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RE: The real problems that prevent HIVE and LeoFinance from growing as platforms and projects

I'm not going to say that these aspects aren't in play, but there's much more to it than just this. Taking human nature into account and playing the game well, you can still bring attention to your work and do well. Hive is like an online reflection of the real world. Human nature exists here just as it does in real life. How would you become successful in real life? How would you navigate human nature and market yourself as a business? If you can answer that, then you can learn how to do the same here.

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Kind of and I know what you mean, though if you butt in on the wrong topic with the wrong person and all your work will be ignored or demonetized just like on Youtube. I've been here since 2016 and know how it works intimately. Most put in a lot of work, which is what it is, work and get nowhere. They work as hard as a 40 hr a week job for pennies on the dollar. Some like you can say what you did, because you made it, mostly, but you are the exception, not the rule.

My comment wasn't detailed, which I acknowledged. It's a summary of the exact reasons Hive has never taken off and why the whales aren't in the forefront of trying to get Hive noticed seriously. That's because they have no incentive to do so and there are consequences for them instead. On top of that, when they run off users who are popular with high stakes over subjective ideals, they further hurt the platform. They did exactly that when they ran out Kenny and showed the world that censorship does exist here and it's just as ugly as on any centralized platform.

Everything you say is very strong, @alphahippie, but I perceive, from everything I have experienced here personally, that you are very right in everything you say.

The truth is that I believe that HIVE and LeoFinance must change so that they can improve; And in order to change, the whales and dolphins have to change their approach, and start supporting more to people like you and me, who make a daily effort to interact and create quality content on these platforms.

Until that happens, we minnows have a very difficult time growing in HIVE and LeoFinance (if we manage to grow at all); but as a counterpart, these platforms will also have a very difficult time to become truly successful.

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Lol, I stopped using Hive seriously a long time ago. My latest posts are on a frontend that posts here, but isn't quite here. I've given up on that platform as well.

though if you butt in on the wrong topic with the wrong person and all your work will be ignored or demonetized just like on Youtube.

That also depends on how you handle it, just like in real life. I'm not saying it's right, but I still know those who do well despite having upset some whales. They may not get support from those whales, but they still get support from others because they didn't just grumble about the platform as a whole.

I too was disappointed about Kenny, but had he chose to he could still have carried on here. I don't blame him for the choice he made, though, he stuck to his beliefs.

I think early on many of us had ideas of what we thought the platform could be and the freedom of speech it could offer, but there are always those who disagree with what's being said and will try to silence that, if they have the power to do so. That's why I say it's how you play the game. In addition to that, what results you want from the game will influence how you play it. You are still here after nearly 7 years, so you obviously get something from Hive and you are still playing the game in the way that suits you.

General complaining about the platform has a tendency to put everyone off the complainer, because while we understand the problems here, not everyone here is causing them. In fact, the majority aren't, but when someone blanket complains it kind of feels like they're lumping everyone in. In this way they (inadvertently?) end up turning more people on them including those who might have supported them.

I'll admit I don't know what the Leo finance side of things is like as I use it so little. I have heard things on the grapevine though...

Oh, I'm not here in any real capacity and am definitely not the 'go along to get along type.' Hive has only 12000 active users out of 3 million accounts because its flaws outweigh its benefits and has shown it's not the facebook killer nor any other big centralized media platform killer. The decentralized nature of Hive is why it can't find anyone to help it shake those flaws. There's no incentive to fix it.

There is no simple fix to human nature. 😜 😆

It seems simple if you put it that way, @minismallholding, but actually I think it's a much more complex matter than that. What I'm talking about is that it's not just about getting attention here in order to be successful on these platforms; instead you have to receive support from important accounts (such as those of whales and dolphins) to be able to grow; and if they completely ignore you, then you're screwed. But I understand your point. Thanks for comment.

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I have actually come across a few accounts where they regularly get good rewards without any single significantly large votes. Instead they get a lot of smaller votes which add up. They've reached this point by getting to know a lot of people, by being active in communities they like and/or by helping others. Hive is big enough for this to happen now. That said, you may have to be active in a variety of communities. I notice you mainly post in Leo finance and I have heard it's a harder clique to get into. Do you have interests other than finance? You may find things differnt in other communities.