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RE: Lack of engagement is hampering Hive adoption

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To be fair, that top post of @grindle's does have 5 comments, and he does respond which will take it into double figures. I hear the average post gets 2 comments which is abysmal.

I have been sending him FB messages, telling him about his post and he's delighted. For someone to top trending and have not invested in HIVE at all gives me hope that someone is looking and seeing something different and worth reading.

This is an isolated example but it's worth pointing out, that you can be seen by something other than your wallet size. At the moment, I'm buzzing that something from a minority community is doing so well.

But getting back to what @bozz says. Are people commenting just for the sake of it? I comment on bozz's post's only if I have something to say.

There are not enough people on HIVE to segregate them into their communities ... yet. I comment on most UX posts, as that is my interest. The number are not here and that has always been the issue.

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Agree you can't force engagement it has to be natural interaction otherwise it comes across at best as false or at worst as spam. For me we need to get the killer mobile app that provides a similar experience to what is out there (FB/IG) and also deals with on boarding in a simple way (light accounts) and then I think people will come. I have hopes @dapplr might achieve this.
People need to be able to try before they buy so to speak which is why light accounts with no focus on the rewards pool are needed IMO. The pooled rewards from those light accounts could help fund the app that hosts them.
Once they see the potential they will invest the time to understand what a full account is worth and upgrade to one.

For what its worth I get more 'meaningful' comments from 3k followers on hive than I do from 45k on Instagram. So its all relative to what peoples expectations are.

For what its worth I get more 'meaningful' comments from 3k followers on hive than I do from 45k on Instagram.

I don't use Instagram so could not comment, and I have stopped sharing my links on Facebook. I don't see the point anymore, I do Tweet my stuff though.

What was eSteem have a mobile app though I don't use it, the text is a little small for me. Light accounts? I think peakd.com does those, but it's not really enticing people on. The expectation is high for newbies and when they get little or nothing they leave and go back to where the masses are.

If there are masses, you will get interaction.

Yes but you have to start somewhere. People should promote the fact that you own your own connections here rather than that you get paid. Plenty of influencers on Instagram or Youtube that have existing monetization models without the global reward pool; as long as they can reach their followers. The issue is that those platforms can cut their reach at will. So to have a distributed database of peer to peer connections which no one controls allows people to control their own reach. I know a lot of people on IG with this issue where reach has been cut and now they are being forced to use paid promotion to get it back. I had this myself with reach cut over 50% when I was forced onto a creator account on IG and now get asked to pay to get it back. The issue is that without a smooth user interface and onboard process you simply can't get your followers to move over here. In the mean time I think we are more suited to taking users from communities on reddit. But I remain hopeful we will get there.

I deliberately did not single people out in that image by hiding their names. Just trying to show the massive difference in votes and comments that implies a lot don't even see the post. Good to see @grindle is doing well as he puts a lot into his posts, even if it may be a minority audience. Mind you, if 1000 urbexers suddenly joined Hive then they could be the biggest community.

I try to add value with comments as well as posts, but when I see a good post with no comments I want to give some encouragement.

Mind you, if 1000 urbexers suddenly joined Hive then they could be the biggest community.

If they see the figure next to the post, then a few more might think about it. We keep saying that money should not be the motivator but with everywhere else it's username and password, and if they forget the password then the password reset in a few seconds.

It will need to be like that here to draw the masses, somehow done by someone, and in a de-centralized platform, how can that be done?

Having a $ sign next to the reward value might help as well. Peeps outside HIVE don't know what the HIVE symbol means.

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Eg.. look at this, it says to me I received 42.38 HIVE. This is not the case, as I received approx $21 for it. We all know this as we are HIVER's. How about Mr Facebook?

If Mr Facebook looked at the price of the token he would see 22c per. So @slobberchops gets $9.24 for his post? (42*.22). Wrong again!..

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This is what I got, it is approx $21. $21 means something to an outsider. 21.. of 'that funny symbol which is not actually what the post is going to get' is not!

Im getting back to money again, but its one of the crazy things we see here.

Don't some sites show a dollar value? Telling people you make $xxx each week should get their attention. The technical issues with passwords are something else. I think it's time people took password managers for granted instead of getting by with the same password on multiple sites. Keychain makes using the various Hive sites easy.

Hive.blog does, but the premier dapp (IMO) does not. Why the HIVE symbol on peakd.com? My links are all peakd ones, so people see that 'funny symbol'

Keychain makes using the various Hive sites easy.

It does but it's an extra layer of 'stuff that they don't want to do', and it works with Chrome and new Edge. What about phones?

The mobile experience is lacking. eSteem has changed to ecency now and so it being developed. We lost Partiko along the way. We need more options that make it as easy as other platforms.

Comments are a difficult thing at times. Some days there is just to much content to vote on and comments, at least for me do take some time and thought, so even though I want to leave comments, sometimes I am at a loss for words, or just plain assed talked out.

I have seen some of those "just for the sake of it" type comments @bozz mentioned myself, but there are or seem to be more meaningful comments being left lately, at least I the post that I read/view.