A lot of the current press around the very real issues with our climate and environment focuses on activist Greta Thunberg. That is not very surprising as the media loves a personality they can focus on as that is easier than actually dealing with the issues she raises. I admit there is something of the Joan of Arc about her and she says herself that she is on the autistic spectrum, but she is dealing with science rather than some divine inspiration. She is providing inspiration herself for millions of kids around the world who fear for their future. They are seeing dramatic changes around the world that cannot be totally blamed on natural causes.
I may well get some 'climate skeptics' responding to this as I have on previous posts. I am waiting for them to point me at some proof that humans are not in part to blame for what we are seeing. I can recommend the Skeptical Science site for answers to most of the questions they will raise.
In any case the effects of our society on the state of the air, water and ground is blatantly obvious and dealing with that goes a long way towards reducing climate damage. We need to use less stuff generally. We in the west live like kings compared with just a few generations ago, but it does not necessarily make us happier people.
There is a concerted campaign by various business and political forces to sow doubt about the issue. Exxon knew about it decades ago. Top politicians such as Trump buy into this as it is convenient for them to accept donations and other benefits from these industries. They may try to make themselves look greener with solar projects, but their main assets are the oil and gas reserves they control and want to exploit. They fear their shares crashing if they cannot do so.
On Friday I was at a local demonstration that was part of the Global Climate Strike. We have to show the politicians that this is important to their voters and is not just about one young, bright Swedish girl.
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Surely there is NO possible way that humans and humans uncharted levels of population has something to do with the planet's natural balance????
Surely!
And EVEN IF it was possible that humans could impact the planet, what can we ever do anyway? We are helpless and there is no way that we can do anything that would have any effects on anything everrrrrr
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yep, it's all in our hands, people! this is our home, and our children and their children's children will inherit what we leave behind so every one needs to do our bits, the small individuals do our bits and goddammit the big corporations and country leaders need to do their bits too jfc
We can do amazing things as well as terrible things. Greed is a powerful force and we need to be a bit more selfless.
Yep. Totally.
I didn't watch Thunberg. It wasn't meant for me anyway as I already agree and I never was much for heroes. But I have attended the demonstrations with my daughter. Anything that can get things going.
I didn't need her to persuade me either, but the publicity she gets inspires others
There is a huge problem for me with her, she is not providing solutions and her travels are powered by political interests. While starting with good intentions, she now is schooled in public relations and well-financed by the left spectrum of the political spheres.
Check her total public appearance. 0 Solutions - to never have to discuss them, so there is no way to oppose her with arguments or let her be part of a solution. They made her a tool, she really belongs back 2 school... how foolish of her to let it come this far.
So you are making it about her and not the actual issue? Why do you expect a child to solve this difficult problem? She is acting as the conscience the politicians seem to lack.
Yes exactly! This is the out of the Box answer and the reason why she gets funded and pushed around. That poor girl gets dragged around the globe and pushed in front of cameras while people tell her that she will save the world.
Thanks for being a sheep and repeating the narrative that you've been told by the media for weeks. Btw. she is 16, even if she looks 12 - that is barely a child anymore.
Now, start thinking for urself, there are solutions everyone can discuss about. Centralized CO² reconversion, strikter rules for meat animal breeding, reafforestation - what also includes the already running economic conflicts with Venezuela and Brazil and reconstruction of the atmosphere (what we already did in the past). If we get these things done right, there is no climate change anymore.
But you will never see that puppet of a poor girl allowed to talk about that because mainstream media has no intention of de-escalation and her funders even less. Only on that very day when they are done with her, she will be allowed to go back to normal and have a life again
So let's hear your position, I'm curious.
I was concerned about these issues before she was born. There is no excuse for claiming ignorance given that climate and pollution have been widely discussed for decades. I'm interested in who you think is manipulating me. Obviously not big industry. Who is this mysterious force that is driving 'mainstream media', which seems to exclude Fox and other right wing outlets. What do they have to gain? I know a lot of powerful people want to destroy trust in journalism so they have full control of public thought. I am far less of a sheep than you imagine.
There are lots of things we could be doing. Changing agricultural policies would be a big start. Burning forests for monoculture is very destructive. We need more trees, not less, and I know the UK has a bad history of this. We also need policies that force industry to be cleaner. That may make some things more expensive, but a lot of those are artificially cheap when you consider the damage done.
Greta may be a little manipulated, but she is obviously smart and less of child than when she started her protests. Meanwhile a man-child is running the US and throwing tantrums because people are mean to him. We need more people who are prepared to speak out about issues that affect everyone.
You threw the Sheep argument at me, I want a fair discussion, I really do care. But that means we all need to be able to discuss everyone's arguments, disregarding who they are.
That's your President... what should I say, I'm from germany.
Now let's check reality:
And all of that on an international level...
I have my doubts that we see the real route already. What would you do?
You mentioned sheep first. I'm British, so not my president either, but his actions still affect us.
I stopped eating meat 25 years ago. I agree with taxing pollution and nuclear should be an option, but it is still incredibly expensive and has waste issues. We need better travel infrastructure so we need to drive less and cheap flights may need to be taxed more. Have incentives to get solar panels or electric cars. We've had those, but they have been reduced recently. Germany has been ahead of most countries on green issues for years. I saw this when I lived there in the late 80s. Individuals can only do so much, but we can influence the political direction. The UK only has one Green MP. We need to improve on that, but Brexit is a counterproductive distraction.
I will keep posting about these issues. I have a range of interests, but we need these discussions here as well.
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here check this out:
That is what you get, People called her out as a public figure making a lot of fuss and not providing solutions or pushing the discussion in the right direction are always getting this super aggressive "BUT SHE'S ONLY A CHILD" smackdown answer. That is not an argument, that is populism and victimization - pushing forword a narrative of guilt and not toxicating the air.
So once more, this Rick and Morty quote that is so important:
... and she is 16, that is not a child anyway... and thinks to have a superpower xE
Still on the messenger...
It is pretty sad that our "leader" reacted to her the way he did. I am quite ashamed. I think it is great what she is doing and any awareness about climate change is better than no awareness.
It would be great if his own kids joined the strikes. He and other 'grown ups' have let down future generations.
BTC hash rate drops 30% after her appearance? Conspiracy I tell you!
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I am not a climate scientist, but I can see issues like the melting Arctic and fires breaking out around the world. If we are not to blame then it's an amazing coincidence that this happens as out emissions are at a peak. When the scientific studies overwhelmingly point at human causes you have take notice. Dismissing it as 'Chinese fraud', without providing evidence, is not helpful. Of course scientists have been wrong before, but the damage apart from the climate is worth doing something about.
Whatever...