My Thoughts about Hive & Steemit

in Project HOPE4 years ago

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I'll get straight to the point.
These are my impressions about HIVE a few hours after its official launch.

Many things are happening and very fast.
Maybe we don't have time, calm and concentration to assimilate all the events in the best way.
So I will try to be very punctual so that I can identify each aspect and approach it in the best way. Please, would you share your impressions about the following points?

  1. Tools are needed.

    • We need the equivalent of Steemd.
      Estabamos acostumbrados a administrar nuestro poder de voto para no llegar a
      niveles muy bajos. Entonces necesitamos una herramienta que permita
      monitorearlo.

    • We need the Steemauto equivalent.
      Curation trails have so far been unable to take off on Hive, due to the lack of
      a monitoring tool. As promised, by the time of the fork, all delegation settings
      would remain intact, so presumably the trails will continue to function the same
      as in steemit. But there is still no tool to verify and manage the votes of the
      curation trails.
      OMG, I miss Steemworld!!!

    • It would be very practical to have the equivalent of Steem Keychain.
      This tool is not preferred by all users, many still use the steemconnect.
      I started using Keychain and I liked it. I must not be remembering or copying my
      keys every time I go to make a transaction. Currently the version of this tool
      has not been developed for Hive. There is the possibility of enabling it through
      the use of the github,
      but the procedure is very cumbersome. I prefer to wait for the official launch.
      (Note: https://hivesigner.com/ is the equivalent of steemconnect.)


  1. Accessing the wallet from the hive.blog interface does not work.
    This option tries to access https://hive.io/wallets// but the result is:

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Fortunately, wallet can be accessed through https://peakd.com/
Peakd es la versión de Steempeak para Hive.

Anyway...
Details are still being fine-tuned, but the blockchain is active and users are using it. It is generating blocks.

Let's talk about money

STEEM value remains stable. Hive isn't on the exchanges yet, but this is a matter of hours. I imagine that HIVE will start with an initial value higher than STEEM, I estimate that it could be around 1 usd.

The value of HIVE will depend on the acceptance of the community.
If users keep their HIVE, and even if they increase their stake, or if instead they will sell it on the exchanges.

Currently there are not many possibilities to trade Hive. But relying on the promise made by @blocktrades in its post, i'm sure this will be fixed soon.

The only exchange that Hive has already listed is IONOMY.
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You can check this link: https://ionomy.com/en/markets/btc-hive
Although in my first impression of this exchange I could notice that the prices it manages are well below the prices that we can see in Coingecko.

We also have the good news that Bittrex will include Hive in the next few hours.

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The value of STEEM will depend on the next actions that Justin takes.

There is a possibility that Justin Sun may have bought tons of HIVE. This could give him enough voting power to have a notable influence on Hive. Although the vote for witnesses in Hive, was conditioned to a waiting time of 30 days. This gives current witnesses a margin of protection to prevent further attacks on governance.

Justin's actions will define the future of STEEMIT.
Assuming the possibility that it was the witnesses who prevented Justin from expressing himself since his arrival at Steemit. Now, he would have a free way to grow Steemit (Assuming these are his true plans).

But let's analyze these facts:

Recently censorship began to be applied on Steemit.
We can verify this with a visit to the blog of @blocktrades through the Steemit interface. All posts disappeared. However you can see them on Steempeak.

These censorship actions are being backed by a legality signal by including new guidelines in the Steemit Terms of Service.
https://steemit.com/tos.html

Please take a look at the following point:

14.1.7. Use our services to promote third-party platforms or to promote each other without our written permission.

Based on this, none of us can promote the Hive platform or any other platform on Steemit. Since this would be reason for the total suspension of our account.


Do you think these actions would benefit Steemit's future?



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 4 years ago  

I my friend I think that we will have all these things very quickly. Check out my post. I've listed all the addresses on hive that correspond to the old steem apps:
https://peakd.com/hive/@achim03/hive-the-new-addresses-you-need-to-know

There is also a tutorial how to install keychain for hive:
https://hive.blog/hive/@themarkymark/how-to-install-hive-keychain

 4 years ago  

Thank you for sharing these valuable links.
I appreciate it.

It would be very practical to have the equivalent of Steem Keychain.

