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RE: Temperature Increases First.

in #discussion7 years ago

according to you CO2 causes warming...why do you want to stop that?

Not according to me, according to thousands of scientists on this planet.
I want it to stop because towns/cities on the coasts all over the world will all be destroyed and millions of people will be displaced due to sea level rise. But like I said in one of my previous comments, it is already too late, sea level and temp increase has already started and will gradually get worse even if CO2 emissions by humans were completely stopped. Basically things like this will start happening in coastal cities all over the world

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so if it's too late why worry?
take precautions..

Not according to me, according to thousands of scientists on this planet
so you don't really know.
you're taking someone elses word for it.

why don't you study the data yourself?
read up on the science YOURSELF
Understand it YOURSELF.
then come to your own conclusion?

hehe

so you don't really know.
you're taking someone elses word for it.

I have studied the data and I understand it, that is why I believe the word of the scientists who have scientific evidence to backup their conclusions.

and we disagree.
I've studied the data and also understand it.
my conclusion is that CO2 (and all human activity) is irrelevant.
and that there are a number of indicators that suggest it's gonna get cool by and by..
Giraffes, elephants wander in snow after freak blizzards hit Africa...
for example.
and


snow in the Sahara.

Freak weather events are irrelevant in the long term.
The formula is simple, the more CO2 is emitted into earth's atmosphere the higher earth's temperatures will rise, oceans warm, ice melts and sea levels rise. Everything scientists have predicated for decades is already happening, all you have to do is open your eyes to see it.

Freak weather events are irrelevant in the long term.
exactly right.
for the last 8,000 years..
it's been getting COLDER on average.

the high temperatures in the eighties are irrelevant to the long term
the hottest recorded temperatures were in the 1930s

it was even hotter in the Holocine optimium, and during the time of the Minoan's, the romans, the medieval warm spell. Between each warm period there have been cold ones...the temperature recovered each time..but not as warm as it was preceeding the cold.

I am sorry but you will not convince me because I know your conclusion is incorrect. Look at the chart I shared in one of my previous comments, which shows 800,000 years of CO2 levels and temperature of earth. This data was gathered from ice core samples by many scientists from many different countries working together. You can right click on the image and open it in a new window to see it in full size.

The chart clearly shows that CO2 levels and temperature are correlated. CO2 is a greenhouse gas, as CO2 increases more heat from the sun is trapped in earth's atmosphere and temperature goes up. CO2 levels are currently higher than they have been for over 800,000 years, there is no reason to believe temperatures will drop unless some sort of external event like a massive volcanic explosion or meteor occurs and gases will block sunlight from getting to the earth's surface.

The myth that CO2 does not cause temperature rise was created by the fossil fuel corporations who make billions extracting free stuff from the ground and selling it to people. They spread propaganda so they can keep earning revenue and so they do not look bad to the public. This is the same type of propaganda that was created by the tobacco corporations when they said cigarettes were not bad for you.

Have a nice day :)

I am sorry but you will not convince me because I know your conclusion is incorrect

Gotcha...facts don't matter to you.
Lemme ask you this.
22,000 years ago the CO2 level was less than 200 ppm

then the temperature went UP.

why?

co2 is an effect...not a cause

according to the Vostok Ice Cores
(Ice Cores drilled in Greenland confirm)

Freak weather events are irrelevant in the long term.
exactly right.
Stunning video closeup of the eye of #HurricaneFlorence

The U.S. coast is in an unprecedented hurricane drought
it's the long term that matters.

The formula is simple, the more CO2 is emitted into earth's atmosphere the higher earth's temperatures will rise, oceans warm, ice melts and sea levels rise

Nope
the last 4 glaciations, CO2 lagged temperature by several thousand years:
is over a hundred thousand years of data good enough?