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RE: @jrcornel Being Flagged to Zero!

in LeoFinance3 years ago

I agree downvoting isn't really appropriate in this instance, but for me personally I don't want to support (upvote) anyone who supports Steem in any way. That includes buying/holding the STEEM token, or using the Steem platform. I understand it can be a "cash cow", and if people want to take advantage of that that's up to them, but I won't support them.

This isn't simply an issue of blockchain tribalism. The Steem community/leadership literally stole millions of dollars from people because they didn't like them. It's absolutely unconscionable and unforgivable and it reflects very poorly on anyone who uses it knowing what happened.

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This is the thing too - many of the people who have supported jrcornel since the start, had their Steem stolen - yet it seems to have had no impact on him at all. You would think he would have had some limits considering that they had supported him for so long - but greed knows no bounds.

So you are the person to punish him? (Your name was dropped in the comments of his last post as one of the principles to speak to regarding why this is being done to @jrcornel - if you're not aware that others are dropping your name like that, take a look.)

Punish? He is not being punished. Downvotes are about rewards on the post and as a stakeholder on the platform, I like all others are entitled to use them to direct the inflation pool. Jrcornel has been using his stake to direct the inflation pool to himself for years, while masking the way he does it so other stakeholders support him too.

Now that stakeholders know (and they don't all know yet), they are able to make decisions on better information. If they truly think that what he offers has more value that what he extracts and they are okay with that, they are welcome to upvote. I however, do not believe that it is the case.

"Stay informed"

Okay, so if you think the end result of this is not "punishment", I guess we can leave things at that.

By the way, I remember when @jrcornel was making next to nothing. He's earned every penny of what he's done, and has every right to continue contributing. Spewing out unfounded accusations don't help your case. Perhaps you'll start putting together the documentation to back your claims and justify your punishing him for all those sins . . . oh, but I forgot, you're not punishing.

Just what would you call it?

Spewing out unfounded accusations don't help your case. Perhaps you'll start putting together the documentation to back your claims and justify your punishing him for all those sins . .

Have you the inability to read properly?

These are not unfounded accusations and he has admitted to them in discord. Rather than apologizing and changing his ways, he went straight for the powerdown button, after using the majority of that power to increase his own stake for years on end, through comment voting and farming and multiple alt accounts.

Not only this, he crossposts onto a chain that literally stole millions of dollars from the people who have upvoted him for all of these years for him to earn the stake that he uses to support himself. Crossposting onto Steem, where Steem has user authority means that his posts their rank higher in search engines than Hive, as they have canonical.

do your research yourself.

I'm on HIVE, not Discord. This is HIVE, not Discord.

On HIVE, he has denied your accusations. On HIVE, you haven't listened to him. Your friends limit themselves to calling him a "moron".

That's what I've read on HIVE, which is where we are, and again, where none of your supposed evidence, and "confessions", exist to the best of my knowledge.

Shall we give a name to what you and your small group of friends are doing? Would "inquisition " be appropriate?

Prove me wrong.

You seem to have very little understanding - which surprises me considering your name.

"By the way, I remember when @jrcornel was making next to nothing. He's earned every penny of what he's done, and has every right to continue contributing."

I think your history is a little revised. I remember a jrcornel that spammed comment sections asking for support. I also remember a jrcornel that just happened to join a little group of people that convinced Ned to delegate his 5 million Steem Power to them so that they could enrich themselves under the guise of "quality content" and "curation" and "user retention."

Very few of the pennies he made were "earned."

I've got receipts if you want them.

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how about people who invested in Steem that have lost a lot of money, and want to HODL until the death or break even? This is my situation and whilst im HODLing i might as well use my stake and put it to good use. Im a betting man and i bet and predicted months ago that Steem price will pump this year and ill look for an exit. It looks right on course to me, decent volume, holding close to 50 cents and SBD pumping like crazy. It looks healthy, unlike Steem itself. Hive is healthy, the price and volume garbage. Go figure.

Agree with this, you can actually stop voting him but the flags aren't necessary imo.

