Calling all Inspectors

in #luv2 years ago (edited)

The LUV and HBIT tokens have simple goals and try to keep things simple.

  • LUV - share LUV on the Hive chain with others and expect nothing in return
  • HBIT - rewards your effort and ensures that every token is backed by proof that someone exerted some effort at some time.

In both cases, the desire is to keep barriers-to-entry low and barriers-to-use low. With LUV, only 10 are needed to give freely to others. With HBIT, a Hive newbie could literally mine HBIT as his or her first Hive action. Simple is good.

The simplicity and low barriers require a degree of trust and responsibility. Not all people can be trusted, or they are irresponsible, or they are selfish. Probably, we all have degrees of each of these vices. Yet, some people are just simply bad actors. And, their actions can hurt, as described in this post by @kvinna.

Thankfully, on an open blockchain like Hive, everything is open and transparent for all to see! As the saying goes:

"Sunlight is the best disinfectant." Source.

LUV is calling for "Inspectors" to help keep an eye out for bad actors.



What are inspectors?
Inspectors are people who keep an eye out for abuse and misuse of the LUV or Hivebits (HBIT) token. The idea and name came from @thatgermandude (see below). Inspectors could probably keep a watch out for abuse of other comment/tip/engagement tokens as well, since many of these bad actors seem to wrangle in these tokens also. It's nothing official, it's just people keeping watch for misuse.

What is misuse?

LUV misuse - The intent is to share love with others and expect nothing in return. The intent is not to farm-mine the LUV token for one's self.

HBIT misuse - The intent is to reward one's own effort, one HBIT per person per day. The intent is not to farm-mine HBIT beyond that.

How do Inspectors inspect?
Inspectors use their tools.

  1. The most basic way for anyone to help is to just keep an eye out. Abuse usually pops up in the comments of posts. For instance, chains of comment/tip/engagement tokens send back-and-forth to/from the same users is a red flag.
  2. Look at the Hive-Engine block explorers. HE Explorer and hive-engine.rocks are great. Entering usernames and/or token names can be enlightening. All actions from all time are there.
  3. Look at Hive blockchain explorers. Hiveblocks and hive.ausbit.dev are great. Changing to a Hive user's username shows their entire history. For instance, by going to a user's first/oldest page (the largest page number at the bottom), you can see when the user began. Then, every single action could be traced from there.
  4. Watch Discord. The LUV server on Discord is at https://discord.gg/K5GvNhcPqR Two valuable tools there are the luv-log and hbit-log channels. They show all of the commands LUV and HBIT receive. Whereas the block explorers are great tools for all time history, Discord and the logs are great tools for real time...when a bad actor starts acting badly, there it is on display!
  5. Watch the markets. This requires a little experience with order books and depth charts, but this is how a recent oddity was first discovered. LUV markets: H-E LUV | Tribal LUV | LeoDex LUV; or for Hivebits: H-E HBIT | Tribal HBIT | LeoDex HBIT.
  6. Check Hive-Engine Classic. [Originally used but now offline: https://jjb777.github.io/hive-engine-classic/.] This tool not only shows H-E transactions, but also shows the usernames behind those transactions. Remember, everything on the chain is open and transparent. The HBIT page was used to uncover the bad actors recently (actually, it was one person with several alt usernames).
  7. Contact @crrdlx either on chain or on Discord. On chain you could publicly use comments, or you could use the private "chat" feature PeakD has handy. Discord is likely the fastest.

Case study:

@thatgermandude recently noticed oddities in the HBIT order book and notified me. When a bad actor is suspected, checking his or her recent activities can reveal collusion with other bad actors. These "others" often turn out to be the same person hiding behind alt usernames and just posing as others. Also, checking early actions in a user's history can reveal who this user is in league with. Oftentimes, the fake username is supported by a "larger" user early on...maybe by receiving HP or Hive or HBD, or by getting upvotes or comments. So, I dug around using the tools above and the bad actor and alt-usernames were revealed. Similar to an FBI wall-chart with photos, clues, evidence, times and dates, all linked with red yarn, dots begin to connect and things tend to become clear. The bad actor and all of his many usernames were blocked.

Using these tools is like opening the window and letting the sunlight shine in to disinfect.

What happens if a user is suspected of bad action?

