LEO At $10? $20? $30?

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Think this outlandish? Many are wondering where the price can get to.

Leofinance is offering an interesting perspective into what is possible. These numbers are in line with what can unfold in the next couple years.

In this video I discuss how breaking out of a mindset will help us to see Leofinance in a much different light. Instead of looking at it as a token or even a website, think....


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Great video as always. Pro tip: watch this dude in 2x speed. All the awesome video in half the time 🥳

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Great point especially since I try to speak slowing and articulate what I am saying.

So speeding it up could be very helpful.

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@taskmaster4455 Please, keep speaking slowly and in an articulate way so that not English native speaking people like me can understand you. Thank you!

Fully agree. You are doing gr8, taskmaster 😃

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That is the reason I do it. I know that not everyone can understand my accent so I try to keep it as clear as possible.

I am glad you like the videos.

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The sky is the limit for LEO. We got really lucky with our initial distribution and those who are involved with the project right now. If we all bring a little value to the network we all win big. Network effect is powerful.

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True, it is necessary to hold on to a strong team and possibly not sell everything to the first pump 😔

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The network effect, while small right now, does indeed seem very powerful. We have a great core that is intent on helping to build and grow this place. It is wonderful to witness.

I agree that people are going to be surprised at the levels LEO reaches. There is so much happening as well as ideas on the table that we are seeing massive changes in just a few months.

That is not something we are accustomed to.

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I give a lot of credit to the team behind LEO for its success and quite happy to see that for the moment users on here are decent in behavior, not much spam, quite genuine interaction and circle jerking seems to be under control as well... Hence I give LEO big chances to grow.

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I have thought about the possibility of these higher prices and I feel it is a very good possibility. If this were to happen a lot of us would be able to live off curation. It would be a dream come true and would make an awesome life.

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For this reason you have to keep LP in your wallet and not be tempted by the SELL button when LEO reaches a good price ✌️

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I have some liquid that will be for that purpose but most is staked.

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It will be exciting to see the wealth and lives that are changed if these numbers start to get hit. Fortunes could be made which will change the outlook for a lot of people.

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It would also be a moral slap in the face for all those who mocked us when we talked to them about cryptocurrencies.

I look forward to that day, I will have to visit some friends 😏

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Yes well few can see trends and project into the future. Sadly, they are stuck in what they know only.

That is why so few attain the big success. Always remember, the masses are usually wrong (or at least late to the game).

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I see no reason why you couldn't be right... IF — and this is a significant "if" — the growth is allowed to happen more or less organically, on a longer term basis. I know from personal experience (predating Steem and most of the cryptosphere) what can happen when a promising venue "gets ahead of itself" and tries to hit the big time, with the primary result being a FLOOD of new users whose sole purpose is to milk the rewards while adding nothing of value. Saw this happen in 2014 to a "social media that pays" site, and they went straight down the tubes a few months after being all over the news... and took something like $30 million worth of Angel Funding and VC dollars with them.

Part of LeoFinance's significance is also as a model for other communities... not so much to be copied, as just to serve as an example of what CAN be done.

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Very wise thoughts.
It is important to clearly show all those "milkers" (from their very first day), that LeoFinance is a wrong place for them.
Copy-pasters, plagiarists, BS posters, TAG spammers. Not only moderators, dev's, but all of us already have the ammunition against these milkers. And I do not hesitate to use it every day.

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I like to see that people actually give a shit and do something about it. I report a lot of stuff and rarely ever anything happens if I don't do it myself and I can't do anything in most tribes as I don't have the voting power.

I think this is critical for the success of a community, especially one distributing even more tokens than Hive.

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I'm grateful for all these reports on plagiarists and coin milkers @themarkymark, and I'm trying my best to use my power and show those parasites how wrong they are (with their tactics in Leo space). Keep them pointing out, I'll take my part to bring those steeled Leo coins back to reward pool.

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Yes, we do all have that power... but hence also my point about organic growth. If we gradually build a community of genuinely interested users — both creators and consumers — the system can be in balance. The problem — as we somewhat saw back on Steem — with a sudden meteoric rise in the number users, is that we suddenly find ourselves with ten of "them" for every one of "us," and the situation becomes unmanageable.

Short version: Better to have 100,000 dedicated active users in three years, than a million trash users in three months...

