Has anyone tried to sell their STEEM and buy HIVE? I had some moderate success yesterday using the simple but excellent https://ionomy.com but it’s getting harder to get that 90% I was aiming for.
For every 10 STEEM I dump, I was aiming for 9 HIVE in return.
The gap is widening in terms of perceived value between the tokens. STEEM is bumbling along like we are accustomed to, while HIVE is approaching the high 20’s.
Too late for me, @blocktrades is now offering a direct conversion for the impatient. I had already sold some STEEM and it was now BTC by the time I saw the announcement.
The rate is never going to be as good as using manual methods, but that’s what you get for convenience.
Is anyone content to keep their STEEM and double-dip?
The double-dip I refer to is cross-posting your content on both chains. Is it ethical, should we be resolutely loyal to one chain over the other; is this akin to voting up your own comments?
The attitude and comments I’m getting back from the ex-STEEM community is, ‘I don’t give a fuck anymore’.
The scammers are going to cotton on soon that the police have been evacuated from the STEEM streets and looting can commence.
Does anyone care, and should we too refrain from participating in the ‘looting’ in the form of cross-posting?
I don’t do STEEM posts, and yet I find myself writing another darned STEEM post, or HIVE post or BOTH post.
For the moment, I am going to be a lousy looter as I still have a massive STEEM stake. Take it as it comes I say.
Where are the new people coming from now?
What happened to finding that potential new talent?
Both STEEM and HIVE appear closed shop, at least for a while to outsiders.
STEEM accounts are no longer being created by STEEMIT. Being a staunch HIVE person, I really don’t care but how are they going to possibly grow?
There is no equivalent of STEEMIT on HIVE. No HIVEIT, and so that is no longer the entry point for new talent.
When they arrive, they find a warzone of HIVE and anti-STEEM posts (a bit like this one). Did I say I don’t post STEEM related content?
Let me rephrase, ‘I rarely post STEEM related content’
The Gains and the Losses
Steem-auto is now Hive-vote, but it is having some teething problems. Given this is the auto-voter used by nearly everyone I have to applaud @mahdiyari for his work in getting it into place.
Please consider giving him your witness vote. He's been doing better since leaving STEEM but given the massive use of his FREE product, he should be a lot higher on the witness chart.
SteemWorld is likely never going to be converted as @steemchiller did not get his HIVE tokens. I won't go into the politics of all this, but I am really going to miss this awesome utility.
The only way I can see my outgoing votes is by using HiveExplorer. It’s clunky and comes nowhere near what SteemWorld used to show me.
For the record, I’m sad that the chain has split. I invested a lot of money in STEEM, and I am fortunate that I did get the HIVE drop.
For the moment we can see it as a double stake but I will be powering down ALL my STEEM and selling it.
If you found this article so invigorating that you are now a positively googly-eyed, drooling lunatic with dripping saliva or even if you liked it just a bit, then please upvote, comment, resteem, engage me or all of these things.
I'm cross-posting... but I write first on HIVE then just dump it on STEEM. Already I'm seeing low content posts and the old link spamming comments where people don't bother to read. In many ways, it is sad to see how it is going... I'm also going to miss Steemworld a lot, I think that extended blacklist was a bit of a sad start to Hive.
There are some blatant spam posts going on STEEM, I won't do it but won't look down on others that do. There is a lot of bitterness about what has happened. We didn't want this, more was forced into doing it.
I think we should focus on making HIVE better, rather than trashing STEEM. It is a bit petty... it would be pretty horrible if someone else did it here as well. We should hold the high moral ground, and that sort of thing just throws it away.
If you want jive to have the best SEO. Make a post linking to hive on steem than 7 days later make the post on steem. Again linking hive at the end.
This is what is recommended for SEO when post from personal blog to hive
Hmmm... I will have to think about that! Thanks for the advice!
I have not done anything with my STEEM or HIVE yet... Will check I out on my laptop tomorrow...
1-1 sounds like a good deal. Then again, if you can get 2.5K sats for Steem, then it might be worth waiting a few months until that 100 million Hive in the HDF starts hitting the market, that'll bring the price down in the medium term, probably?
Also once all the hype dies down and people realize this place is basically just Steem, more downward pressure on the price.
I'm finding Steem to be a great outlet for my new creative poetry streak, please do check some of it out...
https://steempeak.com/@revisesociology
LOL, I saw your poetry..., we all need that outlet I say!
Personally I think it's wasted on Steem!
Haha.. I used to be able to play the start of 'Alone' on the keyboards. It was mostly on black keys and a good show-off!
sorry.. cross replying! HA!
Didn't realize I was on steem.. that's gonna be something for me to watch for.. since so many people are duplicating posts..
I want to see how the steem story ends.. With the stability issues, I can't imagine it's going to be a great ending..
Well, maybe I mean here happy. Messy can be great if it's a magnificent disaster!
I did one cross post, and now with ionomy, I am thinking about powering down and selling all my steem also. I did make my first trade ever and it was pretty simple, I only got 8 hive for my 10 steem, but the gap is widening. I still try to visit steem and vote,still voting on all the cross over post of the people I follow, but I am also hitting the created list and going down and somewhat randomly voting people.
