The Case for HIVE SBI as the sticky long-term onboarding solution

in LeoFinance7 months ago

HIVE SBI continues to operate as somewhat of an under-the-radar operation that is still sometimes misunderstood. Take for example, the most popular recent article about the program being titled: Is SBI Still Taboo Or Is It A Valuable Tool On Hive?

In this article I argue that not only is HIVE SBI a valuable tool, it promotes good behavior and long-term thinking in the growing of new accounts on HIVE.

The inverse Ponzi Scheme

Even in a world full of scams, we have to remember that we continue to build on best practices within cutting edge technologies (including digital 'communities') - there are 'REAL' things happening. One project that continues to grow along side HIVE is HIVE SBI.

HIVE SBI FAQ can be referenced, and more up dated docs are being built out on the official documentation. The program is built on automation, so it can grind away in the background pretty easily.


Recently while speaking with @josephsavage, it was revealed to me that the program has 0.86 HIVE backing per unit currently. This is amazing, especially when considering that the program takes in just 0.5 HIVE per unit (minimum 1 HIVE per 2 units generated by sponsor:sponsee transaction).

And here is why the program is a technical reverse ponzi, a dilution scheme that funnels some value from early investors towards new units. Since new units can buy in at any time (send any amount of HIVE to @steembasicincome with nominee in memo) for 0.5 HIVE each, they can 'dilute' early investors. But its okay, people who invest gets lots of benefits - we can at least be sure this is not a ponzi, when leeched value flows in the opposite direction.

Is HIVE SBI a 'good deal'?

This is an important question. Personally for me, the answer is yes, and I want to try to articulate some convincing reasons why I include HIVE SBI in the 'HIVE Backbone' part of my INCOME Synergy Fund portfolio. I identified the project many years ago as well structured automation that locks a growing amount of HP into a protocol that supports a widening community using HIVE, even giving them the tools to support others.

In terms of ROI, the program reports between a 10% and 20% apr in terms of HIVE value. This number depends on whether you value the unit at 0.5 or 1 HIVE each.

The sponsorship mechanism is designed to support this two level analysis. When you sent HIVE to @steembasicincome sponsoring any account, you are going to get 10%+ apr on that for the rest of the life of your account. The other account will also receive the same amount of units as you. @improv's Punday Contest continues to sustain itself and become more sustainable by way of HIVE SBI prizes that it gives away every week. It strengthens the Punday Program and strengthens the participants' accounts.


Now it seems that contests and giveaways, while still existing, are not quite as popular as they used to be. This is fine, HIVE SBI works on an automation level, and can be conceptualized inside an investment framework as well.

What really is a HIVE SBI unit?

HIVE SBI units generate 'balance', which gets delivered as votes on your posts. The balance can accumulate to any level, so it doesn't actually matter how much you post, balance will be delivered.

In this way, you can see that an SBI unit is like a bond that pays interest. Interest automatically accumulates, and is paid as votes on posts. There is some cap on the upside (Maximum deliverable upvote value), but other than that limitation, this functionality dynamically encourages users to come back after a time away due to accrued interest pending to be paid.


It is here that HIVE SBI plays a crucial role in the 'long-term onboarding' of accounts, sometimes also called stickiness. Its a 'nudge' to come back to HIVE, and keep at it (even though its complicated).

Further development is happening now, such as with the site and its ever-growing list of new API endpoints. HIVE SBI has specifically not tokenized their units yet, although they have a future plan to do so under their "SBI DAO" roadmap. From what we know so far, HIVE SBI units will be able to be converted to an SBI token which would be a governance token, and that this would be a one-way process.

Other benefits

A long-term vote bond has other benefits, and it aligns people with a long-term incentive time period, which is better for actually building things.

Vote support is a tricky topic, and I have posted about it before. One of the most challenging parts of the whole set up is that new users often get Zero or very close to Zero votes on their posts. Just overcoming this obstacle is often enough motivation to continue, to keep writing, keep updating.

I definitely think HP is important, but as you grow, and as users account gets more than say, 500 HP, I would recommend considering adding HIVE SBI to your account for additional growth. Our INCOME Synergy Fund has 49,200 HP and 18245 units (9122.5 HIVE's worth).

Organizing effective swaps between users and projects of different type, size and scope is one way that projects and people can lock-in to a long-term growth plan with HIVE SBI. You can arrange them amongst your friends, or message me in discord if you want me to see if I can't help arrange something. SBI Discord has Dolphin, Orca and Whale chatrooms as well.