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I have high hopes and expectations from LEO and am confident that we won't have a similar faith with the above mentioned social media site that you mentioned above. I sometimes compared leofinance with musing.io in terms of exponential growth but finally realized that there are high differences between the two.

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That's the longest video I watched from you and you'll probably be amazed, but i wished it was longer. I really mean that. You've kind of put out together some visionary pieces that I had in mind regarding LEO, but in a way more accurate way and with a much in depth analysis. Creating news outlets, especially related to the crypto world, and newsletters was always on my mind regarding Hive. I even wrote an article about a year ago about a newsletter for people that don't spent too much time on the chain but would like to be in touch with favorite users and their content.

In regards of the price, I'm expecting a pump when WLEO will be launched, but you were not talking pumps, and I totally get that. You were pointing at long term sustainable growth, or an economy as you called it, and yes I believe it's possible, and you gave the reasons why.

This platform has the raw material to not just generate income for bloggers like me, you and a few hundred others, but for thousands and thousands and there's all sort of businesses that can be built on LEO. There are still crypto influencers that have paid groups, and paid newsletters for their subscribers where the only one getting their content monetized is the author. With Leo such information can be shared for anyone on the platform, curated based on its value, while generating monetized engagement as well.

We are indeed in the early stages of a beautiful shift for the online world, economy, business and social life. To answer your question I do believe LEO can get to as high as $30 and mantain itself at that level. If ETH has managed to hold its price at almsot over $100 no matter whether bull or bear market the past three years, why wouldn't LEO hold at least $10. The possibility to build revenue streams and businesses on LEO is what gives it value and having a total market cap for it of a few hundred millions is quite achievable.

Would probably end up writing a post in your comments section, but my eyes are closing and need to get some sleep. Great post! See ya tomorrow!

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There are so many possibilities and the great thing is they keep expanding. Each day, more is thrown at Khal, meaning his to do list keeps getting longer. There is enough development with LEO to keep the coders busy for another year.

And that is just what has been thought up so far. I am sure the community will keep adding.

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If everything pans out, there is absolutely nothing outlandish about your predictions.

That said, there are a lot of expectations baked into the current price. Going strictly by the current ad revenue, the price of LEO wouldn't probably be much more than it was a couple of months back.

But if we assume ecosystem can become one that has a few million monthly active users - and there are a lot of such websites out there - the token price could easily sustainably go to the double digit dollar range. The liquidity pools will definitely help at getting there because there will be more money help the ecosystem grow. And the one on Uniswap will be just the first of them. What I've understood from the roadmap, wLEO will be on every possible chain out there.

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And the goal is to have sign ins using all other major social media.

So twitter, fb, and Google accounts can sign up just like with Metamask.

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few million monthly active users...

???

Seems you are an insane dreamer. Few mln monthly could bring us 3 digit LEO

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Have you done the math?

A monthly active user is one who uses an app/visits a website at least once a month. A minority of MAUs are active even weekly let alone daily.

Quora has a market cap of $2 billion.

Guess how many MAUs Quora has?

300 million.

Assuming a $2 billion market cap, the price of LEO would be $333.3 at a supply of 6 million. (When/if LeoFinance has millions of monthly active users, the supply will actually most likely to be much higher.)

But we are not talking about 300 million MAUs but maybe 3 million.

Quora turns attention into a cash flow through selling ad space. LeoFinance does the same. If leofinance.io was really effective at monetizing ads on it, it could maybe able to achieve a token value in the low double digits. I hope you're not telling me that most of the inflation wouldn't be sold at that token price because $10 per LEO would definitely be the time to cash in for most early adopters.

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Considering that Seeking Alpha has 15 million MAUs, it is not out of the realm of possibility. There is a lot more going on here than just a website, which is all Seeking Alpha is.

Millions might be a dream but, hey, if going to do it, do it big.

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Now I just regret that I didn't buy LEO for STEEMs at the time I could (steem hardfork). But at least I bought a little about 3 weeks ago. Now I think that even that little was one of my perhaps best investments :-).

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Seems you are not the only one, who regrets. And there will be more. All those who are still selling LEO today.

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Yes, I now that too. Nobody is it alone ;-)

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It is common when an asset takes off. When it goes up, wish I bought more. If it goes down, I bought too much.

