZOMG! ALL THE STEEMS!"
Power corrupts total power corrupts totally. What do we expect to happen when the power name is the foundation of this platform? Many deep down inside love seeing others beneath them and still smile and shake your hand like they care. Balance, people fail to understand in life it must balance back to even no matter what. What goes up must come down!
Agreed, meaningful words! Thank you very much.
You have it completely wrong.
It's not power that corrupts but lack of connection between power and responsibility. If you think a system like Steem could exist without some people having more power than others, then you are going to be very disillusioned. Power to have an impact (but not to tell people what to do) is essential here.
I have it all wrong? I know I have it right I just did not subject anyone, my statement was general not pointing fingers saying someone is wrong or right.
This will give you a better idea.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@arcaneinfo/steemit-is-a-subjective-platform-period-point-blank
It takes skill and a lot of work, not to mention creativity to reach the top. It's not easy but it's doable.
However it's not just about money, it's about uniting people with our platform and to have freedom of expression, which hardly exists on other platforms.
"Want To Be A Steemillionaire? Here Are The Crucial Things To Do For Newbies on Steemit
13 hours ago by dollarvigilante63
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The ONLY TWO images! In a post talking about the importance of images!
Well. I'm glad steemit can tell bullshit when its users see it.
Oh wait... I can see it now:
"I was unfairly censored by jealous steemit users!"
I will facepalm if he goes that route.
This is the problem with completely open things like #steemit. There is no proper guide or initiation like with #StackOverflow. People will use it for all sorts of things, and the ones with the most money who shout the loudest will drown out the attention of other good things with their narcissism. That said, I just registered because I have found more well thought out posts here than on many other sites and I think this model is long overdue!
I believe your right! And #Steemit is a new hybrid of economic gain and social media hence no former rules to apply or lean against. It is a kind of anarchistic experiment involving the most popular tech and it will evolve... Question is to what - but Im in for the ride :-D
I've gotta upvote.
But be more passionate. What would you do if you fell ass backward into $30 thousand? Plus, you already know the benefits of blockchain technology, steemit is a welcome retreat.
Consider the positives. People like me that understand the genius of the immutable database of the site heard it was active.
Granted, last time I heard about the site it was not ready for users, so I probably would've joined eventually. But I'm here now, ready to make cents per post to put toward a tiny reputation for a revolutionary idea.
Agreed, still no reason to be cocky and post an image of yourself with all that money in your hands. That's why I called it "inappropriate". If you're used to have a lot of money, you don't do that.
What I like on Steemit is that the whales vote your post as well as the post you incriminate, it's showing that they are open to the discussion, I don't think they regret to have voted on the OP, they are not schizophrenic either, they just try to show that steemit is not white or black. I've done a couple of parodies and got massively upvoted, that not mean I became more legit with my parody than the post that inspired it. It just means that sometimes you need multiple points of view to get the whole picture. I am still confident in the success of Steemit. It may be not perfect yet but, it's improving quickly.
Not quite all of them.
Come on, most of us know that the guy is an exception, @berniesanders will remain in the history as the first Robin Hood of Steemit.
Just calling what I see. Wasn't necessarily arguing with you, just making a point to say not ALL of them.
Also I'm not sure why I left the "bern"s highlighted.
great post, couldn't have said it better myself
Images are paramount! Or not...
he is a good writer and has a knack for reaching this audience. He makes it look easy. Your points are valid but you have to give him credit for mastering this so quickly.
Everyone on steemit deserves credit, everyone tries to give his or her best.
agreed
No, this is very wrong. The point is not everyone deserves equal credit. Showing up and making an effort is not enough.
he does not get that profit on Steemit of which dreamed)
Let just call it lucky for him, lucky that he already had a name and that he's current engagement is important to steemit and that's the reason why whales upvoted him.
That money is from Venezuela btw. I believe its worth like $40 bucks
I wrote a post about tipping you can read here https://steemit.com/steem/@snowflake/let-s-tip-eachother-to-strenghten-community .With a tipping system, users like @dollarvigilante who earn a lot can give back to the interesting posts that you were referring to, I think it is essential feature to create positive feedback loop
👍nice explain @sadochismo
Great post! Nice that you got some value from writing about these kind of things! :)
Thank you @vorsseli!
Very good POV
Thank you :)
I must say that in case of Jeff (@dollarvigilante) and his article you are simply too biased. Jeff is well known at youtube to one quite large group of people. It makes him kind of celebrity. Celebrities draw attention and yes, they have extra attention which you and I will probably never have. You might not like it but that's how it is. And now to your judgement about what he wrote. Consistency for example. It is not about being on Steemit for a week as you think. It is about consistently stating his "anti-mainstream" view for years on YT&TVs&radios and elsewhere and this is what Jeff is really doing (check it for yourself). I'm not saying your points are totally wrong, many good articles are left unnoticed, true. The reward system should be adjusted, I agree. But hey dude, just try to be fair in your criticism! When the well-known people gets extra $ at Steemit, you can take it as a form of marketing and you'll sleep better then ;-).
If SteemBlubber was real i'd vote you to the Moon!
I have to admit this post made me laugh. As someone who has only been on for just over a week the struggle to make money is real. I like to think of myself as a starving artist. I would like to know how you can get whales to hit you.
I dont get how this social media has the money to payout everyone just to blog and even just voting? Sounds to good to be true no? I just signed up so still dont understand everything ... P.S. what and who are whales???