Helping the noobies

HIVE SBI is also a great tool to help noobies. You can sponsor someone for a few units, and the program will distribute a sustainable stream of votes to them for the life of the blockchain, and will reward you as well. If the noobie disappears, their unclaimed balance will stay on the books, but will never be delivered, just continuing to strengthen the program for those who remain.

I would really like to get some more projects into accumulating HIVE SBI on their project accounts through strategic swaps. I am even willing to further incentivize the arrangements of such swaps buy adding bonus units into the mix. If you or a project you work with would like to arrange HIVE SBI unit swaps, let's discuss in the comments below!

Freedom and Friendship


I love the HSBI project! I think it's a fantastic idea! I've got 16 HSBI shares so far, and I hope to acquire many more! When I am at a place where I have more available liquid HIVE I'll sponsor hopefully many accounts. 😁🙏💚

I will need to reread your article tomorrow

Thanks for letting us know that SBI project is alive and thinking of the future.

@tipu curate

send any amount of HIVE to @steembasicincome with nominee in memo

Shouldn’t it be any whole number amount of Hive?

As in 1 HIVE or 7 HIVE but not 3.14 HIVE?

That is correct; it does need to be a whole number (technically bot only handles the integer, so 3.14 would be treated as 3)

You are precisely right!

I don't think it was ever taboo.
Just some minor downvoting steem drama back on the old chain.

Love Hive sbi. I hope to get more liquid hive in the future nd start upping my shares again.

I have been onboard with SBI since it started and will continue to love it. It's a great program. I have never stopped running contests to give it away BTW. At Blockchain poets ( I give away between 5 and 10 SBI every week. Anyway, great stuff! Keep preaching the good word, @ecoinstant


Aw man @dbooster, you are out of PIMP to slap people.
Go Stake some more and increase your PIMP power.
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SBI was one of my favorite things about Hive, I actually got started as a fresh newbie back on Hive's predecessor... being gifted some as prizes in various newbie challenges. And I still think that is one of its best uses, as encouragement for those who are just starting out.

I know HSBI was in the doghouse for a while... but it is really a long term commitment not so called "vote buying" because it takes a large number of posts just break even. So I see it really more as an investment in a commitment to stay active!

I like HSBI and it definitely helps out. I have also seen quite a few HSBI giveaways but I haven't really been aiming for them unless I see them randomly every now and then. I never knew about the upside cap though because I post regularly.

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Hive SBI is amazing and it reminds me that I need to get more Shares! I am falling behind :D

P.s. What do you mean when you say "strategic swaps"? I didn't understand that part.

Strategic swaps are when you nominate your friend or your project account, and then your friend or your project account sends the same amount and nominates you. This yields 2 units per HIVE spent for both parties involved.

Since some level of abuse is monitored for and can be grounds for losing your balance, this technique is not recommended if you just plan to spam. But if you are a real growing account, project or person, this is a great way to get double juice out of HIVE SBI!

Aaah, Ye I thought those swaps wasn't really frown upon. But I guess one could take to Savage about it before doing it

We can tag him here! @josephsavage

Haha, I wouldn't bother him since I you already answered my question :P haha

Not a bother at all. I'm fine with strategic swaps as long as they're for genuine accounts with decent content. If an account is brought up for review because of quality issues, then the presence of strategic swaps may help the scales balance toward 'abusive' instead of 'needs mentored'.

It's sounds like good token. I shall look in it, and buy some. I just reblogged !

I bought SBI when I was using STEEM and then I bought more when I moved here .

I still remember calling the bot on discord every now and then to check if my % has increased for it to be eligible to vote . I love the project.

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💪😎🤙 very interestin REVERSE ponzi.. good summary of it. 🙏

I have always needed your support and attention. Thank you very much. Good luck and prosperity to you.

When you sent HIVE to @steembasicincome sponsoring any account, you are going to get 10%+ apr on that for the rest of the life of your account. The other account will also receive the same amount of units as you.

This is amazing, i did not knew about this. Also i like the fact that there is no pressure to write content. The team behind this idea are genious.

Early users are lucky, they are being benefitted with this for a long time.

What...ran out of pimp... how about !PIZZA !LOLZ instead

Never scream into a colander
You'll strain your voice.

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@ecoinstant, I sent you an $LOLZ on behalf of @dbooster

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Bang, I did it again... I just rehived your post!
Week 130 of my contest just can now check the winners of the previous week!


I gifted $PIZZA slices here:
@dbooster(7/15) tipped @ecoinstant (x1)

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Is a good concept

Hey! I didn't notice that you gave Punday Monday a shoutout! Thanks!