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Exactly, but in LEO I think, I did not loose the chance...

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Watched all 18 mins of your vlog and I couldn't agree more with everything you mentioned. A must heard vlog from everyone imo.

PS. First time saw you that excited. Real talk

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It is exciting.

Then there was this:

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Keeps getting better I know

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I see leofinance as Much more, irrespective of the fact that I might not be able to place dollar value on it, I believe it's a project that will offer even more, become more lucrative and attractive for investing. The innovations are coming in really fast and everyday there's always something to cheer about. At this rate we will become priceless in months or years to come

Very realistic until it gets polished and the masses find it. Then you could easily add another zero.

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You are even crazier than I am @oldtimer.

Ah well, we will either be mega wealthy or go down with our delusions.

Either way, we can enjoy the process. 😁

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We also have some real crypto like BTC and ETH, right?
Just in case, hehe.
Wait until dporn take of. I think the supply is just 2M coins.

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We also have some real crypto like BTC and ETH, right?

Got some LTC too.

Wait until dporn take of. I think the supply is just 2M coins.

I am adding some STEM in case Marky pulls something off there.

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So many projects on hive and yet we keep complaining. I'm not to worried because eventually, all will help to grow hive blockchain users and hive token price.

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Very true. Looking very short term.

Look at this one that was just announced. No a tribe but a tool for transactions.

https://leofinance.io/hive-119826/@jongolson/introducing-hivepay-io

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With the slum in HIVE value any my post payouts at all time, I have been trying to diversify my holdings, getting into DCity, and thinking of posting more frequently within this community. I only wish I had more financial related things to discuss, I'm mostly a chef and language teacher. LEO is super promising, always stake everything I get.

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I've been doing my calcs on $0.55 after the WLEO launches, you can see the price running away in anticipation but now with the geyser and change of distribution, we'll see more liquidity to get more people in and out so who knows where this price can run up to.

I also think price is a fugazi, but it is fun to speculate, I think that its also forming at the right time with BTC ready to pop to the upside it could be a double whammy wave. If I think back to our the last wave took steem up to $8 and made a few people made an absolute killing I can see it happening again with LEO but even bigger

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Yeah and the token distribution is much tighter than STEEM was. With under 6 million, this means that a big run still carries a small market cap.

I also think price is a fugazi, but it is fun to speculate

I agree. That is why it is important to show there is something behind the price. Crypto is filled with projects that run in price yet there is nothing to them.

With Leofinance, there is a solid base use case forming with many people starting to benefit.

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I think thats the key missing in crypto finding a balance between the price, utility and creating a functional economy its a tough toss up, because if you focus on one you tend to let the other drop

Well two of them require development which is slow in coming. This is not only true for Hive. Look at how long it is taking Cardano and Ethereum 2.0 to roll out.

We have been hearing about them for years.

That is the pace things go at unfortunately.

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There will alwsys peak and bottom. the wallet holders are the real assey of the token. When there is high demand , leo price will pump. let"ser how is the wleo performance in the matket. Recently, leo will be $1 is a great achievement

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Any token can go as high as its vision is and its growth is supported. The key for this for me is to bring outside income and to value the users, members and their content to the max. Beside this it depends of what new tools and features will launch in the future and I think the team is in the right direction with the DeFi approach, wrapped LEO, Ethereum pro vision and all related to this.

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$10 is totally feasible and is my big time target. Even though I still think Neal's math on $37 is completely legit. We shall see. We just need to keep growing this bad boy!

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To be honest, I dont discount Neal's forecast either.

It might not be probably but it is possible. Of course, that begs the difference between a pump versus sustained levels.

On a pump, anything can happen. Sustained take a lot more work yet it doable.

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I'm looking forward! I agree with everything you say! If Leo reaches 10 $ it will be phenomenal! However, I expect(dream) to reach over $ 30 !! Leo to the moon!! 🚀🚀🚀🦁🦁🦁

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Little by little I'm becoming closer to this community.

From the outside I've seen the potential that LEO has. LeoFinance is one of the best (if not the best) examples of communities in HIVE. LEO at 10, 20 or 30 would be great and I think there is potential!

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That is all we can do. Make the place accommodating for the next person who arrives.

We are all in this together and we must keep growing. Each new person who feels welcomes by getting upvotes on their comments will continue.

