More words that we learn..

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More Words

It is common knowledge that as we learn a new language our vocabulary improves with time. There are a lot of study on the subject and we can test something similar, AKA our writing prowess using hive blockchain. @holoz0r created this new tool called Hiver Report Card, where I can easily check over the years how many unique words I have written.

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Obviously this is not similar to learning a new language (but we will get to that too), but this only shows perhaps how many new topics I am touching. I am not entirely sure that my English writing skills have improved a lot over the last seven years, but it certainly shows that I am perhaps more sagacious towards new topics. Looks like I had a growth period during 2020s during the covid lockdown, but that flattened a bit during 2023-24. Yet, during 2025, I can see a rejuvenation in my writing. I can see that in the frequency and also in the depth of writing in the following plots below.

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In 2025, not only I am writing more, but I am also writing longer posts on various topics. That is the main reason of more unique words in my writing.

New Language

Language study is highly data driven. The global language learning market, encompassing apps, online platforms, in-person courses, and educational tools, was valued at approximately USD 62-64 billion in 2024. This includes both traditional and digital segments, with the online language learning subset alone estimated at around USD 22 billion in 2024, projected to grow to USD 55 billion by 2030 at a CAGR of about 16-20%. Growth drivers include rising demand for multilingual skills in global business, travel recovery post-pandemic, and AI-enhanced apps. The EdTech-specific portion for languages is smaller but booming, at USD 11.7 billion in 2024, expected to reach USD 125 billion by 2034. Key players like Duolingo dominate the digital space (which is also the largest publicly traded company in the space), but the market is fragmented with a mix of freemium apps, subscription-based platforms, and enterprise solutions.

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So the reason, I was looking into this is because I am learning Japanese now and my kids are learning French. I remember doing this in the past (not Japanese, but Spanish), and during those days Babel and Rosetta Stone were popular. Nonetheless, during 2020, Duolingo saw a meteoric rise, and took over all competition. The global lockdowns starting in March 2020 triggered a massive surge: new user sign-ups doubled in March alone, with a 101% increase in learners and a 108% jump in global registrations from March 9-30 (148% in the US). This aligned with people seeking productive hobbies, mental stimulation, and skill-building during isolation—Duolingo reported 30 million new users in the weeks following the WHO's pandemic declaration on March 11, 2020. By year-end 2020, cumulative downloads hit 500 million, up 30% YoY, and revenue more than doubled to $161 million (a 106% increase from 2019's $78 million), fueled by heightened app engagement and premium subscriptions.

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How hard is a new language?

For any adult this is an open ended question. I started the post with vocabulary, but I will add motivation to it. Most of the studies that I have seen assumes at least 40 study hours per month for a working adult. That may not sound a lot for some, but trust me it is a lot. Especially, if you are doing it consistently. I think this is the most strong point of Duolingo. It forces you to study every day. The content will not make you proficient just by itself, but if you are interested, it will keep you going.

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Now the trouble is Japanese. It is considered one of the hardest language to master for a English speaking adult. Notice, in a year of regular study, your Spanish or French vocabulary can be in the 4000+, but you could be lucky to get 2000 or 3000 words of Japanese (Japanese red curve and Mandarin orange curve are right on top of each other). Also I am told that with 4000 words of Spanish you could be 'proficient' in Spanish, but same can't be said for Japanese with 2000 words. Obviously just learning words is not equivalent to learning the whole language. There are many other aspect to it, like grammar, speaking, reading and writing proficiencies. That just muddies the water even more.

New Community I found

Thanks to @dbooster 's previous post, I have found the cross culture community, which doesn't seem very active, but I think we maybe able to change that. Such a nice thought about a community when it was created.

Final thought: My Japanese vocabulary is probably about 60 right now, after 15 days of study. I know that is not a lot, but I didn't miss a single day yet! Phew!

JapaneseRomajiEnglish
こんにちはkonnichiwahello (daytime)
さようならsayonaragoodbye
おはようございますohayou gozaimasugood morning
こんばんはkonbanwagood evening
ありがとうarigatouthank you
すみませんsumimasenexcuse me / sorry
はいhaiyes
いいえiieno
はじめましてhajimemashitenice to meet you
どうぞdouzoplease (offering)

Yes, I can say all these. How much in a sentence and with good pronunciation? Phew!! Please don't ask these difficult questions!

