提議:基本投票力、去中心化圖靈測試的真人社交 A proposal: Basic voting power(BVP), Social community of real people by decentralized Turing test(DTT) (English vision available at below)

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相信有很多新人用steem一陣子後,就受到衝擊:怎麼跟當初說好的不一樣,發文賺錢呢?根據我的自身經驗,發現這在推廣steem上是一大困難點。新人面對複雜的steem系統,不論發文、投票都無法獲得成就,反應速度、介面語言(我是華人),用戶體驗又比不上主流社群網站,往往覺得灰心、放棄。要以免費帳號的基礎,發展到能有效力的點讚SP,太難了。
日前我讀了https://steempeak.com/palnet/@deanliu/distribution 這篇文章,心有所感。經過一番思考,醞釀出這個想法。我認為其實,無條件基本收入(UBI)也不全是人們要的。我相信,其實大多數的人花較多比例的時間在看文章、留言、點讚上,用在寫文章上的時間不多,所以人們更在乎的,是他們的點讚效力voting power(VP),而這,其實也是社群中社交很重大的一部分。前幾天也讀到一篇文章https://steempeak.com/@annepink/gqe9fclmd5,更加深我的想法。此文中作者很開心她的點讚力能顯現出0.01SBD.

這是我想到的解法:基礎投票力。不是無條件的給予,以避免有人透過大量註冊帳號拿基礎投票力而毀壞steem經濟生態。而配套措施就是我下面說的去中心化圖靈測試,通過此測試的人可以獲得基礎投票力。具體能獲得多少投票力,我建議錨定為75~80%VP一次點讚產生0.01元的量(目前大約500SP),可以考慮增設虛擬steem power(SP),隨價格浮動,給通過認證的人。此虛擬SP不能power down, 代理給別人。當然,如果要實施此提案,要多少VP、SP、怎麼錨定可以再討論。因為我們分享同一個獎金池,讓很多新人取得額外的VP分享獎金池,對目前已經花錢買SP的人,會直接減少手上SP的影響力。不過,如果此提案奏效,長期來看可以讓更多人加入steem, steem價格上升,我們都贏了!

去中心化圖靈測試
我的想法是這樣:在每個ID增設一個頁面,自己可以先聲明這ID是不是有真人操作,還是是機器人用、分身帳號,或不用原因,自己不需要基本投票力,然後可能也可以讓眾人在此留言評論供投票者參考。原則上公平起見,即使是真人帳號,開多個分身帳號,還是一人最多只能有一個帳號能有基礎投票力。最重要的是投票的部分,大家可以根據某帳號過去活動歷史,投票選擇該ID是本尊真人帳號,可以獲得基礎投票力,還是機器人、分身帳號,不應該獲得基本投票力。當然,如果有人那麼厲害,能寫通過圖靈測試的機器人,騙過大家拿基礎投票力,我不鼓勵,但也沒話說。細節投票部分,我建議可以用跟VP分開計算的resource credits(RC)計算。就像索取(claim)帳號一樣,做一次圖靈測試投票要花一定量的RC或steem. 然後每張票以目前投票者的SP(或有效SP)加權計算,同意給某ID BVP投票者的SP(或有效SP)加總,減去反對的給某ID BVP投票者的SP(或有效SP)加總,如果大於零,或是一個門檻(表示此用戶不僅是真人,而且是有貢獻的帳戶,不濫發廢文),則可以獲得基礎點讚力。這在每次投票後都做一次結算基礎點讚力的資格。為了保障花錢買steem的投資人權利,可以討論要花多少RC、基礎點讚力資格門檻。我提議1T RC或0.3steem, 然後門檻設為0.

EOS說要搞真人社交,steem不用讓他們專美於前,我們能先他們一步做出來,而且還是去中心化的。Facebook也要發全球幣了,密碼貨幣又多了一個強勁的競爭者。希望我的一些提案可以在HF21裡實現,改善steem, 讓steem再次偉大!歡迎大家參與討論。

PS: @steemchiller, 我覺得你做的steemworld很棒,我有些小建議:希望能有T, G, M, K 數量級表示RC, 不然算這麼多位數很麻煩。還有希望在索取帳號前,有顯示索取帳號一次要多少RC, 並且提供可以一次索取多個帳號。
@steempeak, 希望你們可以提供詞彙表,讓華人提供華語版翻譯,做出華語(繁體、簡體)介面。

