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RE: Modern slavery: The human as a productive factor.

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The four horsemen of the apocalypse - white, red, black, and pale - are interpreted as Christ, War, Famine, and Death. Another perspective may interpret these as moral legitimacy, power politics, mercantile ascendancy, and disruption dynamics.

Human societies enforce cohesion first through the powers of moral proscriptions, traditional customs, shared civility. When the moral fabric frays, the use and abuse of political force and strength of will become necessary to hold and bind the disperate competing human ambitions into a coherent whole.

The obtuse force projection through military and legal institutions inevitably results in mercantile ascendancy that supply limitless credit to the political institutions. Once the political apparatus becomes dependent upon the coin of easy credit, the society becomes enthralled by mercantile gnomes.

It may be that we will witness the rise of disruption dynamics that will ultimately shatter current mercantile phase of societal cycle. Al Qaeda demonstrated that power resides not with those who control finance, but with those who can disrupt the flow of credit. The hacker group "anonymous" has much influence and power, as they can aim their disruption at any institution or sector of our increasingly interconnected and interdependent economy. Mere threat of violence or disruption can result in catastrophic losses for finacial institutions and its nation-state host.

When all of creation becomes ledgerized into blockchain virtual space, electronic disruption by any disgruntled faction will result in dissolution of entire industries, collapse of nation-states, and deletion of entire cultures. Without shared moral principles and cultural norms, man is an isolated unit, obligated and responsible to no one. Without even the financial credit flow to bind men together, we may experience the collapse of the global network, as our ancestors did 3000 years prior. A world built upon virtual currency will inevitably dissolve into the aether, from which it arose.


A very gloomy prognosis you're making. Of those who are spoken to here, all will probably agree with you. Probably all those who no longer work with their bodies but with their minds. So all those who are not involved in care, obstetrics, work with the disabled and the elderly, babies and small children. Or do social work that brings people together with people in real physical life.
I cannot estimate this, but I suspect that the physically rooted person is in an inferior position. Nevertheless, I do not believe that realistic assessments must necessarily be made. The thing is, if you let your cynicism win you over, or if you're pessimistic or even fatalistic, you'll be impressed by the fact that basically - at least it seems - all of humanity thinks of itself as a disease (I'm not talking to you personally now, because I don't know how you feel about it). But it can also be considered quite differently. The will to change one's perspective and accept something else because one wants it: also a possibility.

I believe that wisdom can be learned and is a matter that can be obtained through continuous human encouragement and effort. It takes a lot to do that, but I think and see a counter-movement that considers cohesion worth striving for, one that is not led by revolution or struggle or terror. So it is good that you mentioned this.

"I believe that wisdom can be learned..."

I am sure you are right, and note my experience has been wisdom is the product of foolish mistakes, but only for those that profitably consider their mistakes.

For this reason, my deepest regrets are those I most appreciate having responsibility for, as only having done regrettable things might I know not to ever do such things again.


Let's work then on to get more wise and to know when to act and when to let go.

So, doing foolish things to learn from?


if there is a thing you consider to have been foolish than yes, it serves you as a learning experience. I know of no human who hadn't done something foolish. The less one learned through adolescence the more foolish the decisions can become.

I had given myself several lessons in foolishness. I did shameful things. I am willing to learn to forgive myself and to bring as much distance between those things and my present life. So I can heal and also appreciate what is good now.

And simply stop being foolish :) How about you? From whom and what do you learn and get your insights?

Modern man is disconnected from his environment, his neighbors, his heritage, his family, his creator, and ultimately himself. In the past, tyrannical overlords would remove men from their places of birth, their family, their society, and their religion, in order that the conquered would become discombobulated meat tools. In our modern world, such removal of man from his sociocultural matrix is not only expected, but encouraged; most men voluntarily and enthusiastically remove themselves from that which reenforces their identity. Somewhere in the planes of the afterlife, Qin Shi Huang is rolling in his hell, envious of the accomplishments of modern tyrants, in enacting what he attempted with the force of limitless armies and bureaucrats with mere money and subversive indoctrination.

