Yo. 3Speak doesn’t use 3Speak community to post. It sends ppl to other communities to post. It also the only platform on hive that rewards based on traffic (which is actually valuable) . 200 usd pending rewards is because ppl don’t post in 3Speak community and aren’t encouraged to. 3Speak is the personally paid for by urs truly video infra for all hive communities.
We have been building an updated platform for 4 years. Which is actually finished now (finally).
Life on hive is a bitch when u pay 4k per month for 7yeas straight and don’t have funding from the dhf and then get comments like this. Maybe u fancy investing in the video infrastructure urself or even helping fund the communal storage that we pay for personally. I can’t take ur comment seriously at all until U personally start paying into the video infra like we have been for 7 years. Otherwise, I’d prefer u reach out privately to offer to help so ur criticisms at least earn some legitimacy before u make them on chain with almost zero knowledge of the actual situation with the video infrastructure we provide for free to this community at great personal cost each month
Appreciate what u do here acid, but this comment Is WILDLY out of touch. Pls use DMs better and be more self informed in future
I'm just typing what I'm seeing.
You're correct about the community not forcing people to post on there, so I stand corrected in that regard, there's probably a lot more posts uploaded to 3speak than the community. The 3 videos I checked the last 24 hours didn't work, and generally spk network has taken a lot of time to get created and seems overly complicated - and that one has received funding afaik.
I'm just a bit tired of hearing "downvotes are stifling innovation" when there's barely any being used aside from on a few farmers here and there, overrewarded posts and malicious actors who attempt to use the community for their own gain.
No need to get overly defensive like this every time 3speak is mentioned mate.
Obvs not. Because u don’t see the 350k + that we have paid to process and pay for ur communities Videos for free. I’d say it’s about time other whales on hive stepped up to cover some of these costs and then maybe there will be adequate resources left over to improve the interfaces.
We currently have a bug that has prevented videos from being played. Been as it’s the weekend, I think we will fully resolve it by Monday.
SPK network has been built by various developers, maybe I should ask them why it’s overly complicated. One in particular is asking for a 300k fee which i see as a ransom for completion. Lovely person. I’m sure it will get finished tho. But let’s see
Regards to down votes. They have definitely driven most valueabke creators off the platform and will continue to do so. Hive is no longer a blogging platform and it hasn’t been such for years now. While I don’t think I are personally culpable for it, there are other characters on Chain that seem to make t their personal mission to remove anyone with traffic via downvotes. There are literally none left here anymore. No one with traffic anyway.
I’m not defensive. But u will understand that it is better that u Just offer some resources before u comment on open source public projects that are funded by private people voluntarily out of their own pockets to help the community have an additional way to create content. We really don’t have to be doing this for u. Especially with comments like that from whales like u. I’d have expected a dm or an offer to help maybe from u??
3speak was just an example, i barely wrote more than a paragraph about what I'm seeing wrong with it and it's lack of evolution/innovation. Sorry you're having issues funding it and about the spk situation, that sucks.
It's just one of the things I noticed recently, which you confirmed has a bug/issue so clearly that was it, I'm not out here trying to shit on it or having some ulterior motives as if it's going to affect it just because it's out in a public place. I understand things may be tough, I've spent way more than I should on my own projects and I can openly say a lot of stuff is shit there too and development is slow, expensive and I some times wonder if someone's getting paid to sabotage/delay it. But when registered users ask me "WHEN GAME", "WHEN LAUNCH", "LOL THIS IS A RUGPULL" or "THERE'S PROBABLY NO GAME", I don't go all aggro on them and tell them they should be the ones funding it or not to say things in public and keep it on the downlow.
Please re-read carefully what it is you're saying, this isn't the first time I read you telling people not to say things in public and to keep it in dm's when it isn't even that bad of a comment or argument (like taraz' question about what spendhbd is doing). Kinda weird considering 3speak stands for free speech.
Who are you referring to that's gotten downvoted for having an influence outside? I mentioned this example in the post on purpose cause all I've seen have been quite literal leeches feeding off of xeldal&trail autovotes for years while providing nothing of value to hive, if you think it was wrong to lower the rewards a bit on those, I don't know why we have downvote mana in the first place. Although I'm guessing you're referring to finallycrypto or whatever her name was that got chased off by bernie and no one wanted to counter the downvotes cause she instantly went on the attack.
U can say what u want publicly for sure. Just looks strange being in such an u influential postion on the chain while being critical and not offering to provide resources to a project that is open source, is a public utility here for all users and is paid for at great personal expense by ppl trying their best, from their own pockets.
Why don’t u write me about the videos not playing for example before commenting? If u see they aren’t playing, just dm me and I’ll let u know the status of the bug if im aware of it. That way ur onchain comment would have been very different.
Regards to DV’s and creators on the platform, I’m referring to almost every major creator. Almost all were downvoted until they left. They are all now gone from hive which is supposed to be a content creation blockchain.
There are no big creators on hive. That’s our fault collectively, and abusive, unecessary downvotes are a huge part of this problem.
Regards to the situation where ppl float the idea of DVs for content that is rewarding ppl for spending hbd, yes. If our own downvotes happy whales decide to start downvoting content that is rewarding ppl for buying hbd and pumping money into the ecosystem system while hive pays out a fraction of those inflows as a reward to the user, I would consider this a hugely bearish thing for hive and I think it would essentially be a disaster. There is a growing hbd economy on hive due to this initiative and hundreds of onboarded businesses all over the world. HBD is second to none in terms of stable coins and a coupe whales doing a DV campaign might be interpreted as an attack on that economy and on hive itself, as the result would be a huge down sizing of the hbd economy.
I'm spending most of what I earn here on my own project, I assumed 3spk gets decent rewards even at these prices being a top witness and all.
This overly defensive nature comes off weird, I'm sure you can understand that. Me mentioning a project in a one off comment partially is not going to damage your project's reputation. I admitted I was wrong about it not working or being underused and the comment I replied to was barely on topic to the post so I didn't vote it much either if you're concerned about visibility.
Either way, there's more influencers we can bring on chain and I know you and others have managed to do so and some are still here posting, even though they keep it a secret because of what bitcoin maxis would say or because of our low standing marketcap. The only examples of downvotes chasing away legitimate influencers I can think of is finallycrypto and Davidpakman, which I tried to counter for a while and received downvotes in exchange, etc.
It'd be better to focus our attention as to how we can prevent such issues in the future or re-evaluate how downvote mana works instead of whatever this was.
I think it’s weird for a whale to criticize an open source project that is providing a public service to all and is funded from the pockets of others without first asking to contribute in someway.
I do believe we have an issue with groups of people unfairly downvoting ppl. While downvoting overall is a positive to give to prevent abuse, there are plenty of people abusing their downvotes and I have heard of many legitimate creators leaving hive because of having been downvoted. The fact that hive doesn’t have any content creators left should be clear evidence that this issue is part of the problem. I also advise several legitimate smaller fish who are doing incredible work spreading hive to post from anon alt accounts due to them being downvoted. It’s a total joke.
For me the downvote issue will have consequences for those abusing it when they don’t get included in legit large LII token drops and other things. The behavior is onchain forever and those who abuse it are quite widely known already
Yeah most people I know that create content daily are no more here. Hive price value plays a role but yeah it also stems from the dvs. Sometimes it feels some set of people are targeted too. Like some people just vote out of spite rather than abuse. Even those that vote with good intentions don’t state that leading to some newbies not understanding the concept.
Also how do people dv someone who has been on the chain for years without explaining. @starkerz you’ve made a good point about dv. Maybe we could do another interview like the last one and talk more about this.