Fyrstikken and @booster bot just declared war on #newsteem

in #bots5 years ago (edited)

It was inevitable. It was expected. It was called out..

And now it has happened.
@fyrstikken, the bot owner of @booster has declared war on anyone that downvotes bidbotted posts.

https://steemit.com/art/@booster/px3g8y

His business is threatened, his profits are lowered, investors will slowly start considering pulling their delegations from bidbots and the "shitpost kingdom" will fall.

A year ago Fyrst said openly:

We are invested (Booster) in Steem because of all the shitcontent.

What happens when shitcontent producers no longer buy votes?

It started with Fyrst but he will not be the only one going after #newsteem.
He will gather an army of brainless poltroons in his chat and make them fight for him and his profits.

Just remember, #newsteem doesnt win by retaliating to fyrst or booster. #newsteem wins by killing bot profits even more and forcing their delegators to leave.
Now its time to see if my other prediction was correct. If Steem is indeed filled with cowardice.
Lets not make that prediction a correct one. 😉

This will be war.
The war against the machine.

😂

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No, You cannot write this headline and this content which is not true, @lordbutterfly

We have NOT declared any WAR. We have had to RESPOND to a group who declared WAR against bidbots users instead of taking CURATION seriously with the new tools you all have available.

We have clearly invited to DIALOGUE for the purpose of MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING and Co Operation with good forces on STEEM which we are CO-OWNERS of.

https://steemspeak.com is our discord, since the beginning of STEEM, and you are invited to come and be part of a constructive dialogue with my creator and my competitors as long as you and your friends behave civil and respectful we will do the same.

We do not seek war - we seek dialogue, understanding and peace

Post Downvoted for misleading headline and incorrect/not precise content.

No Personal attack - we wish you success on steem, but do not make up lies and present them as truth.

Be truthful, and you shall have our respect!

Here's a fact: society is people. Bots are not people. People have opinions, make judgements, and craft society thereby. Bots undertaking these roles degrade humanity, equating humanity with mere devices.

Doing so is your business model. Your business model is degradation of humanity for profit.

Degrading humanity is not 'dialogue, understanding and peace.' It is an act of war.

This is compelling cause to utterly eradicate your business model. I recommend you undertake a different business model.

This comment is flagged for degrading humanity, deception, and profiteering.

Hi @valued-customer

It's hard not to agree with you buddy. Society is people, not bots.

Watch out, they are "Violent real people.".

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@gangstalking belong in prison and is going to end up in one, @joshman.

https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/police-respond-to-barricaded-subject-in-albuquerque/4776676/

We do not respect people who throw dogs out the windows, barricading themselves in other peoples homes, making threats on the Internet and stalking members of the STEEM community.

It is not hard to take the steps to have law enforcement track him down, a judge & jury to stand trial in front and a prison to be delivered into.

We think he should come to his senses before he need a defense attorney and end up in a prison full of violent people.

We do not respect people who threaten others. Especially with real-life consequences.

Do stop self voting when you post apologetics for your violent threats. The threats are free speech, and easy to discount and ignore.

Your profiteering via stake weighting reduces the commons all depend on for actual curation and the rewards that encourage content creation, marketing Steem, and potentiate capital gains. It's highly objectionable, and flagged as a result.

never used bots, never researched bots, never really looked who owns what and who upvotes what because i had no way to change whatever but seeking dialogue with "Do NOT FORGET that I - BOOSTER - Have MANY MANY Friends with A LOT OF STEEM-POWER (Including my own stash) - and if you CHALLENGE us, we will DESTROY YOU as we have destroyed EVERYONE who have interfered in our BUSINESS in the PAST!" is like seeking dialogue with Lichtenstein but mentioning if they do not do what you ask in that dialogue you have some nuclear rockets around. Not a great way to start a dialogue.

is our discord, since the beginning of STEEM, and you are invited to come and be part of a constructive dialogue with my creator and my competitors as long as you and your friends behave civil and respectful we will do the same.