That is how we are going to keep increasing the numbers.

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Yes, I can know by experience that feeling welcome and appreciated will lead to activity and commitment in the community. Thank you for all your work!

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Welcome ♥️

There are many possibilities for LEO's growth but the certainty of having good travel companions is evident 😁

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Thank you @claudio83! It's great to have the support of an amazing community!

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What you are saying looks really posible from an objetive perspective, 100.000.000$ is a good and easy cap for a token of this development and I also think that it would go way more than that, but I'm not sure if that will happen soon, since it takes a lot of time to build some really big stuff.

Lets look at how long took Facebook to be where it is right now, when it started and how many development and experiencies it had to live, and also Youtube, so I think that maybe it will still take some years, but I also think that 100 million will be a short quantity for what Leo would achieve, so maybe 200, or even 1.000.000.000$, who knows.

Great Video!!

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A couple advantages over both of those. They were developing in a period when people really did not get social media since they were essentially laying the foundation. We are now in a world that truly understands it.

But you are right, I do not expect the values mentioned to come for a while. It is not an overnight process. However, consistent jumps in the user base on a high growth scale can accelerate it. Also, if people start to build other projects around LEO, that will help to increase the need for the token.

There are so many possibilities at this moment. We will see where it all goes.

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Completely true, we are still at the beginning of something good and the important thing is to keep developing, getting more users and way more usability so this becomes a great economy, and right now LEO is in its way to greatness

For a long time we had in mind that LEO was undervalued for its potential. As time goes by after a year and a half with various tools created in favor of the Hive ecosystem and with the pleasant surprise of wLEO, I am convinced that LEO can reach levels never imagined before.

These values ​​that you presented really are great prospects for the near future and being honest, LEO reaching $ 1.00 will already change the lives of many here in a spectacular way.

Will it be through LeoFinance that we can finally achieve the long-awaited financial independence? Well, I have been believing since the first day I put all my attention on this community.

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Will it be through LeoFinance that we can finally achieve the long-awaited financial independence?

If not totally, it will be one of the pieces that can be a building block towards that end. As more is rolled out, both with Leo and Hive, we should be able to leverage the early adopter into a nice windfall.

It will take some time but I expect that things will look a lot different for many people here by this time next year.

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I also have positive thoughts for the future and I believe that next year will be great for cryptocurrencies.

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Looking at Leofinace as an economy instead as „only“ a platform makes a lot of sense. It is the beginning of a new area in the internet, that will lead to shift power and user from the platforms to the next evolutionary entity, that are full economies on their own. Thank you for making this so crystal clear.

I don't know why but the figure $17 seems to materialize in my head whenever I think of the future price and that is fine with me!

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That is a good number too.

I do not thing many will be upset if LEO hits $17.

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I think there would be much dancing in the streets!!

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LOL some might even being doing it nude at that price.

What the hell, can afford bail money then.

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Haha,17 bucks!! Imagine how much a post would make!! More than enough for bail 🤣🤣

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This post is one of those rare cases, when I wish I could make a 200% or 300% upvote.
If this video can not make people go and remove their sell orders (or reconcider how realistic are their buy-walls at 1.2) - I don't now what can.

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Thank you for the kind words @onealfa.leo.

Yes I cannot understand the selling at this point. We are seeing so much happening and it is not being hidden. Most days this past week, there was a new feature that was added to the UI, and not even announced.

How many other projects do you see that happening with?

And that is only one aspect of what is taking place.

LEO will change the lives of many.

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nice video that surely describes a possible scenario.

In order for LEO to reach these prices it will have to work a lot, which it is already doing, and many more people will have to join.

The foundations are solid: let's raise this skyscraper called Leofinance 🤟💪

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Yes it will require both of what you say, at least on a long term basis. However, the work is being done which is encouraging. We are also seeing the activity among the users here growing. That is vital.

Over time, I believe, it will all start to add up. Everything tends to pile on top of each other as long as it continues. The last week or so is very encouraging with the comments.

