YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS, TRUST NO ONE

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Human rights are granted by consensus (NOT gods or kings).

Human rights are granted by consensus (NOT gods or kings).

THEN 'Consensus' = -The Grantor of said 'Rights'-, and 'Consensus' can REVOKE said 'Rights', thus != 'Inalienable'.

Ok,

No human can survive in isolation. If all humans were inclined to be hermits, it would spell certain doom.

There is a tendency to believe all human survival instinct dictates, "I will do anything to survive" (including lie cheat steal and kill).

However, there can be no human society without trust (faith/loyalty).

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Currently, the overwhelming consensus seems to have (dis)placed their trust-faith-loyalty in the religion-of-money (bank owners).

They no longer have trust-faith-loyalty in actual humans. They merely see humans as a means-to-an-end and find it perfectly acceptable to fake their trust-faith-loyalty for the mere expectation (empty promises) of accumulating more religion-of-money-tokens.

We're living in an age of (faithless) mercenaries who only have trust-faith-loyalty to the religion-of-money-tokens.

This is unsustainable.

Yes, it appears that the consensus has revoked human rights. But this spells our certain doom.

As individuals we participate in society with the expectation to be treated fairly.

As individuals we participate in our family with the expectation to be treated fairly.

As soon as parents and siblings are determined to be capricious and faithless, we begin playing a game of cynical manipulation. We all rush to stab each other in the back as quickly as possible.

There must be a solid foundation of trust-faith in order to mitigate COERCION.

So, I guess I'd say,

(IFF) you value your own life and freedom (THEN) you must interact with others in an honest and trustworthy, faithful and loyal manner WITHOUT COERCION (THEREFORE) COERCION = EVIL (AND) FREEDOM (defined as NOT COERCION) = GOOD.

AND the only way to guarantee NO COERCION is to guarantee some minimum of human consideration, regardless of their identity or previous actions.

So,

(IFF) you value your own life and freedom (THEN) you must value the life and freedom of your fellow humans (AND) since you will be inevitably rendered helpless and powerless at some point in your life (as you approach the inevitable dusk) you must also guarantee the life and freedom of the helpless and powerless.

Nobody can defend their own life and liberty forever.

In other words,

since you will be inevitably rendered helpless and powerless at some point in your life (as you approach the inevitable dusk) you must also guarantee the life and freedom of the helpless and powerless.

(IFF) you expect instead to live in a dog-eat-dog world (THEN) THERE IS NO LAW (ONLY COERCION).

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Sammy: What will you do when you can no longer protect yourself?

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Sid: My family will care for me.

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Sammy: Are you certain? Have you cultivated deep and trusting relationships that are not based on COERCION or "mutual gain"?

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Sid: Eh, I've been nice to them for the most part.

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Sammy: Ok, what will you do if your family abandons you, or you outlive them, or they are either unaware of your predicament or otherwise incapable of assisting you?

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Sid: I'll pay someone to take care of me.

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Sammy: How do you expect to keep your hired (mercenary) caretaker from taking all your money at once or COERCING you into overpaying?

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Sid: I'll call the cops on them if they try and cheat me.

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Sammy: What if your care-takers convince the cops you're delusional?

Sammy: What if your care-takers simply cut your phone lines and abandon you bedridden?

THE LAW ONLY EXISTS BY THE FAITH OF THE CONSENSUS (OR COERCION).

(IFF) YOU VALUE YOUR OWN LIFE AND FREEDOM (THEN) YOU MUST DEMAND HUMAN RIGHTS

In other words,

since you will be inevitably rendered helpless and powerless at some point in your life (as you approach the inevitable dusk) you must also guarantee the life and freedom of the helpless and powerless.

In 1 minute and 45 seconds,

Do you think we can get along for 5 minutes without the people below us?

Much greater detail in 18 minutes and 12 seconds,

Special thanks to @oldoneeye

SOURCE CONVO

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At what point to we begin to conflate MONEY with MORALITY?

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In my opinion, the theory that humans are capable of doing everything, even the most despicable things, for survival is a myth, they say as an example that the underworld exists because there is poverty, people dying of hunger who take to the streets to steal, because if they don't they die, but they miss two things; the majority of the poor don't do "everything" to survive, only a minority; and most criminals are not in the lowest part of the social pyramid, but are rich and powerful, who steal more, kill more, and do more damage to society each one of them, than all the "poor criminals" united. The only thing they seek when saying that the human is capable of everything to survive, is to say that the human places himself above everything else, that we are animals in suits that deceive ourselves (which in a certain sense is true, but not in that sense), that the human is really bad by nature. Which is part of a tendency to misanthropy that exists in modern society.

There are thousands of cases of people who have rejected their survival, who have put their own lives at risk to fight for ideals, for values, for freedom and for justice, and who show that the human is not a cold-blooded animal.

Now, let's talk about those who do evil who are very few in comparison, and who are very high in the social hierarchy. They do evil, by choice, not for survival, because they are very ignorant beings, that their simple presence in positions of power is based on destroying society from within, eroding the trust and cooperation of people, which are the pillars of the society. They call this "ruling", and they believe in fact that they are ruling, governing and controlling people with all their lies and corruption, but what they are really doing to society is destroying it. But they don't even have the slightest idea about this, that is one of the reasons why I say they are ignorant, they don't know the full consequences of their actions, they in their head believe that they can continue to rule forever, but they have no idea that the longer they rule, the less society they will have to rule, the less power they have, and the more insignificant they become.

The only possible and viable form of society is cooperation between free people, everything else is really self-destruction.