特別感謝@htliao, @aaronli 幫忙翻譯
以下是英文翻譯連結: https://steempeak.com/@aaronli/pt53kv
請不吝按讚支持😊

若是有見證人支持我這個提議,通知我,我會投給他/她。

After trying STEEM for a while, it’s common that many newbies would easily become frustrated about the payout of their posts. Why? Isn’t it “Blog. Get Paid.”? According to my own experience, I found out that’s a huge obstacle in promoting STEEM. Many newbies facing the complicated STEEM system, and can’t get a sense of accomplishment when they posts article, comments, or vote. Also the website response time and UI language(I am a Huaren(previously known as Chinese, but actually I'm Taiwanese, not Chinese)) cannot be compared with mainstream social networking sites. So they usually feel frustrated and give up. Earning enough SP started from a free account, to have a vote that shows value(minimal 0.01) is fucking difficult.
Not long ago, I read an article from @deanliu https://steempeak.com/palnet/@deanliu/distribution , then I got some inspiration. After I had some food for thought, I incubated an idea. I thought that actually UBI(Universal Basic Income) is not what all people want. It’s because most people spend more time to read, comment and upvote, rather than writing posts. So, what most people care more about is their voting power(VP), and it’s also an essential element in a community. A few days ago I have read a post from @annepink https://steempeak.com/@annepink/gqe9fclmd5, and it proves my thought. She was very glad that her upvote finally reaches $0.01.

Here is my suggest to solve it: Basic Voting Power (BVP). BVP is not given to anyone with no condition, so as to avoid mass register of accounts destroying the ecology of Steem. A measure of BVP is the Decentralized Turing Test. Users who pass the test can gain the Basic Voting Power. The specific BVP gained is suggested to be the amount which can produce $0.01 by an upvote with 75-80% VP, which is around 500 SP at this moment. Virtual Steem Power which fluctuates with Steem’s price can also be considered and it cannot be Power Down or delegated to anyone. Of course, the proposal related to the virtual VP, SP is always open for discuss. As we all share the same reward pool, the influence of our SP is affected and shared to new users. But for long term, it’s a win-win game as more people will join Steem resulting in the price rising of Steem!

Decentralized Turing Test(DTT)
It is my idea: A page is added to the profile of each ID. Users may declare whether the ID is operated by real person, or a robot, or mini account, or without any reason but states to decline BVP. Everyone can reply and comment as voter’s reference. To be fair, BVP is only given to ONE account of a user, no matter how many account one has. The key procedure is the voting. All users can vote to decide whether the ID is operated by real-person and is qualified for gaining BVP, by the activity history of the account. I don’t recommend you to write a bot for passing the Turing test, but if you succeed to write it, I can’t say anything. For the details of voting, I suggest to spend Resource Credits (RC) or Steem for a DTT Voting. The qualification of BVP is counted by the weight of voter’s SP (or effective SP), the SP(or effective SP) of people who agree minus the SP(or effective SP) of people who disagree to give a certain ID BVP, which is greater than 0, or a threshold (so the user is a real person and contributing to Steem by writing good posts). The quality to gain BVP is computed and judged once after each vote. To protect the rights of Steem investors, the amount of RC to vote and the qualification for BVP is open to discussion. My proposal is 1T RC or 0.3 Steem for one vote, with the threshold sets to 0.

EOS is going to launch a real people’s social platform Voice and Steem needs to catch up for this, and even a decentralized one! Facebook is also going to launch the Global Coin. Competitors are joining the game of Cryptocurrency. I wish the proposal can be implemented in HF21, to improve Steem and make it Great again! I am looking forward to seeing your opinions. Feel free to participate in discussion!

PS: @steemchiller I love your steemworld, and I have some suggestion: hope you can add magnitude like T, G, M, K to show the amount of RC so it can be better then to count the number of digits. And I hope it can show how much RC it needs to claim a account, and enable that to claim multiple accounts at once if one have enough RC or steem.
@steempeak, I hope you can provide the glossary, then we Huarens can translate it and submit the corresponding glossary in Mandarin, so you can make a Mandarin(traditional and simplified) interface easier.

Special thanks to @htliao, @aaronli for help me with the translation.
The address of there translation: https://steempeak.com/@aaronli/pt53kv
Also upvote them if you like it😊

If any one is a witness and promote my suggestion, please contact me, I will vote for him/her.