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I think we definately could see a multiple of 50 to 100x
We have seen projects with no utility and small shallow communities 100x with good marketing and attention brought to them by large investments. Leo has utility, the project is constantly growing and improving, plus the last WLEO project shows the ability to not only 10x, but also to earn additional exchange listings with the token appreciation that comes with it. These listings put our Liquidity Pools and our Blogging platform out in front of the eyes of many other investors and potential community members. These people may have large amounts of capitol to invest. They also see the profit multiple and the low cost to get in when the token is inexpensive. Finally, the blogging platform is a stream of income for both content producers and content consumers alike. Many investors will see this as a plus and a reason to hold the token longterm.
The future for this token is bright.

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To add, the wLEO will put Leofinance in the DeFi game. While it is minor to start, it is a step in the right direction. Where will it all go from there?

It is a platform that we can keep adding and growing with. This will help to push upward pressure, I believe, on the token.

The first major goal remains 40K users. That is something that I feel is achievable and will set the path to much higher levels.

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Agreed, I think DeFi has shown itself to be a great way to get more eyeballs on the project, and the recent addition of the 15% of inflation to Liquidity Providers should make more of them longer term investors and perhaps get them interested in blogging to add to their positions and increase their earnings. I also agree it should increase our user base by getting our project name out there for more to learn about.

10$ LEO is all it would take for me to retire from my day job and fully devote myself to the movement of decentralization. Even though it may seem far at the moment, time goes by fast when you're busy doing something. I'll make myself busy creating unique content for the crypto-verse. As we all know - anything can happen, especially in crypto!

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I bet many said the same thing about Bitcoin in the early days.

Those who are holding BTC from 2013 or 2014 are in crazy position if they have any number of coins.

While not to the same level, many on here could find themselves in a similar position in just a few years.

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That's right. In some ways, we're early adopters.

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LEO has the potential to reach all of the mentioned prices but it will definitely take some time and marketing.

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Particularly enjoyed the line in your financial advice disclaimer "take some of that money to go see a shrink" haha!

I agree with a lot of what you said about the development, leadership and all the communications going on from the official accounts - there's a clear direction going on here and that's powerful for me as an end user/blogger/content creator of the Leofinance site. That keeps me going along with the interaction, the enthusiasm and the involvement of everyone on the site. I'm commenting more through LEOfinance than I am on PeakD now!

With the added LP coming in (it's still above my head to be fair), these additional services that can be made available e.g. with HivePAY that includes buying things with LEO tokens, there's no reason why the price can't go higher. I don't know about the price predictions, $10 seemed vast at first thought but when you explained all the different ways the token can be used and seeing how the team is working with its community and the community working with each other in a unified fashion, why can't it get to $10? It can certainly go a lot higher than where it is now!

My goals still remain the same for the time being, get to 1,000 LP - in my first 5 weeks of getting stuck in (first post was 28th September), I've breached 500 LP through combination of buying and posting, getting involved - I'm having fun!

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You will get to 1,000 LP. It is a guarantee.

People do not realize that this is a very simple system. Start, stay active, and your account will grow.

If there is a new target level, such as you stated, then it is just a matter of time before you get there.

LEO tokens will be distributed for years to come. Just keep it up and you will pass those goals you set for yourself.

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I think I may well exceed expectations and get to 1000 before the end of the year but one goal at a time! Will be measuring progress on spreadsheets and take things from there!

Thanks for the encouragement and positive vibes!

That is what often happens. The compounding nature of this entire platform means we often underestimate our growth rate.

Keep being active and the LEO will flow to you. It will likely end up being a bit more each week or month.

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Yeah for sure, got to love the compounding effect. It's already being noticed as LEO is now my top 3 crypto holding behind BTC and HIVE - only been involved for 5 weeks - I think you might be right, it's share in my portfolio will definitely grow!

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@taskmaster4450, In my opinion world is unaware about one thing and that is now their Financial Knowledge and Expertise can be monetised in the Decentralised Form. Stay blessed.

Your videos always make me smile ( in the best way possible ). It's important to dream big and be realistic at the same time.

It's also nice to hear that your videos are not inspired by 'funny cigarettes' ( I believe you called them that ) or oxygen.

The only thing you seem to be high on is Leo and I'm with you on that.

Keep up the good work! It's much appreciated.

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I am actually very high on Hive also.

There is a lot of great things happening with Hive. We cannot over look that.

