"Ambulances and paramedics are all really busy right now; it's flu shot season."
That statement stuck in my head for many years after I heard it explained by an ambulance driver that I was acquainted with. He said that a lot of elderly people think that they have to get a flu shot in the fall, but that during that time of the year, the number of fatalities that emergency services respond to involving the elderly increased, and many of the calls had one thing in common: the elderly patients had recently received a flu shot from their doctors. While the anecdote proved nothing in reality, his mention and assessment of the coincidences was noted by me that day, and his term 'flu shot season' stayed with me.
Are Vaccines Dangerous?
The most innocent search online for an answer to the question about vaccine safety will invariably lead to page after page of arguments between some of the most vicious inhabitants of the internet, and passions run high as both sides of the debate concerning the safety of vaccinations show their common interest in establishing the truth of the matter, while never being able to agree on what that truth is. Without the internet though, accurate or unbiased information seems to be hard to find on the topic. Or is it?
I don't remember a thing about it-- I must have pushed the memory away, but there is a scar on my arm that I'm told was caused by the polio shot that I'd received long ago. Are vaccines dangerous? I want to ask, what kind of needle would leave a scar like that, still visible over fifty years later?
The people who gave me that scar did it with the best of intentions, and I don't blame them for putting me through such trauma as a baby with no authority in the matter at the time.
Back to the Internet
Looking at the arguments on the internet concerning vaccinations, it becomes apparent that the discussion is often being guided towards things like autism, and other neurological concerns around the scheduling of the shots on children, with one side of the argument presenting facts and examples of the countless injuries from vaccines, while the other side of the issue presents only the prescribed 'peer reviewed' versions of the industry's product, as if they were actually employed by the gargantuan pharmaceutical corporations which would benefit from having control over the subject of vaccines. it's always the same marketing pitch, as if they all use the same script to sell the product.
The so-called science that was being touted by the proponents of vaccinations; was their information written by paid scientists-- paid to write something positive about the product? If I were a pharmaceutical giant, that's how I would do it. 'You want to get paid? Write something that we like.' That seems to be the standard in any marketing strategy, very simple to understand, especially useful with products which are completely unnecessary for survival. History will show that somehow humanity has survived for a long time without jamming toxic needles into themselves, and it shows some other interesting things as well.
Do They Work At All?
As the online argument is guided and managed along the lines of safety, one thing that is often discouraged in the discussions is the matter of efficiency: do vaccines even work? Here's where the art of changing the subject becomes employed by those who are trying to sell this stuff, the evidence showing that vaccines do what they're supposed to do is missing, while the evidence that they don't work is almost common knowledge, with yearly flu shots, for example, claiming and showing less benefit than anyone had hoped, year after year. They don't work, and we know it. But what about all of the other shots? Have you ever known anyone with diphtheria? Can we thank modern science for the lack of such diseases? Not so fast.
The diphtheria vaccination was introduced in the 1920's, but by that time the number of fatalities from diphtheria had plunged down to practically nothing, along with many other diseases. By the time vaccines came along, the statistics show that the problem was already gone. The measles vaccine was introduced in 1968, but by then it too had virtually disappeared from the graphs. Here's a page from a site called Dissolving Illusions which shows the graphs and the history of the diseases compared to the history of the shots. Very telling, graphic images: http://www.dissolvingillusions.com/graphs/
Where Did The Diseases Go?
It's not uncommon to hear the story of how 20th century pharmaceutical medicine eradicated many of the diseases which were common in previous centuries, and even though the statistics show otherwise, modern medicine often takes credit for the general lack of diseases like diphtheria or rubella in western societies. The graphs showing the decline of all of the famous diseases should put forth a new question then: what caused their decline before the vaccinations were even introduced?
Some daring theories suggest that things like hygiene and sanitation became a concern at some point, and science would also dare suggest that just by introducing things like indoor plumbing and a general sense of cleanliness would have led to a healthier environment for humans, and that the disease had no breeding grounds anymore. Such dis-ease was obviously replaced with other things which take away our ease as humans, but the needles get no credit for the virtual disappearance of the diseases that they are meant to control.
Should We All Get Our Shots Then, Or Not?
I believe that the idea of scheduled vaccinations will become obsolete, as more people question the need for the shots, and now with the internet handy, it's possible to look at data and statistics which show the true history of what vaccinations really are: a business. I don't know what's in the needle, hardly anyone really does know-- and the product allegedly has warning labels telling of the risks, so it becomes a matter of choice-- or should be, until it is understood, if a person want's to give their baby a scar like mine or much worse-- according to the label, much worse than my scar. I won't do that to myself or anyone else, I will do no harm.