True freedom of man can only be attained through man first defining himself in relation to the rest of creation and with his creator. Those who imagine themselves free or in power because they hold tools and institutions fail to realize that it is not they who wield the tools and instintutions, but the tools or institutions that wield them. The mercantile gnomes are trapped in the so-called market cycle, resulting from money that is divorced from reality, but unable to act differently due to the dictates of the very system they imagine they control.

you describe in great detail the grievances that we are all more or less familiar with.

What else do you have to say? Have you reached a degree of freedom for yourself that leaves you satisfied? No matter what forces outside your reach seek to control you, it depends on how you evaluate your personal maturity and what you do to make sure that you and yours are well. You merely describe in a more eloquent way what you consider to be the cause of evil.

What kind of lifestyle have you chosen for yourself? What encouraging example do you personally give? Are you at peace with yourself, or is that what you seek?

Voltaire's Candid and Swift's Gilliver's Travels are essentially the same stories with protagonists traveling the world and experiencing the foolishness of man's arbitrary sociocultural matrix, under which humanity is yoked. Yet, the two tales arrive at conclusions fundamentally opposed to each other. A wise and humble Candid, despite being yoked to a shrew of a wife, a perpetual pessimist friend, and hostile in-laws, is content to tend his gardens. A cynical and proud Gulliver, despite the material wealth and modest fame, shuts himself away, unable to interact with the imperfect world and the yahoos that live within it.

This plane of existence is flawed, as man himself is imperfect. Rather than rejecting reality, being obsessed with unattainable vision of utopia, the wise accept reality and engage the evil, flawed, corrupt world by tending to their gardens. There is a sphere of inflence, within which man can shape his environment. Most men, like Gulliver, isolate themselves from the world, unable to accept reality, bitterly complaining to themselves, others, God that our world falls short of utopia. Rather than tending their gardens, they demand revolution, failing to comprehend that creations of flawed creatures will always be flawed.

Influence and contentment begins with the man. Before exercising liberty, man must first, discipline his mind, govern his emotions, and submit to the will of God by living according to his station and responsibility. Having a figure like Martin is useful, as long as the information is only utilised to gauge public sentiments. Events beyond the sphere of a man's control are accepted, and his life adjusted to reflect the new reality. Such life perspective has provided contentment. By what life perspective have you constructed your life?

Are you not talking about yourself in the I form? Do you identify with the protagonists?

I first had to look up Voltaire's work. You could simply tell me where you stand in your personal development. I can't tell if you want to learn anything or if you think you're completely mature?

For me, there is no singular perspective from which I build my life. I am still learning to take every day so that I can calmly face the flow of events in my own sphere of influence. I am learning to accept my emotions by wanting to feel them when they come and by not negating or trying to suppress any of them. This is a difficult work for me. It never stops. And I am already close to 50.

Because anger, fear, powerlessness, suffering, guilt, and worry keep reappearing in the constant flow of life. It is extremely difficult not to blame these emotions on others as causative. Then I would just as easily have to make my laughter, love, joy and serenity depend solely on others. But neither do I manage everything alone and have control, nor am I completely alone and isolated. I live in constant change with my fellow men and my environment. It influences me, I influence it. It would make no sense to say anything else.

I am not convinced about Martin's character. We have a lot of Martins in the world and he seems to stop at the pessimistic lament.

In principle, we can hardly meet if we have to talk about literature alone.

A long time ago, I was a rabid proponent of individuality, freedom, equality, and brotherhood. The common man, in the folly of my youth, was held as the model for human development. I held freedom as the most cherished principle and celebrated every revolution against the "establishment." I was a humanist fanatic, certain of the inevitable "progress" and "evolution" of humanity toward egalitarian utopia.