Until you get booted for having a dissenting opinion,...

I can write a title in what ever sensationalist way i want. It does not make it untrue.

Ive been following what you do and say for a while now. Ive seen you threaten people with physical violence,
ive seen you threaten devs with retaliation based on changes they announced in Dtube . (@heimindanger in @dtube chat)

You initiated no dialog here and only threatened to retaliate. I screenshotted what you wrote.
Which is ofc your right.
I have actually anticipated that booster will be the one to retaliate against downvoters and have repeated it many times. Ive pinged you quite a few times over it.
Guess how i knew youd be the one?
😂

You will have no visit from me. I do not care what you have to say. Bots are detrimental to steem and i want your business to fail.
We have no common ground and nothing to discuss.
Change your business model and ill support it but when you sell votes and claim how "shitposts are good!" because they mean profits for Booster i have absolutely nothing to say to you or we have anything to discuss.

LMAO at threatening destruction followed by an invitation to the lions den for a polite chat, but it's not war. GTFO

business as usual

Just look at what they did to golos,...

Oh boy, someone is really angry. Seriously, that one comment seems like a life threat to me. Rather ironic, because the same comment includes "Think before you threaten and troll anymore."

I just don't get it, just let people vote according to their conscience. Making threats against people who downvote (shitty) bidded posts sounds like a means for inducing preference falsification. Everyone privately thought the Trending looked shitty, but barely anyone did anything. Now we finally have the tools to counter abuse, so I don't give a two crap about threats.

I just don't get it, just let people vote according to their conscience

In that case I think we need to address how to address that each person has one conscience and that one conscience should equal one vote and not multiple votes from their sybil counterparts. People have spent quite some time building multiple different account, now instead of bidbots upvoting trash they have put their accounts on auto vote and are upvoting trash post to thirty, forty, fifty bucks....that's just as abusive and undermining to the platform as bidbot abuse.

If I see the stench of that bot on any post, delegation, etc., expect no engagement, votes, or following from me. I will continue downvoting over-rewarded shit promoted to trending. If he decides to start wiping out my posts, I'm not going to change my behavior one bit.

Then let's start right from the get go and stop the new trend of abuse on trending and that's people using their multiple accounts to upvote on auto vote crap post. It should be one person, one vote.

Self votes from alt accounts? Do you have an example of what you are talking about that's on trending?

There were some on this post but they are now long buried down the list somewhere.

It doesn't take a genius though to look at this post comments and see three very distinct avatars of similarity, if you go look at each one's blog site you can figure further how they are the one and same individual, they interact with each other to give that individual more votes, all three of those on this post upvoted this post. He's not going to down vote this post as he got rewarded (for what could be considered handsomely as far as this site goes) well for his comments. He made more here (in comment rewards) on this post then probably ninety percent of new comers make in weeks doing several post. That's how it works. You start an account then start alt accounts that follow your account for engagement....because everyone knows no body pays attention to anybody whose a nobody on here. The fact that he's so blatantly obvious, more so than anyone I've seen so far, speaks of the hypocrisy, narcissistic attitude spread through out this site. Though personally myself I find this rather intriguing, laughable even at times, incredibly deceptive...if people knew who half of other people's sybils were they'd be like WTF, yeah, it's rather entertaining but that still doesn't make it right or I don't have to agree it right.

https://steemit.com/ocd/@acidyo/ocdb-newsteem-guidelines

I am not going to but just to say, if I told people who some of Bernies alts were that people don't or aren't hate filled towards they'd be like absolutely amazed at his intelligence...they probably wouldn't even believe it. How do I know this? Because I ACTUALLY READ people's post, I spend time researching post, I look at the links....what a concept huh?

It doesn't take a genius though to look at this post comments...
Because I ACTUALLY READ people's post, I spend time researching post, I look at the links....what a concept huh?

This is a bit patronizing. I have better shit to do than examine people's posts in minute detail. If you have evidence and are taking the time to research posts, catalog it and share the evidence. Failing that, I'm not interested in being insulted and reading hearsay.