And nobody suggests you should support anyone you don't feel comfortable supporting.

But moving from that to forcing others to do as you would is another thing entirely.

This is very bad for HIVE. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that, nor to see that downvoting needs to be eliminated - there will always be bullies and abusers, and if you give them the tool . . .

I see you consistently upvoted @jrcornel, giving the impression that you valued his content. As you know, this group action, based on their own selective criteria which they know not how to express, has downvoted him to zero and basically ruined his existence here on HIVE. As such, I just wanted you to know what one core member of this community had to say about @jrcornel and ask if you still think it’s appropriate not to come to his defence? Really come your own defence? Because not only was that said about him (and it's very representative of the group think, I might add), but it was also said about everyone who valued, curated and upvoted his content.

Yes, that’s how they feel about you too.

Best Regards

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Not sure what I have to come to my defense for. Yes, I do like @jrcornel's work, but I don't want to support someone who supports Steem. That's all there is to it. It's just like if there was an artist or actor whose work I like but who supports something or does something that I am against, then I may choose not to support them and buy their work.

I stated in my original reply that I don't personally think he should be downvoted, but I don't see anything wrong with choosing not to support someone who supports an organization that stole millions of dollars from people I am close to (among other things).

That's so weak. "Someone who supports Steem." Even if it were true, it's weak. And when you hide behind something that is total hearsay, it's worse than weak. I know you've got a brain, and I'll leave it to you to self-classify.

On the other hand, you ask what you need to self-defend . . .

Good luck.

It's not hearsay, he's confirmed that he holds a significant amount of STEEM and uses the platform, which helps to support it. You may think that is "weak", and you're more than welcome to support him or whoever else you want. I don't see why my decision to stop supporting him is really any concern of yours anyway.

Okay, now that you've decided to play cop, judge and executioner, and the crime is "supporting STEEM", here's a couple of names for you to treat the same, that are just as guilty of the same, that is unless you are inconsistent, weak, and totally lame. Let's see what you're really made of. My money's not on you. ;-(

@arizcon and his alter-egos: @ranchorelaxo, @bdvoter and @haejin

Have fun tough guy.

NOT.

WEAK. LAME Fuck. You know it. That's what's important.

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I don't see why my decision to stop supporting him is really any concern of yours anyway.

Oh, uh, duh, it's that word "community" that you and your pals throw around, by the looks of things, quite loosely.

You must be feeling so incredibly strong . . .

If you don't know how to do the right thing, the best thing is to just shut up and hope . . .

Lol, now I know you're totally nuts. I'm "cop, judge, and executioner" because I stopped upvoting someone's posts? I never said it was a crime to support Steem, just that I won't support those who choose to. And yes, I will definitely stop supporting anyone else who I currently support via upvotes if I find out they are also supporting Steem. I don't upvote or support any of those accounts you tagged.

You seem to be freaking out, calling me names, and acting like a child, because I stopped upvoting someone. Pretty pathetic. I can see from your other comments that you're just one of these nuts and there's no point in trying to have a reasonable conversation with you.

Go ahead and post your next ridiculous reply since I know you need to have the last word.

You are an active part of the ruining of someone's blogging on HIVE.



Did you get that already?

Whether you want to admit it or not.

Like I said, you'd be better served shutting up.

And yes, I will definitely stop supporting anyone else who I currently support via upvotes if I find out they are also supporting Steem.

I just gave you their names. How lame can you get?

At least my characterizations are accurate and fit the facts.

And, no I don't need to have the last word; you're totally free to completely melt down now.

Edit: I forgot to add to have fun building for a niche market . . . you can imagine what your niche is going to be, right?

A name to add: the 2nd part of that Dynamic Duo you do support.

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Pathetic. That's the adjective that most appropriately describes HIVE's current leadership. Simply pathetic.

And don't get me going. Think about all those other things we could talk about that takes us to that same destination . . .

. . . but if you were to start somewhere, I guess getting some basic dignity might be just about the best place ever.

Good luck.