There you have it! Wish me luck!! I do eat pasta every week! And I also know how to ask, where is the toilet? :) :)

すみません、トイレはどこですか

No idea when someone answers!! :)

But.........

すし と みず ください

You will only know this if you have done duolingo and cried!! :) :)

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Speaking of learning Japanese, it reminds me of something that happened years ago..

Our company once had a meeting with Sony Ericsson staff. At the beginning, the two teams walked toward each other and exchanged introductions.

To show respect for our Japanese counterparts, we all introduced ourselves in Japanese.

I remember that at the time I said:

こんにちは、孟XXです。
初めまして。よろしくお願いします。

As our teams walked toward each other, I kept repeating the same self-introduction to everyone I met. Then I came across a young man — I had just started my line when he suddenly interrupted me:

我是中国人,我叫李X。

He completely broke the pattern, and I was caught off guard. I mechanically finished the rest of my memorized sentence, then my face turned bright red with embarrassment.

Thanks for the additional mention. I'm really happy with what I have built. The active / passive voice and adverb features provided insight into my own writing. I now think more about consciously writing in the active voice.

Worth considering that this vocab count doesn't take into account your comments. I do my best to strip out things like html tags and so on. I wonder, what was your most used word?

My top word is "time" and my second word is "more".

Marky's word cloud disabled some common words, you may want to consult him.

We had a chat previously about stop word lists and strategies. We are playing in similar playgrounds. He's on the high monkeybars, I'm much closer to the ground :)

What amazing tools here my life complete in hive.

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I'd like to think I have become a better writing since I started here on HIVE. I fee like it anyway, and my wife has me proof read all her stuff for work.

Yes, that is the intent for all of us. But how do we measure it? That is the problem.

I remember a long time ago at my job we were talking about getting a new assessment and datawarehouse solution. The big question we asked at the beginning was how do we measure student achievement. Sadly, I don't think we ever answered that question because there are so many factors and ultimately it is quite subjective.

60 words in 15 days seems pretty good to me.

すし と みず ください

haha. Very useful! The reply you receive would probably be:

そうですね!にほんごをじょうずですね!

すし と みず ください

You know, I now understand why the Japanese are suicidal! It's the damn language! :) :)

I can pronounce a few of those words thanks to watching One Piece with subtitles, but in original language 😅 Or at least I think I can pronounce them. Not many Japanese speakers around to try here.

I'm always on the lookout for new words to learn, especially in English and Spanish. It's hard to implement them, though, as by now most of them are synonyms or only have a slight variation in meaning to words that I already use, and am used to. That makes it harder for me to remember to use the new ones. Reading helps with that, as one becomes more acquainted with the proper implementation of certain words into both writing and speaking. But that is way down the road.

I'm not making much progress on my Polish lessons. I can speak a few sentences, but I do not give it priority, so the learning curve is somewhat flat at the moment. Maybe that'll change one day.

I can only do about 30-60 min per day.

That's a lot more than I commit. Not sure how Japanese is in comparison to polish, but at least I don't have to learn a whole new set of letters.

I started Japanese at least 3 times, with various results. Once I was just learning conversational, once Duoling and once caligraphy and letters. I may start again soon as I plan a trip to Japan in the next 2 years.

So difficult.

You mean you learnt 60 Japanese vocabulary in 15 days and you say it isn't much? 🤔🤔

Nice to see this and I quite like the new tool created by @holoz0r. Since inspecting my own report (and the word cloud), I've attempted to be more deliberate about utilizing more unique words. Occasionally, I use thesaurus.com to help me think of more creative words.

Here is my current vocabulary growth chart. It's far from your 16,000 cumulative, but getting there 😀

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こんばんは and thanks for posting in this community, and good timing, as I just announced I'd start trying to revive it.

In my experience learning Japanese and Mandarin, anything works if you adjust it to fit your goals and review words and grammar until it's second nature, and the more fun it is for you, the easier it is to motivate yourself to do that. The internet makes it way easier to find the answer yourself (although it may not be 100% natural, useful and imperfect is better than nothing). If I used duolingo (or any similar app), I'd write down some patterns and make my own sentences with them.

すし が すき です か?  This is a good simple grammar pattern to learn, I use it every single day!
がんばって ね!   And a good phrase, one of the most common in every day life.