Considering that even those who want to leave will need 13 weeks to power down we need a universal keychain which can serve both Hive and Steem.

 4 years ago  

Wow, a universal keychain!
I had not thought of it.

Thanks for comment, dear friend.

BTW, I'm working on the Ruby libraries so they can work
with both chains. And write a tutorial as i go along:

https://peakd.com/hive-175254/@krischik/using-steem-api-with-ruby-part-19

Excellent post my friend. That censorship scares me. Maybe that will help me decide to stay in Hive for good.

 4 years ago  

Censorship will be what will end up killing Steemit.

That's totally right!

hello @juanmolina

All this has me very entangled and worried, especially because I work from the phone only and this whole process is very complicated and tedious for me.
You raise many important things, I want to tell you that at the time of writing this answer, @capybaraexchange is changing, I made it and @orinoco I think also, in addition to other Venezuelan people there. I hope this will give more peace to the Venezuelan people who are worried about it.
I am waiting for them to launch an android app for me, because for now I have to do everything for peakd.com.
I will be attentive to the movements that Justin makes, because that depends on the future of steemit.

Excellent post, I really liked it.

 4 years ago  

Brother: Esteem migrated to Hive. They have an interface for Android.
Here is the link. Try it.
https://esteem.app/about#downloads

Te respondo en español:

yo uso e-steem , de hecho estoy escribiendo está respuesta en ella, la cosa es que hay que cambiar el nodo a rpc.esteem para poder votar en Hive y también loguearse sin steemconnect porque sino no sirve la app.
No lo tengo muy claro pero para usar esteem con steemit creo que hay que hacer lo mismo pero cambiando el nodo a api.steemit .
Ojalá este comentario aclare la duda de muchos.


On English:

I use e-steem, in fact I am writing this answer using it, the thing is that you have to change the node to rpc.esteem to be able to vote in Hive and also log in without steemconnect because otherwise the app does not work.
I am not very clear about it, but to use steem with steemit I think you have to do the same but changing the node to api.steemit.
Hopefully this comment clarifies the doubt of many

 4 years ago  

Suena complicado.

you have touched a lot of important topics, especially the one with problems with checking wallet

I am also worried about games and other dapps migration. Also if there will be a equivalent of SBI shares.

 4 years ago  

I am convinced that we will gradually see the migration of all the Dapps.

 4 years ago  

Hive coin is already listed on Coingecko:

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/hive

It is unfortunate that @steemchiller took inadvisable actions supporting Sun Yuchen's centralization of the blockchain, but after I personally discussed them with him and was unable to convince him to change his mind, I had to acknowledge that he was free to do as he wished.

Steemworld is a fine app, and @steemchiller a good coder. However, he demonstrated support for centralization both in deed and word, and remained committed to that course despite numerous and passionate entreaties. No app is worth sacrificing our freedom of speech, and Steemworld was convenient, but not necessary.

Not all people wish to be free. Not everyone wants to rationally consider facts and make reasonable decisions. Some people cannot be counted on to defend you from attack, no matter what words they may speak, or gifts they may give, and @steemchiller has demonstrated that in the life and death struggle we are in to ensure we can speak forthrightly and hear the honest words and existentially important information our fellows convey thereby, he is not prepared to defend that freedom, and our very lives that depend on factual information provably being censored across the world today are threatened with insipid lies and misinformation.

I'm not here because I'm writing love poems or looking at pics of silly cats. I have been beaten in the street by thugs serving corrupt government agents, and my sons' lives threatened. I do not exaggerate when I say that free speech is a matter of life and death. Did the WHO and the enemedia speak truth when they recommended keeping flights from Wuhan landing around the world last month? How many will die because they believe lies about deadly disease stalking us all today?

In balance the convenience of Steemworld is utterly lacking weight compared to our lives, freedom, and treasure. @steemchiller chose his path, and I will not rely on him to stand beside me and defend my sacred right to the truth. It is plainly obvious what allowing Sun Yuchen to control governance of Steem has done to freedom of speech and the facts only possible to learn from our honest peers speaking truthfully upon which our lives and families depend for survival itself.

If anyone trusts @steemchiller after he has deliberately sought to eliminate our access to the truth by supporting totalitarian despotism on Steem, they are making a potentially deadly mistake.