This article intends only to show the history of the diseases, and their dramatic decline before vaccinations were invented, I found it interesting that this is often overlooked, and it seems important. My parents didn't think that they were harming me when they hired the doc to hook up that puncturing device and let me have the polio shot, all of my friends had the scar, and it's just the way it was. It doesn't have to stay in our cultural logic though, we know better and we know more every day as humans. I won't be getting any more shots.
thanks as always for reading along, the above link is presented here for the graphs that are shown on that website for reference, I have no affiliation with the site, but I like their graphs.
The idea that vaccines are not just dangerous, but that they don't work at all, is like the next step for a lot of people.
Great to see you saying so on Steemit!
http://www.frot.co.nz/design/health/vaccination/
It's overlooked while all the fighting is going on, and the stuff keeps getting peddled-- amazing. Thanks for commenting, I just wanted to point it out, steemit seems pretty safe, I'll post a little history!
I had today a bozo which didn't get the clue. He was talking about fake news and how Snopes of all made him see the light yet he was pressing that I have the burden of proof. Must have been the vaccines. I just had to mute him.
There is a special level of stupid - snopes believers!
Yeah send it to @mobbs or whatever his
namemutewas. Yes this was it: https://steemit.com/steemit/@mobbs/how-steemit-can-save-millions-of-livesWorse is he made over $400... Pffft
Wow, I must admit I had a look - sort of wish I hadn't though :)
In 10 months on Steemit I've never seen such a pile of crap and the thought that he made over $400 for quoting snopes has blown my mind.
I thought Steemit users were well above that level...
But I have a policy of avoiding arguing with morons, especially on Steemit, so I won't go there!
The fact that it got 165 votes including a big payout from blocktrades is a bit horrifying when this post only got 28 votes, but those snopes believers have some serious money behind them
Mobbs is a chronic resteemer from China who describes his account as "Basically me pushing my interests onto you" - one of the few true things he has ever said :)
Great post on the issue. I too hope the matter will become obsolete but both sides are so heated in this topic that it hard to imagine at what point people will realize vaccines are a business and not the salvation. Thank you for your input on this matter.
It is intense, all of the fighting, but most of the emotion is misdirected as usual. The shot was never really needed, even if it did do what it claims.
Interesting article. I am interested in both sides of the debate.
It has been interesting to see here in New Zealand that the Vaxxed documentary has been shown in selected spots around the country along with huge amount of controversy. Of course people has their opinions and they are entitled to these.
But the thing that struck me the most was that people who haven't seen the documentary or refuse to see it have had very strong views saying that this documentary should not be shown to anyone or banned here. This troubles me, not because i believe or disbelieve the content of the doco (which I have seen on YouTube) but that people are not even willing to watch the documentary to see the opposing side's evidence which would give them an informed view of where they are coming from and thus would be able to accurately rebut any of the claims brought forward.
I hope people do watch it and any pro-vax doco's, do a bit of research, ask some questions and form a view based on what they have found out.
I found Vaxxed online a year or so ago, so I got to see it, but that video didn't stay up for long! It is telling when information is banned or discouraged-- are they worried that the film is too convincing? And the way the actor Robert DeNero was slaughtered in the media for being affiliated, also says something I think. Especially considering the history of the shots, there seems to be a lot of concern over getting the needle into everyone.
hi @teepee (I couldn't find any posts you'd done yourself so apologies for dropping this here)
Hi, as you are a fellow kiwi I wanted to drop off an invitation to our NZ group in Discord. We'd love to have you join us, to be able to take advantage of group things and connect with other kiwis. :)
(if the link has expired just yell out and I'll issue a fresh one)
We also have a @teamnz profile you could follow if you like, and keep up to date with news and other kiwis - we publish twice a week.
Well stated, that's the first time I've seen those particular graphs but I've seen similar ones going back even further.
Scheduled vaccinations could very well already be obsolete but they're huge money makers for big pharma and sadly, I don't think they're going away any time soon.
Oh, and hopefully you're not upset but I just pushed you off of that 666 followers.
Oh thanks for the push! I saw that number, wondered what i could do about it. Well maybe a vaccine article, I'll lose some followers!
Oddly enough, I find more people willing to rationally discuss the topic here than anywhere else.