...they say as an example that the underworld exists because there is poverty, people dying of hunger who take to the streets to steal, because if they don't they die, but they miss two things; the majority of the poor don't do "everything" to survive, only a minority;

People don't immediately choose crime if there are horrifying legal options (dangerous or unpleasant work) available to them.

...and most criminals are not in the lowest part of the social pyramid, but are rich and powerful, who steal more, kill more, and do more damage to society each one of them, than all the "poor criminals" united.

I agree 100% with you on this point.

People don't immediately choose crime if there are horrifying legal options (dangerous or unpleasant work) available to them.

Yeah, but everyone really has options, just that some prefer to do morally reprehensible things and others don't.

There are situations where there really are no other options, although they are admittedly rare.

Also, there are also (less rare) situations where the LAW ITSELF is immoral.

For example,

In 8 minutes,

In my opinion, the theory that humans are capable of doing everything, even the most despicable things, for survival is a myth,

You will kill to survive,

Maybe, but killing is not always something morally bad, there are cases in which killing someone is justified, as in personal defense. In that case most people would kill, if strictly necessary, to survive, and it wouldn't be necessarily a bad thing.

But in the case of cannibalism, I don't think most people are capable of murdering an innocent person to survive, there are exceptions of course, yes there are people who would do that kind of thing, like those sailors, but I would not bet that are the rule. Most would not be able to. At least that's what I think. And the ones that would be are simply people who are willing to do similar things in any situation, they just have never been forced to do it and that's why they don't.

But in the case of cannibalism, I don't think most people are capable of murdering an innocent person to survive,

I think the numbers are perhaps a little higher than you and I like to think,

The only thing they seek when saying that the human is capable of everything to survive, is to say that the human places himself above everything else, that we are animals in suits that deceive ourselves (which in a certain sense is true, but not in that sense), that the human is really bad by nature.

I wouldn't say "bad by nature", in the same way we don't consider it "evil" when a wolf eviscerates a rabbit.

There are thousands of cases of people who have rejected their survival, who have put their own lives at risk to fight for ideals, for values, for freedom and for justice, and who show that the human is not a cold-blooded animal.

Genuine self-sacrifice is most common when parents are protecting their own children, otherwise it is more of an anomaly than "the rule".

Some are brainwashed with the "hero myth" which (dubiously) promises "eternal honor" in exchange for their life.

It is a matter of finding something what matters more to people than their own life to show that it is not simply a matter of survival (in that case life would be above everything). For some it is their children, for others ideas, for others religion, values, etc., even money, comfort, and the like, it is not always a good thing

CON-ARTISTS hijack our natural motives.

(1) PROTECT YOUR SELF = PROTECT THE IDEAS OF YOUR LEADERS/RELIGION/PROPHETS
(2) PROTECT YOUR FAMILY = PROTECT YOUR FELLOW SOLDIERS/ZEALOTS/ORGANIZATION
(3) PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY = PROTECT THE SYMBOLS AND RELICS AND TERRITORY OF YOUR LEADERS/RELIGION/PROPHETS

For example, "i am second". LINK

Now, let's talk about those who do evil who are very few in comparison, and who are very high in the social hierarchy. They do evil, by choice, not for survival, because they are very ignorant beings, that their simple presence in positions of power is based on destroying society from within, eroding the trust and cooperation of people, which are the pillars of the society. They call this "ruling", and they believe in fact that they are ruling, governing and controlling people with all their lies and corruption, but what they are really doing to society is destroying it. But they don't even have the slightest idea about this, that is one of the reasons why I say they are ignorant, they don't know the full consequences of their actions, they in their head believe that they can continue to rule forever, but they have no idea that the longer they rule, the less society they will have to rule, the less power they have, and the more insignificant they become.

The parasites you describe are often "cashing in" on the accumulation of faith a society has built up over time.

In many cases, the individual parasites never suffer the consequences of their "bad faith", merely leaving behind cracks in the foundation of their society, leaving it to crumble long after they've left the table.

Yes, but I think that the problem is bigger than these people, and that they are only the manifestation of the problem. They may never get what they deserve and don't learn the lesson, but society, on the contrary, does learn what it must learn and act accordingly. In this way, people like that don't have that power again. And as far as I know, that is the most we can do and what we need to do. We cannot change the world and how things are, but we can change ourselves and how we are.

WE MUST IDENTIFY CON-ARTISTS AND ROOT-OUT COERCION.

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thank you very much for sharing a great post, have a good day and a great mood

thank you for the post, have a nice day

Love the fairy tale!
I'm working on the story, but as it's a genre I have never even tried to write before, I've hit a snag.

Type up an outline and I'll shoot you some ideas.

Human rights only became a thing because a consensus formed regarding their legitimacy.

there are intellectual double spend attacks taking place to try and rewrite that. it's the onus of each person who holds those ideas to be true to defend against it and rebuke those who would see them undermined or stripped.

Authoritarians are making moves everywhere it feels like, and they'll change any established truth in order to see their power realized

I like your metaphor, "intellectual double spend attacks".

We must never lose sight of the core of all human rights, PERSONAL SOVEREIGNTY.

Intellectual freedom is freedom to believe "idiotic ideas" like "religious ideas" like "flat earth" like "climate denial" like "creationism" like "anti vax".

Medical privacy is sacrosanct.

IF we make thoughts into crimes, then we are enslaved even in our dreams.

Maybe the term human rights, but has been there since man has been working together, there was peace in the group, thats a right of nature and right of man.

It's also most logical and most powerful, stronger in a group.

Thats my opinion, understand your viewpoint, for me its a natural thing.

Nice one!

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