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RE: Community Discussion and Updates: Hive Airdrop Exclusion List and Code Corrections, Core Developer Meetings

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No one's funds were seized. They still have all their Steem.

This was a creation of a new coin, and the efforts of all those involved has enriched all Hive airdrop participants. It will also shortly enrich those who were mistakenly excluded. It's kind of amazing to me that you think that the dev who made the coding mistake should apologize for it, when he and everyone else involved worked their butts off and rewarded people (for no payment, I might add).

Second, it was admitted that it was a mistake. No one has attempted to gloss over that. But all the devs were working under serious time pressure, which was completely outside of our control. You're expecting too much, IMO.

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No one's funds were seized. They still have all their Steem.

I look at Hive as more of a rebranded continuation of Steem, than a new coin with an airdrop where the old coin "Steem" gets maintained by a few people after Hive advanced. But that's just my viewpoint, and my choice of words.

[Y]ou think that the dev [...] should apologize, when he worked [his butt] off [...]

I admit and realize after sleeping over this for a few hours that I put that very harshly. What I wanted to say is that I would appreciate it very much if there was a "We are sorry for the inconveniences cause for these accounts" or something along the lines of that in the next @HiveIO announcement.

You're expecting too much, IMO.

I expect a lot, but I would like to say that I am also very grateful for your work, and those that work a lot behind the scenes. I am very glad that Hive exists, and that I am able to be on here. This might not have been clear from reading my comment. That comment wasn't much more than nitpicking.

Hi @flugschwein ,
I would like to thank you once again that you have taken care of this matter so much and that you have engaged yourself!
I was very nervous and worried after the blacklist, and it did me a lot of good to see that you were always up to date on this matter.
For me personally, it would have been much more important than an apology if I had received a small message from a witness as soon as the mistake was known to the witnesses.
Without this message the time since the mistake was known to me was very long.
Kind regards, @double-u

If I promise to bring my daughter a gift from a shop but then forget it unintentionally (because I have so many other things to do), then probably I will apologize to have disappointed her (even if she wouldn't have to pay for her 'enrichment'). :-)
Anyway, you are right that most important is that the problem is solved and the sricpt corrected now. Thanks for all the hard work!

I'm not sure the situation is exactly equivalent. While I agree it's never good to promise free things to anyone, then fail to deliver in a timely manner, I feel like there's a stronger duty between a parent to his child.

If the situation was reversed, for me, I'd be grateful I'm getting a free gift, even if it's delayed a bit.

But I can certainly understand disappointment at the delay.

I'm not sure the situation is exactly equivalent.

Not exactly. :)

If the situation was reversed, for me, I'd be grateful I'm getting a free gift ...

Concerning me, I am.

But I can certainly understand disappointment at the delay.

Oh, I guess that for most affected users the delay wasn't really a probem, but for example I know that at least at the beginning my friend @double-u was very nervous because he felt uncertain if he would receive the money of the airdrop at all, respectively if he had to make a proposal etc. Had I been on the list I probably had felt the same kind of uncertainty ...

Thanks @jaki01 !
yes, a very quick notification that it was a mistake would have been very, very nice!
Without this information, the time of uncertainty was very uncomfortably long.
Stay healthy!

if it was a mistake dear @blocktrades, than why still so many NORMAL USER are until on the black list? THIS is by far not any mistake!

There was certainly a mistake in the script, and the mistaken accounts are being corrected now.

If it was intentional, like you are suggesting, and not a mistake, why would the developers exclude those accounts, only to include them later?