The problem is that so many of the people here have horror stories and I think the pharma shills are a little scared to enter.
Oh this is strange, I'm at 333, i.e. half-evil
Oh they should be scared, but if they dare, we'll all talk it over, with our graphs and charts and links, get things rolling.
Not sure if you know of her @canadian-coconut is someone you might like to talk to. Also @kafkanarchy84 was talking about starting a podcast about vaccine reactions/injuries.
There's strength in numbers
Actually it was @canadian-coconut who gave me the courage to put this together here, I've been wanting to write about the topic for a while, but always have hesitated.
I was just commenting on another post that there's something happening here, people feel safe to open up and express themselves without being judged or attacked.
Maybe it's just that we're all the loonies from society and we've congregated here? ;-)
I'm OK with that, I've never really fit into "society" per se.
Good article my man. I like your post so much.
Thank for sharing this one.
I hope I will be your friend forever.
Many blessing for you my familt
Thanks for reading it, I appreciate that. Peace.
May I be the devil's advocate for doctors? I could be wrong but that scar is most likely from a smallpox vaccine since polio is orally administered. Maybe someone made a mistake when they told you. Not from the shot but from the scabbing of the live virus it injected, that is putting the vaccine containing fluid on the skin and then making multiple small jabs in the skin with a pointed vaccination stylus. BCG vaccines for tuberculosis leave a similar scar but you don't seem young enough to have one of those, they are pretty recent. The immune reaction caused an ulcer and therefore a scar. In the near future with DNA sequencing, we will only need to vaccinate the population at risk. Now is mostly a brush stroke measure to protect the population statistically. At the moment is the smaller of many evils.
I am 55 and I probably had all the vaccines that were available when I was a kid, as did all kids back then, I did not see any negative side effects, of course a few would get fever for a couple of days. So maybe they were of no use, but were not harmful. Now the flu vaccine I have serious misgivings about, everyone who takes them gets sick, since I was already a full grown man when these came out I declined them, and I hardly ever get a flu or cold.
Yeah all I have as injury evidence is the scar, I don't remember being sick from it personally.
I think you are very right. I have for years now thought that really it isn't about health. I also don't think it is just about money. I think there is a bit of trying to get people to accept Government as Mommy and Daddy. Mine are dead and though I loved them, I am not looking to replace them especially not with Government.
Exactly! It's not only money, it's control, over those basic parental abandonment issues that many people hide from themselves, but many will accept a strong or nurturing .gov as a substitute.
The funny thing is that we can prevent that by pointing out the etymological meaning of Government.
Govern=Control
Mente=Mind
In English this grammatically translates to Mind Control. I often think if we referred to Government as mind control this might serve to keep people on Guard to there double speak. lol
I am following you now, you speak my language.
After reading your post following you was the most logical thing to do. I think we think alike, but that it is enough different the way we write that I will learn from you. I sure hope I can give value for value.
Make the medical field prove vaccines work. I like this idea more then attacking them on the side effects. We just accept they would not hurt us but that is not the case. We are all living experiments for their warped minds.
Yep, side effects shouldn't be a topic for something that is unnecessary anyway. I guess the safety concerns can be spun, but the history and statistics don't lie.
When they make the flu vaccine for the upcoming flu season, it's not even know for sure which strain is going to make the rounds for that year so it's a stab in the dark.
This is one reason the flu vaccine is admittedly so ineffective in the first place, not to mention the side effects it comes with as the ambulance drivers in your post are well aware of.
The vaccine industry in it's current form is a total racket and part of something I call the American Disease Machine.
I just read a really cool book called Fear of the Invisible by Janine Roberts. In the book Roberts does a great job documenting the whole polio vaccine which is really eye opening.
The book questions virology as a whole and does a good job punching holes in it.
People that worship the church of vaccine science have obviously not researched the history of the subject.
The story of the discovery of the supposed HIV virus is even more scandalous, stuff Hollywood couldn't even dream up.
Upvoted and followed.
Peace,
Michael
I'd heard fishy things about the polio vaccine, but didn't have any data on that to include here, thanks for mentioning that, I'd like to hear about the eye opening parts! I'll check out the Disease Machine, sounds like my kind of stuff (to read)
Thanks @therealpaul ... I plan on doing a vaccine post sometime soon but that's one I will put A LOT of work into and since I'm still minnow food, I'm waiting until my posts get seen a bit more so I can get it in front of a few more eyeballs. :o)
Peace man,
Michael