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Reason: Shitty. Shitty idea. Shitty formatting. Shitty bidbots. Shitty idea to present your opinion, then spend money to disguise said shitty opinion as 'popular opinion' by spending money and conveniently placing shitty opinion at the top of the "Trending Page" instead of the "Promoted" page, where it belongs.

No downvote for you today, sir. It's nothing personal. It's just shit. Shit in the purest of forms. The shittiest, of the shit.

Have a shit day!

I've flagged for disagreement on rewards.

Dear OP your idea is okay, your post is okay, but it is overvalued in my opinion.

I put the comment here for visibility rather than upvoting my own comment.

Say a content producer churns out 260 pieces in a year, working Monday to Friday.

Content producers ask for donations these days.

Someone sends them $100. Okay, fine, but now that money is gone.

If someone were to come here TODAY and spend approx. $100 on STEEM, allowing the content consumer to give the content producer a vote worth a penny each day(approx. 250 STEEM), the content producer earns $2.60 per year before deductions, from each consumer who spends $100.

If the content producer had 10000 followers willing to "donate" $100, that's a million, down the drain.

The content consumer will be asked to donate again, and might spend another $100. A few years later, another $100.

If the content producer had 10000 followers willing to buy enough STEEM for a vote worth a penny, that amounts to $26000 annually before deductions to the content producer. The content consumer does not need to spend another $100 to support that creator the next year. The 10000 followers willing to spend $100 can also support nine other content producers with that same initial investment of $100. 10 content producers, 10000 followers spending $100 each, that's $260000 annually.

Spend $100 to be able to donate $26 annually, for life. That is a great deal if supporting content producers is something you do with your money. The consumer also gets a return on that $100! The deal of the century, if supporting content producers is something you do with your money.

Nowhere in the post above do I see 10000 people purchasing 2.5 million STEEM. Do I need to explain what happens to the numbers when one creates high demand for STEEM? Things like the fact, as the value of STEEM rises, that vote that was once worth a penny also rises, without the need to spend or "donate" more money.

In the post above, I see a bloody handout and infrastructure that COSTS money. That's all. It's not even written by someone who realizes they're currently working in the entertainment industry.

Factor in everything I said here:
https://steemit.com/steem/@nonameslefttouse/how-much-have-you-spent-on-entertainment-in-your-lifetime
and here:
https://steemit.com/steem/@nonameslefttouse/curators-hello-where-the-hell-are-you

So yeah, the idea in the OP is shit, and I could keep rattling off words, but I think I'll leave it at that for now. Sorry if this ramble doesn't make sense but I only had a couple of minutes to spit out words and ideas that don't stink up the joint.

I don't think voting for oneself is a good behavior.
Why do you think it's a shitty idea? Please explain. Just because you think let new or people with low SP get BVP would reduce your profit? I hope you can think further, this would draw more people to steem, then the steem price would raise, finally, we all can earn!
In promoted page, there are some just for advertising, and people often not interested in it. So it would be more visible that my opinion got in trending page.

I don't think voting for oneself is a good behavior.

I was hoping you'd say that.

There's my 29 cents worth of self voting behavior. Look up...

Look way up!

There's your $363.95 worth of SELF VOTING.

Your idea of a penny each would mean, in order for someone to compete with your obsessive amount of SELF VOTING, that would require 36396 votes. Most Youtube videos don't even get that many likes.

But thanks for pointing out the fact you don't approve of what you're doing. I kinda set you up for it, because I've been here before, a couple times, and it's fun.

Wow, I was trapped. I've never thought that before. But how would you think other good mean to promote my idea? As I told, it would be more visible in trending page then in the promoted page. Plus, using bidbot means I paid out 25% profit to them.

People have been proposing new ideas here since its inception. Just because you were able to place it on the front page does not mean it's a good idea. An organic approach would have given you accurate feedback. People pass it on, it gains momentum, because people thought it would work, naturally. Unfortunately, you self voting fiends up here on the trending page with your paid votes stall what is known as progress. I could post a picture of my ass, offer my opinion and say it's a nice ass, boost it up above your opinion, and your opinion will fall to the wayside because people will want to see my ass.

Something like that.

I would say this kind of though is too naive. Good things needs promotion too. Or why people advertise their product/service? As your thought, they should just make great products/service, no needs advertisement, then they would simply got famous. That's not how this society works.