  1. Normally, that user will be contacted. This contact will be to educate and inform. The intent here is to let the user know that their actions are seen, but not to finger-point, shame, or embarrass.
  2. After notification, if the bad actions stop, then everything is just fine.
  3. If things continue in a bad way, blocking will likely follow.

Note, if the abuse is egregious and obvious, I'll skip the notification and just block.

What does being blocked mean?
For LUV, this means they cannot give or receive the token. This means for Hivebits that they cannot mine HBIT or receive it if someone mined it in a reply to them.

Any LUV or HBIT already owned (or pilfered) can still be traded on the Hive-Engine exchange...any tokens owned by a user's private keys, are controlled by those keys and user. Blocked users could also still be given LUV or HBIT wallet-to-wallet (just like any other H-E token). However, they will be cut off from the LUVbot and HBITbot going forward.

How can I be an inspector?

  1. In a way, you already are an inspector. Anyone can keep an eye out. It's the adage, "See something, say something." Just helping out helps.
  2. Give me, @crrdlx, a heads up. I will say this: my default is to lean toward accepting people's actions in the best possible way and being forgiving...even if that means I get burnt sometimes.
  3. Comment or reply if something seems suspicious. It's a good idea to refer users to the "About" pages: About LUV | About HBIT
  4. Join the LUV (and HBIT) Discord and reach out to me there. (I'm crrdlx#2692 on Discord.)

Thank you for helping. :)

Written by @crrdlx




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I can be mean. I want to help

We want our inspectors to be nice tho... !LUV is not about hate ;)

Haha, I can be nice and explain it to them nicely :p

I am up for it if you need more inspectors :D

Thanks. Keep an eye out, let me know, join the Discord to share info.

Cool Cool. I am in Discord already ^^

Added you to the inspectors channel there. Thanks for offering to help.

You are welcome

Hi, @crrdlx I can try to be an inspector. Will just keep my eyes open..

!LUV

You gave the command but I did not receive any LUV 😔 I tried to send !LUV also nothing happened. Am I doing it wrong?

mhh, sometimes the bot does not have enough RC to comment but the LUV should still go through, let me try again, !LUV

Just to let you know, there must be some glitch. No LUV received. You don't have to reply again. I will see I others are using it, I will know it's fine.

yeah it seems to be just the RC of the bot. You can track the LUV sent on the discord at luv-log.

or https://he.dtools.dev/@hope777
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Thank you. 👍🙃

If you are doing inspections please also consider contacting me via Hive or Discord. I want to share some of my LUV and HBIT with people who help to keep the Tokens clear of abuse.

I am not sure how involved I will get myself as an inspector, but I would surely like to get updates on the security of HBIT and LUV.

I had actually thought about this recently, wondering whether it would be possible for two people to just share coins back and forth each day. Is it a big problem or just something that people are occassionally caught doing?

It seems like a lot of effort for minimal payout, to be honest. I can imagine someone would make more money a day by just posting on Hive.

!PIZZA

This is the kind of thing we're trying to avoid. It's fine to give LUV to a friend and they give it back. Sometimes it becomes obvious that people are just mining LUV though. The goal to share love on the chain, not to mine LUV on the chain. "Big problem?" I'd say no, 99% of the time I think the LUV shared is heartfelt. But it is a problem at times. And yes, I agree, "It seems like a lot of effort for minimal payout, to be honest."

Yeah it's not good that people would be trying to mine it. I only recently discovered the tokens that can be tipped for free to people per day. I think it's great for someone like me who's vote doesn't have a lot of weight, these tokens though give a good chance to spread some better rewards for things I like.

Oh wow! I did not realise it was possible to abuse the hivebits and luv tokens! I'll be on the lookout as well 👍

@luvshares

As we already know... it is sad to have to even consider such things. But like it's been said... the goal is to share LUV, not mine it. Conversely... the HBIT Tokens were meant to be once a day... for yourself, or shared with another. The mindset of abusing doesn't just hurt those doing it. It hurts everyone who is trying to do the right thing. I hope this call to action will help others see the true mindset of your initiatives, and I thank everyone who is willing to help...

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The proper commands are:

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! LUV (without a space)
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The uppercase/lowercase matters.

!Luv

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The correct command is !LUV

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