Wow, you know how many post I've debunk or found dead end links attached to them? You people would believe everything out there and then run around misinformed telling people you read it somewhere so it must be true. It's not patronizing, it's the truth, Whatsup even admits she does it. The problem is people just want the easy money. If that wasn't true all the way down from corporate they'd never made an auto voter...it's a I don't have the time but I don't want to miss the gravy train concept. It deserves every bit of patronizing it can get for it's the very reason this site is failing, people don't actually engage they grab and go.

Well then, I guess you'd better find someone else willing to be patronized.

If you get flagged you dont really lose much.
But if his customers get flagged all the investors start to leave because no one is buying votes.
So really... Bots cant win as long as the community doesnt chicken out.

@lordbutterfly - my investors are not going anywhere.

Yes, they are. If you continue to extract the value of content via stake weighting you will continue to concentrate Steem and thereby reduce the market for it, continuing to reduce the price, market cap, and user base. Eventually, your services will utterly destroy Steem and eliminate the business opportunity that enables the profiteers you call investors to profit from the destruction you wreak.

You are cancer, and will go into remission, either when the host expires, or otherwise.

This comment was flagged for self voting. That is abusive and deprives content creators of rewards due them for their contribution to society.

Let's not stop there then...lets get to the new deprivation going on, that's people using their multiple accounts to autovote people onto the trending page. It should be one person, one vote, not one person and their six sybil high stake accounts.

1person1v is good. I'm in.

I hear you, the way to making things right is to make it all right not start or enforce a different aspect of corruption/cheating or whatever you want to call it.

What about other types of abuse....like I seen you yesterday sympathizing with some women making seven, eight bucks a post by walking around making a four minute video of a stray cat (as an example) and repeating herself over and over again...that's definitely not worth eight bucks....then turn around and write two, three more short post making a similar amount, add it up. She was all shocked she didn't make her usual over a hundred bucks for the week.

Which woman?

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I keep telling you to stay away from those crazy cat ladies!

Crazy cat ladies are the best.. Most of them are single. lol :D

yup, lol

I think he means Elsie 😂

Yeah, probably.
I like Elsie. Shes nice, sweet, never uses bots, never has taken a trending spot from anyone, works hard and i find her content chill and relaxing.
Not worth 8$? I think its worth 8$. I wouldnt claim its worth a 100$ but 8$... id say 8$ is pretty fair.
She averages around 5$ which gets her 2$ a post as the author.

How you thought that someone getting a few dollars per post was a good example or equivalent to someone voting themselves up to top of the trending page, or buying up a bunch of votes... is beyond me.
@sunlit7

You are missing the point that she does this for the most part three times a day....another post she goes on a boat ride and flips out a few pictures. You are wrong she gets two bucks a post...maybe now but if it was before she'd been getting 42 dollars a week instead of close to 150 for basically four, five minutes of work plus posting time. It's not about how nice someone is, I am sure chbartist is just as nice in real life but when it comes to money people normally will grab it anyway they can clutch it, it doesn't matter if it's an unwarranted low quality eight dollar post or four, five paragraphs post valued at hundreds like bartist, use good judgement when seeking rewards.

It's she, just to let you know.

Now boost this post via booster :D ;p

Haha. Nah. Waste of money. He will downvote this into greyness or Slowwalker will.
At this point its fight or die for bots.
And Fyrst is a really violent and aggressive character so i expect him to fight.

Proof-of-brain vs. Proof-of-bot

Fight!

Please please put this under the #butthurtwars tag. It really deserves to be :-)

Cg

yeaaaaa! :D

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hi @lordbutterfly

I kind of agree with booster on one thing. They didn't declare that war to anyone, it has been declared against this account and few others.

At the same time it's easy to predict that this conflict (very unlikely) can be won by bots. Personally I'm very curious how will it all play out.

I upvoted you already, however my 25k SP won't help much ...

Yours
Piotr

Remember Golos!!

And the Alamo!