Advertising serves one purpose. It exists to manipulate minds into thinking a product or idea is something they need. Why did you include fear tactics in your writing? Why is there a sense of joy and relief hidden within the mix? Why do those portions overshadow the actual idea, which is only a few sentences and sounds like you thought of it while taking a shit? Because you're trying to manipulate people.

So it would be more visible that my opinion got in trending page.

Do we shit with the bathroom door open or closed? Why must we all see you shit?

Because I don't think it's shit. I wonder if you read my post.

Yes. I read that shit.

Ok. Thanks for taking your time for that. Shame that you don't like it and totally disagree with me.

For the most part, this is a content production platform. You seem to think that is a direct competitor with a social media network, but the two go hand in hand. The social media networks are nothing without people sharing links from content production platforms like what we find on the STEEM blockchain.

I could rip what you're talking about apart, piece by piece, but I don't have the time, and I apologize for that.

By the way, feel free to 1% downvote me to show your disagreement. I'm open to nonmalicious downvotes.

I chose to speak with words today. Not buttons. I've also been watching you. scary music I saw here and in the past how you react to downvotes. I thought awarding you with shit would at least place you into a state of joy before reacting.

Then you should know I do nothing to nonmalicious downvotes(if my memory is right). I'm open to discussion and different opinions.
Shame that you could only do that, trying to humiliate others, but to debate/discuss with me about my idea. Maybe I overestimate your intelligence to understand this. If so, my fault, sorry for that.

The intention was humor. It's a good thing. The one here who should feel humiliated, is me, for doing that, instead of putting on my I'm perfect mask and acting like a 'normal' human. I did spend time discussing things with you though. Unfortunately, I was put into the position to respond, while you directed the conversation towards irrelevant points. That's okay though. We're best friends now.

hitty. Shitty idea. Shitty formatting. Shitty bidbots. Shitty idea to present your opinion, then spend money to disguise said shitty opinion as 'popular opinion' by spending money and conveniently placing shitty opi

Cool! A parrot!

And your teaching is leading him to a wrong way😆

That was also known as humor. Intended to be a good thing.

Flagging me is a great way to make friends :) I am just adjusting rewards to give others a better share, but my few cents will not make much difference. Don't you think your post is a little over-valued? Is it really the best on Steem? Get some perspective if you want to stick around.

Same to you.
If my proposal fulfilled, I think there would be a more balanced rewards for people on Steem.
I don't think so. My policy is an eye for an eye.

Whatever. I can absorb your flags and mine do you little harm. We have freedom here. I generally use it to make friends and support those who need it. You obviously do not need votes from anyone except bots.

Thanks for the post! I like the way you put Chinese and English together. It really helped me to understand your ideas, since my Chinese is pretty poor.

I'm new to Steemit, and I've also noticed that it's so hard to get the "power" to be written and recognized.... My way to deal with it is just to care less about how much money I can make, but to care more about how much I like writing itself. But, like what you said, making some adjustments to the system could be help ful. :)

谢谢你的建议!

I like the idea but I think you hit the nail on the head with SteemIt showing only two decimal points. It sucks to vote and see no effect so why not have SteemIt show 3 decimal points instead of 2? It’s an easy fix(Partiko already does it) and it would greatly lower the required BVP for a vote to show.

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Actually I use steempeak when on my computer and it shows three decimal points too. It's a nice front end website, I would recommend you to give it a try😊

I’m always up for a new Steem toy! Thanks for the recommendation I’ll definitely be checking SteamPeak out 😊

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為何你那麼吸引flager😂

因為Steem有一個獎金池,他們認為我用買讚拿到高獎勵、排入trending post, 會排斥到別人PO文的獎勵、注意力. Downvote是一個平衡,降低我這篇PO文的價值。但是他們不懂的是,steem系統本來就是設計可以這樣子,人們可以買steem來增加自己的聲量,推廣自己想推廣的議題、獎勵自己喜歡的作者,這是steem的需求點。去掉這需求,反而會讓steem價格下降,對眾多使用steem的人都不利。沒辦法,已經跟他們講過了,講不聽,算了。反正flag我的我就flag回去,跟上篇比,減少了不少這種情形(其實有點有趣😆)。不過聲望比我高的人我flag回去無法降他們聲望,有點可惜。而聲望比我低的,反而只有我能降他們聲望😊