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True that, same here. The excitement is in the air once again. As a creative I can't help but being excited about NFT art, as a guy working on getting greener fingers I enjoy Natural Medicine and then there's a bunch of other communities, tokens and developments that seem to breathe new life into Hive, once again. Aside from that, I have made so many friendships and connections on here over the last 3.5 years that this place has become like Hotel California to me.

Enjoy your Sunday!

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NFTs hold great possibility and, even though not my thing, I like the idea of the art being sold on here. I hope that it really takes off and can help to solidify Hive-Engine.

I am not familiar with a lot of the tribes but here is hoping they get their act together while implementing some things to help then grow. Leo is providing a model that others can follow and adapt from.

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I hope that it really takes off and can help to solidify Hive-Engine.

That would be awesome. I don't mind taking part in that ;<)

I am not familiar with a lot of the tribes but here is hoping they get their act together while implementing some things to help then grow. Leo is providing a model that others can follow and adapt from.

Hear hear! Many of the other tribes are working very hard. They just don't all have a finance mindset and adding value to a token is what many struggle with. It will probably benefit all of them to lurk into the shadows and learn from the Leofinance community.

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IMO Leo and hive will rise together.

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LeoFinance is a platform that has grown a lot in the last year and still has a lot of room for growth

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Summary:
In this video, the speaker discusses the potential of Leo, focusing on its growth, user base, development, and various features. He speculates on the price of Leo, mentioning the continuous updates and enhancements in the project. The speaker delves into the concept of Leo as an economy, emphasizing its potential to become a significant player in the crypto world. He explores different possibilities for Leo finance, such as the Leo shop, subscriptions, financial services, and content creation, envisioning a vibrant and diverse ecosystem.

Detailed Article:
The speaker begins by highlighting the recent surge in the price of Leo and the continuous development and growth of the project. He mentions the increasing user base, updates being rolled out, and the overall positive trajectory of Leo. The strategy of surprising users with updates instead of pre-announcing them is praised for keeping the user base engaged and excited.

Moving on, the speaker turns his attention to the potential price of Leo, emphasizing that he sees substantial growth potential due to the project's development and various directions it is moving in. He discusses the significance of WLeo and its impact on the token price, projecting sustained levels rather than just a pump in price.

The speaker then delves into the concept of Leo as an economy, not just a website or project. He envisions a dynamic ecosystem where users can engage in various activities such as content creation, curation, and participating in liquidity pools. The idea of Leo finance becoming a platform for diverse financial services like subscriptions, financial advice, newsletters, and media content is elaborated upon.

Moreover, the speaker discusses the unique model of token distribution on Leo finance, where users are compensated based on upvotes received for their content. He predicts a scenario where individuals could potentially earn a living through their participation on the platform as the economy grows and diversifies.

The speaker also touches upon the decentralized nature of Leo finance, comparing it to centralized media platforms like CNBC and Bloomberg. He emphasizes the potential for individuals to create different types of content on Leo finance, contributing to a decentralized financial media landscape.

In conclusion, the speaker encourages viewers to share their thoughts on the potential growth of Leo and the development of its economy. He remains optimistic about Leo's future, envisioning significant potential for the project to become a prominent player in the cryptocurrency space.

I don't think Leo will value more than Hive anytime soon but it will certainly possibly be worth $10 million.

To start, this presumes HIVE stays at the level it is at which many of us think it will move up. It is not outrageous for Hive to move up to 20 cents over the course of a couple weeks, which would just about double its market cap.

Leo is obviously a long term situation. You are right that most social media has a tough time attracting newer users. That is where the rubber meets the road as they say. Can it attract the new users to push the marketcap through that $30 million level you mentioned.

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I think the Bitcoin versus the rest of coins comes down to development. Bitcoin has the financial basis where price is what matters most. To me, to locked up that store of value which I do not think it will lose. Thus, people will flock to it on speculation.

As for the payments, agree 100%. Stablecoins are truly the only way to operate. How can merchants (or any business owner) run a business if the price of the currency is apt to go up or down 10% in a day? It is impossible. That much volatility is not good for pricing of products or services. And lets be honest, is a token has any speculation value, then it is going to be volatile.

Hive, as most of the other blockchains that are technology based cryptocurrencies, required development, and lots of it. This is what is putting Ethereum, in spite of a substandard technological blockchain, at the front of the clase. Even though it has flaws, developers are still drawn to it. This keeps the process expanding.

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