There is a lot of anger, people are upset over the whole affair, I am trying to take that into account. I'm still up in the air though on a full power down, I did have a five year plan, but that got broke when I sold my first steem, so a re-think is in order, but it is still less than a week, I still need to evaluate the direction things are going to take.
You did well, look now.. 17c - 30c. The 80% opportunity is gone!
We all did well out of this if we got the drop. Look at it as FREE tokens.
That is true of both sets of token for me, it pretty much is all FREE, except for the time. SO Still pretty pleased. I am not sure if I will continue on steem side yet or not, it would be nice to reach my year end goals for steem, which is now impossible. I wanted to get to 20,000 comments, and since I will not be commenting much over there, not a chance of that happening now. It will be interesting to see where I end comment wise on Hive at the end of the year though. A lot to see, read and comment on here now verse on steem. I'm not looking for balance between steem and Hive, just not enough time for both.
Cross posting for now. Going to see what 'engagement' is like for a bit, then probably fuck off to the hive chain and forget about steem (sad really)
I will cross for a while. When my STEEM stake is small, I may stop. It's double work TBH, replying on both chains, though I get more comments on Hive.
How people are conducting themselves at this time, is a window to how they will conduct themselves here when they are unhappy or do not get there way.
People should pay close attention.
I'm finding it a PITA keeping an eye on the activity of both chains. If this Corana business was not happening and I was not isolated I would not have the time for it all. Be safe @whatsup.
I'll be selling my Steem too, but I fear the value will plummet. As things are going I may better off anyway. I'd just love to get to orca level this year.
I may do the odd post on Steem. I'll probably get votes there, so why not. I'd just rather be adding value to Steem.
The Hive tools will come. We just need to support the developers.
It may be lots trying to get Hive due to the first power-down. That was my case and I have now sold all that STEEM and filled the HIVE orders, and powered up.
This is the most I have ever had. 100,000 HIVE seems a good target to aim for over the next few weeks.
All the delegations were pulled but once things have settled again, I will be supporting projects like before.
I just tried a small conversion of Steem to Hive with blocktrades. Rate is 0.64 right now. Better than nothing. Still got a couple of days before first power down comes through. I'd hope I can add a few thousand Hive over the next few weeks.
It's getting worse, I got over 80% back in HIVE. You can do better if patient.
What do you expect? The buzz is with Hive now. Not sure why @coingecko cannot display a market cap for it. The number of tokens should be known.
They should, where would it be in the rankings? Less tokens than STEEM but a greater value would have it in maybe the top 50?
For now I might be doubling unless its hive specific content. Why not? Regardless gonna sell all the steem and turn it into hive.
I might forget about steem all together but for now I feel merciless.
I mentioned Hive-vote but it's still not working as I type. People are inherently lazy and as you know most votes come from this. It needs to start working or the post count will decrease.
I still get more votes on STEEM, than on HIVE, but all the comments are now on HIVE.
Maybe we need to NOT use services like hive vote and learn to manually upvote and read the content IMO
If I had limitless time, I would.
I do cross posting but for Hive the first. I dunno what for the next. I just saw another user do that
There's many cross-posting and it does feel a little 'dirty'. I'll do it for the moment, but things may change.
I answered a lot of your questions here, the other day. But that's just me.
Exclusive content is more valuable, to both the platform it's on, and the publisher. If folks are posting everywhere, there's no point in me leaving this space.
The old girlfriend analogy made me smirk! It is so tempting to double-dip but does feel dirty.
We have our differences about auto-voters but I will say when hive-vote works and proves itself (it's fucked right now), then I will refrain from posting on STEEM, but will still curate until my stake is zeroed.
Music posts (though nobody reads or listens to them), real-life stories (these seem to be semi-popular) and Urbex (my bread and butter), is primarily my content.
Back to the real content from tomorrow, or when I can be bothered to write more.
I'll still throw in the odd platform commentary from time to time. I'd much sooner focus on humor and art though. Both of which aren't easy to accomplish on a regular basis, which is why I like to keep the door open and let other thoughts in. I don't have a problem with auto votes as long as people are visiting and consuming the content. No point in writing jokes if nobody is laughing and spending a day on art is pointless if nobody looks.
I'm looking forward to this brave new world though; hoping for a future.
Music in the form of digital busking used to be popular in the early days on steem. I hope that comes back. It was awesome to browse around and see live performances daily.
I hope they don't turn this place into another vote selling disaster. That's my biggest fear right now.
Speaking of which... this post.. lots of comments. STEEM / HIVE content always provoked them, but it's still not a reason for me to lean on doing more.
I missed those days... regrets...
This was something I was going to add to the post. My DV is at 100% on both chains and will remain there on STEEM.
HIVE is not going to be for long. I will start flagging again soon, I'm sure the unwelcome new arrivals have already started the crap again. @meesterboom we need to check out what our old friend boomerang is up too!