踩的人心理真黑暗,给你点赞支持

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感謝😊

透過大量註冊帳號拿基礎投票力而毀壞steem經濟生態

投票力是和持有的SP成正比的
透过大量注册账户拿基础投票力进而毁坏STEEM的经济生态,这几乎是不可能的。

个人意见仅供参考。

防範未然,怕產生公有地悲劇。BVP相當於要給每個真人本尊帳號多500SP, 而現行SP有199,418,810. 如果給400000人BVP, 那現行的投票力就相當於稀釋一半。而且順便發展真人社交也不錯啊

现在注册账户要么消耗RC,要么消耗STEEM
所以注册出来的账户点赞价值几乎为零
STEEM官方注册的账户一般会代理15 SP(wherein, partiko等也会代理一些给新用户),相对而言也点不出来1厘钱,并且在账户成长到一定程度后会收回。

如果新人(真人)进来,给他们等效500SP的点赞力度(你说的BVP),到是不错的想法,可以吸引新用户又可以避免被机器人薅羊毛

但是问题是BVP这个钱谁来出?😀
BVP应用之前的存量客户怎么办?(假设我昨天注册的,但是今天实施BVP)
BVP的应用相当于稀释了老用户(大户)的利益,老用户会支持嘛?

提案最终是由SP大户(成百上千W SP)来决定是否实施的,所以尽管也许对整个系统有益,但是动了大户的奶酪,就难啦。

随便啰嗦两句,见笑啦。

由整個系統自動生出虛擬SP給通過測試的用戶。
之前已存的用戶沒有被排除啊。所有的ID都可以接受投票,通過的人可以拿BVP. 而且至少也要註冊一段時間,才好讓眾人依此ID的行為判斷是不是真人本尊帳號,該拿BVP. 不然就是真的認識剛註冊的新人,願意投票給與BVP.
沒錯,這會對老用戶造成衝擊,所以這就是我那些可供調整的門檻,決定權也是要再討論決定的原因。例如BVP的量,覺得太多可以設定為約等於250、100SP的效力或更低。然後還有一推投票參數都是可以討論,例如設個投票一次要10T、100T RC,更高的steem 之類,通過門檻要加總結算10000SP的人投票通過等等,大戶、老用戶還是具有更大的決定權。這樣可以調整管控通過投票拿BVP的人。我相信有遠見的大戶,對於整個系統有益的話,還是能好好考慮這項提議。也可以剛實施時先把這些門檻設高一點,慢慢實驗看效果,再逐步下調。
不會,你的意見很棒,是目前很少認真討論的😅

話說你一開始說"透过大量注册账户拿基础投票力进而毁坏STEEM的经济生态,这几乎是不可能的。"下面留言卻又說可能稀釋老/大用戶利益,矛盾了……

并不矛盾啊

以下内容指STEEM当前的状况

透过大量注册账户拿基础投票力进而毁坏STEEM的经济生态,这几乎是不可能的

以下内容指实施了你提议的BVP后的状况

BVP的应用相当于稀释了老用户(大户)的利益

😀

啊,誤會了。我以為你說得的基礎投票力(basic voting power)指的就是我提議的BVP, 不是透過Steemit註冊時代理的一些SP.

Thanks for the input about BVP. Unlike some. I appreciate your thoughts and the way you present them.

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I think that improving the user interphase and adding more game-like elements to the platform could make steem the unchallenged leader on Crypto social media.

I like your basic SP proposal, but we should turn the test into a game that produces the same results (i.e. proving that an user is not a bot). People uses Facebook because it let's you to communicate and also let's you have fun while on the site. We add on top of that the possibility of making some money and there should be no reason for steem missing the chance to become the next biggest success on social media market.

我喜欢您用英语和普通话写你的文章。这样我一边练习中文一边讨论尤其的话题。
祝好。

Yeah. They can both work😊
"这样我一边练习中文一边讨论尤其的话题。" I guess you mean: So I can practice Mandarin and such topics at the some time. Then in Mandarin it should be 這樣我可以一邊練習中文一邊討論這類話題。

非常感谢您,您帮助我发现我写错了的哪里。😅
I have a long way to go before I can write properly in Chinese, I really appreciate your corrections and feedback... I wanted to communicate that I can simultaneously practice Chinese while at the same time discussing interesting topics on your posts.

Thanks for the post.

How do you set tags in a comment?

WOW..Thanks For This...

你都看我文章受啟發了,我得花時間看一下再來給回應....