My reply to this post: https://steemit.com/steemit/@metrox/those-evil-whales-who-eat-tons-of-krill
Nice post @sadochismo
STEEMIT FOLLOW ... JUST A SMALL STEP
https://steemit.com/follow/@foxkoit/steemit-follow-just-a-small-step
I commented on his post, i totally agree with you. That dude abused his popularity, but hey, why he wouldn't ? He is getting 15K per post... Let's downvote him until he provides quality unique and original content on Steemit. By the way i'm the first who flagged his last post.
Flagged as repetitive. In case I'm accused of doing this to take sides, I also flagged the @dollarvigilante post that is the subject of this one. There is just too much circlejerk. What will make Steemit better is writing good posts about interesting things, sharing them, and getting upvotes, not post number 562 saying the same things about Steemit itself (positive or negative).
ok, so why do you upvote this post? https://steemit.com/steem-help/@hisnameisolllie/steemit-the-economic-system-and-where-the-money-comes-from Is that your vision of something "new" ? This would be post number 563 according to your numbers, the same things again and again... but this post curiously has 2.4k within 2 hours because you and dan voted, aha. I get you, live by the sword, die by the sword. But don't stick to your own rules. That's just unbelievable. You just made your own argument worthless after 2 hours.
I had already removed my upvote from that post prior to reading your comment.
Cool, sounds easy. Should be easy to remove your downvote from my post as well. Thank you in advance.
ok, obviously you saw my comment and pulled your vote. Bad conscience? suddenly only 1.4 left. Anyway, have a good day and thx for the convo, enough said.
So repetitive posts will be downvoted per se. Interesting. Do you mind to show me where this post is repetitive? Where's its predecessor? The post is an objective personal opinion about a post which I believe is inappropriate. It has nothing to do with steemit. And many others share the same feelings as you can see. And please let everyone decide which topic to chose, this is not up to you. Or is it?... by the way: check the comments please. The post was obviously interesting, I shared it and I got upvotes.... let people decide what they vote for, this is exactly where censorship starts.
Automatic and every single time? Of course not! But when I look at Trending and see five posts on basically the same topic all getting high rewards then yes it is repetitive and harmful. You are certainly free to post and nothing is being censored, but it won't necessarily be rewarded a lot either. No one has a right to the latter.
Thank you for the quick response. Ok, I see, so you're more worried about the posts getting high rewards than being repetitive. Pretty simple, if my post would have been at 100$ you wouldn't even care, even if it is repetitive. If there are for example 5 posts with a similar topic it's obviously something people want to see and read, otherwise there won't be any votes. Let the market decide, demand and supply. Why is that so hard to accept. I created that post only because I felt it was needed, it was my choice. Please respect it. I didn't even know there was a similar post out there and surprise surprise: Many appreciated it - wit their votes and comments. Do you really think everyone should check if there's something similar out there before you post something? Seriously? Probably a good solution though, otherwise everyone is running danger to get flagged by you 'cause you're annoyed. Come on man. Why should this be harmful? Didn't we have enough posts about recipes for brownies with steemit logos on them? Still they get high rewards... any plans for that? I hope not, leave it to the people. There will be tons of double postings, countless similarities, this is a natural thing, you can't do anything against it. There's no reason to do anything against it. That's what we call evolution. Leave it to the people, the voters, otherwise it's similar to a dictatorship. It's just you, you said it's repetitive, you said it's harmful (don't even know why), so it's only up to 1 single person, to you in this case, to cut down the rewards for more than 280 voters. This is an insult against all the steemians who took time to post a comment, vote for it and follow it. They spent their time to read the post and think about a reply, not all of them but many. You make it worthless within a second. Jesus. That's what I call abuse of power. Prove me wrong. Your stage.
That's all we are doing.
Don't play dumb. You and everyone is well aware that these same topics on Steemit rewards, who gets them, how to get them, etc. have been played and replayed for weeks and months. It is not something you need to go and check.
The problem with this argument is that most of reward didn't come from most of those 280 voters, it came from a relatively few with large influence. Live by the sword, die by the sword. It cuts both ways.
The reward algorithm is designed to produce the largest rewards when the subjective value of a post has consensus, meaning a large number of stake-weighted votes all agree it should be rewarded. I disagree, so there is no a high degree of consensus here, and the rewards are accordingly reduced.
Please post quality content on topics that add new value to Steemit instead of recycling the existing value of Steemit with more discussion of Steemit. I will happily upvote that and perhaps others will as well, bringing you high rewards.
The "circle jerk" is a natural phenomenon in the crypto token life cycle. Bitcoin was the same way, but worse, for the first several years. Every day on Reddit the front page was all articles on why Bitcoin is great and articles about merchants accepting BTC to legitimize it to the mainstream. The short-term incentives with crypto-tokens are such that everyone in the community wants to champion the virtues of the token . This is very natural and I actually think its not as bad on Steem thus far because Steem Power better aligns long-term incentives (so the ST price of the token isn't talked about as much).
While everyone can do their best to not encourage it, my view is that its inevitable and it's not something to worry too much about.
I'm not worried, I'm downvoting (and upvoting non-circlejerk posts). Long-term incentives, as you say.
hahahaha well done rebel! i like it !
Thank you!
Thank you @r4fken, it's my pleasure :)