Lol @slobberchops. It's funny you should say that. Boomerang has not started up so quickly. I noticed a few of them haven't. They will but the change seems to have caught them out.
bot-api, on the other hand never missed a beat and that dick apon is churning em out and botting em
Ah.. you saw those $2 comments?, just flagged 3 of them.
I'm flagging em all th now. The guy is a serial abuser of bots. He was really sneaky on steemit, waiting till 6.5 days were up and the like
What we all have in common is the platform so it's easy to talk about. What's annoying is when the internal memos are trending constantly. Trending should be a naturally occurring wide variety. @joshman has a good policy of voting with a lower percentage when it comes to this content. We don't all need to be up on center stage just to talk about things.
And yes I've already been out looking at the 'new' section, scrolling for art frauds to downvote. Haven't found one yet though.
Good to hear, and whats more that you are being active about it!
Hey dude 👋
Yeah, I've already used ionomy to sell steem and buy hive. There is a lot of up and down in a range on hive/btc so I'm gonna play the range for a bit and then power up my hive profits :)
P.s. I'm also having teething troubles with Hive-vote it's not voting everyone I've got on my list. Lol, it didn't vote this post and I set a % on you about a month ago.
Things take time I guess.
Very complex question for me. Have you seen The Ink Well yet? It's a fiction and poetry community I built single highhandedly in a crazy 10 day period of high energy mode. Well, curie sponsored us with their community vote, and curie are still curating on steem, but OCD also support us and c-squared and they're both on hive only. So for me, and the ink well community members, it has to be a double dip to gain the full value for their posts. I would like to see curie come to hive to be honest. It would make my life 100% easier 😉
The spread is quite large on there! If you are patient you can make some extra by playing the BTC/HIVE pair. I'm an impatient bastard so don't fall into the category!
It feels dirty, but I’m cross posting as I powerdown. I may also start posting lower quality content to drain the rewards pool to stick it to the man. It feels really dirty, but I’m not gong to knock it.
it does, that's why I wanted to ask everyone's opinion about it. Not everyone has the same viewpoint.
You got my juices flowing ... HIVE LIVE JIVE
I thought I’d done my last Steem blockchain post, and posted as much, but have since posted there anyway. But I’m not really cross-posting. “Regular” posts on Hive, low-content #milk posts on Steem. Maybe not very ethical but since #steemhostiletakeover is a done deal, it just doesn’t seem like home anymore. SteemWorld has been indispensable to me. Not even sure how I’ll keep track of my delegations in the Hiveverse.
You can delegate via PeakD, but it's not as intuitive as SteemWorld. Many of us are going to miss it until someone makes an alternative.
I've been posting a daily photo on Steem along with a sentence or two and a generous selfvote. After less than a week, it's absurd to predict the price movement or trend. We need to see the underlying value and what the big accounts think.
You and I both have a decent stake but at the end of the day, it's the people buying 1000s a day who sey the price. Justin is a wealthy man and stumbled upon an excellent blockchain. He has effectively removed witnesses and developers who could take up to 20% of rewards plus their inter-voting. Now that he has achieved total control, who knows what he is capable of.
Don't be so quick to flee to another chain with new masters. All that stake and more (steemchiller et al) is sitting in the Dao and it ain't gonna flow to you or me. There are other issues with Hive, I'm not too fond of the cease and desist order for copying the name of an existing company in same sphere.
It is, many are dumping STEEM and buying HIVE. This will be showing in the stats.
Same witnesses as before. They are not perfect but don't lie to us.
I will be buying at least one Ice Cream with my ill-gotten tokens. Got to have some good things in life eh?
Nice write up. Thanks for all of this info. I actually haven't been keeping up with Steem too much. I jump over there to collect my rewards, but that is about it. I don't really have the time to focus on multiple chains. I am still working on STS which is still on Steem for now, but I have a feeling they will move one way or the other in the future. I read Dlike is staying on Steem so hopefully that will keep some of the spam off Hive and maybe it will help Steem grow.
I don't blame you for keeping away. Keeping up with two chains is more like work. I have not been posting as much as usual, and only properly reading the odd post. You can't read all of them.
Yeah, I just realized that there are people still posting on both and that is just a huge time suck for me to jump back and forth :)
That's weird. I don't remember voting this! Is the auto vote thing working? Did it carry over existing votes?
It's working somewhat, or maybe it's a delayed vote. I'm not sure yet. The settings have all be moved over from steem-auto. Things are slowly getting back to normal.
Wow, that is good. I tried logging in but got nowhere
Well I haven’t been cross posting but I’ve been using both. Reggaesteem still points to steem ( that will change soon but I’d prefer it point to both). I also use appics that still points to steem. I say double dip as people see fit, noting is promised and nothing lasts forever. Long live steem ... I mean hive.. I really think they both can flourish, steem for quick “normal social media posts and hive for long form. Anything goes on steem ( expect hive stuff lol) and on hive you gotta be more cautious as it’s the watch dogs are around.
I'll be watching to see what unfolds. I don't want to make predictions as they generally don't come true!
Please how can I really buy hive with my steem.
Maybe it is high time one move to hive