畢竟,你每篇都上首頁啊~~~ XD

I totally agree with you. Thank you for this valuable post

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Hi~🌺
谢谢你看到我的文章...😜
我只是发现点赞力多了一点小感受而已...

翰神想法全读完了...虽然不是很懂意思...😅支持你喔👍

我是那个花时间看文章留言点赞比写文章多的人...😂

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簡單來說,就是給予真人的唯一帳號基礎虛擬SP, 讓新人能一開始點讚就有效力,更能促進新人繼續用steem.

噢...这意思跟我理解有点接上了...你的这想法超级棒...👍好给力啊...👋

希望能成实现...👏😎

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你模样真...😎😁😜

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Vote is not reliable. There're always full of cheatings.

Perhaps. But better then none. And that's why I bring up the notion of Decentralized Turing Test(DTT). There can be many derivation from it.
華人幹嘛不用中文😑 我還以為你是外國人。

hallo John
Dein Beitrag gefällt mir sehr gut.
Aber mit Zahlungen in Höhe von 186 SBD und 324 STEEM ist er viel zu hoch bewertet.
Deshalb ziehe ich meinen Anteil von $0.07 von Deinem Erlöß wieder ab.
Bitte unterlasse solche hohen Zahlungen, Du schadest der Community und auch Steem.

你好,约翰
我非常喜欢你的帖子。
但是,由于支付了186 SBD和324 STEEM,他的评价太高了。
因此,我再次从您的收益中提取0.07美元的份额。
请不要这么高的付款,你伤害社区和Steem。

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Ich wünsche Dir noch einen schönen Tag

祝你今天愉快

Great!

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大腿你好!

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別叫我大腿啊。我只是個普通人。

几乎篇篇上热门,你不但胸大,腿也大!

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我是男的,胸大幹嘛😑

至少你的胸比我的大…

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哗!好高的收入,文章写得很好!
!shop

謝謝😊

what is mean sir

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Please wait for the full English translaton finished if you don't understand mandarin or the quality of mechine translation sucks.

haha okay sir,but u always number one post haha

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English translation finished😊

Some side your are ritht , and some side you are wrong , and some spatch of your , i raly lokrd it , but i rally liked your post

I can't understand some of your spelling well😅

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hitty. Shitty idea. Shitty formatting. Shitty bidbots. Shitty idea to present your opinion, then spend money to disguise said shitty opinion as 'popular opinion' by spending money and conveniently placing shitty opi

Flagged for bid bot abuse @steemflagrewards in case others submit it first and to get some reward😄 Actually I don't think I abuse.

You reported your own post? Clearly you must think your level of bid-bot use to be abusive, so I'll pitch in with my own downvote.

You can get better results by asking each bid-bot to remove their upvote of your post? I don't know that they will give you a refund, but if your post is abuse (by your own report) then I'm sure you won't mind having their votes removed without a refund.

No, I don't think so. I did that because if it passes, then I can get the reward in case others flag me first. I heard that if a flag been approved, people can get reward from that.
Wrong again. Of course I do care about the money. I'm not that rich.

Denied. I don’t see anything wrong with this article.

We can flag you for wasting our time if you would prefer.

On the second thought, you could have gotten a translator if you planned on sending this to trending.

We can flag you for wasting our time if you would prefer.

!dramatoken

I would say it is over-'promoted'. Hard to say it is the most deserving post on Steem right now.

Abuse is a matter of opinion and I flagged it anyway. He then retaliated on a few of mine, but whatever...


You're upping the drama to new levels! Have a DRAMA.

To view or trade DRAMA go to steem-engine.com.

That part I'm waiting for my friend to translate. I've got it.
I don't agree you on "On the second thought, you could have gotten a translator if you planned on sending this to trending."
A pure Mandarin article shouldn't be a trending post? Do you mean that you're a racist and you discriminate Huaren?

These people do not like mandarines.

They love tacos.

I have no idea about that😆

Fuck you and your race card.

Did it ever occur to you that I’m 華人myself and I think your bs is pretty lame.

If you want to play this flag game, we can easily flag this for bid bot abuse.

!dramatoken

Sorry, you don't have enough DRAMA.
You need 9.00000 DRAMA more for a chance to make it happen.
To view or trade DRAMA go to steem-engine.com.

你說你也是華人?如果把這篇真的通過被檢舉為濫用點讚機器人,那我就可以拿獎金了😊我是第一個舉報的。