Nihil novo sub sole. One day, a small landlocked African backwater burned with tribal hatred which intensity rivalled that of 10,000 supernovae, resulting in the most efficient killing frenzy in the entirety of human history. The "civilized" world actively ignored the event; the perpetual victim group flaired in offense at some, who labelled the event as "genocide;" the average man could not be bothered to even learn the name of this backwater nation. And who were the killers in this backwater cesspool but the average man?

Freedom, brotherhood, equality are meaningless drivel compared with gas, water, electricity. The average man will peck at sand, if told it is grain. Human society is built upon fiction, and it is far better to maintain that fiction, rather than have men devolve into beasts. The Christian perspective regarding the prime cause of evil in this world arising from man's rebellion is true. There has been no greater evil inflicted upon humanity than from "reformers," who imagine themselves claygods, dictating to Heaven their whims.

Man requires excellence towards which he must constantly strive. Otherwise, he descends towards beasts. I learned, painfully, that life without obligation and responsibility is slavery to my addictions and desires. Freedom is but license to every imaginable vice for those who have not mastered themselves. I learned to reject the vicious humanist indoctrination regarding equality of men and their potential; a man's identity is defined by his limitations and refined by his diligence at his station. Brotherhood of man is not established by destroying social classes, but enforcing the duties of men in service to their lords and the obligations of the lords in loyalty towards their subjects. In the abscence of this mutually binding social reality, humanity subsists upon impersonal mercantile contracts.

The limits of my influence are primarily my thoughts, speech, and actions. Secondarily, my influence extends to my daughter, but she models her life in relation to the control I enforce upon myself. My duties are towards God and obligations towards my daughter. Foremost in my mind is the following statement: Such pride undeserved, great conqueror, when your entire being is borrowed. Credit where it is due and dues where payment is demanded. After all, what in this world can we claim ours, when we enter with nothing and will leave with nothing?

True. People ignore in their everyday life what they do not dare to look at. But are you not mistaken if you believe that people do not see everything that is going on in the world? Everyone suffers when you suffer.

Do you not rather want to pacify your mind and your heart in the face of what you were through? It seems to me that you continue what you have experienced. It looks to me as if you want humanity to die. I cannot do much with it when you speak of a duty to God. What do you mean by that? If you are not committed to yourself to live the principles of humanity, God does not matter.

The commandments are universal, everyone understands them. Don't kill, don't hurt others, don't steal, don't lie, etc. These principles would not be needed if we lived in a world where they are respected. If all people would live according to them, we would have paradise on earth. You know and I know and everyone else knows that this is not reality. You have felt the full heat of hatred. It seems to me as if you now want to strike back with all the cold that you are capable of. Only your tormentors are no longer tangible and everyone else is not interested?

Your repetition of the existing shameful deeds help neither you nor those who read here what inability characterizes the human being. On the contrary, you contribute to the pain not being forgotten and pain becoming identification. The pain is real and I feel deep compassion for what you have suffered. But don't underestimate the destructive power and hopelessness that the recipients of your comments have to deal with.

I am neither enlightened nor always strong. I meet a lot of people who use the Internet to turn their pain into gloomy predictions. Your grief hits me particularly hard.

What can you do yourself if you don't want to own anything? Nobody is holding you back from pacifying your soul except yourself, are they not?

I fully agree with the fact that I come with nothing and I go with nothing. But I am not sure, if we do mean the same.

How ever. I wish you love and peace and feel that we are both humans.

Why does a man need to pacify his mind and heart? The Orient has the Tai Chi symbol of Yin and Yang, which many assume is an exhortation towards balance, or harmony. Many in the West have also adopted this balance to life perspective, expending energy into quelling the storms of their life. True Tai Chi form functions when, and only when, the tension of Yin and Yang are intensified to produce intended effect. The Yin, or the heaviness, is pushed towards the earth, while the Yang, or the lightness, is floated towards the heavens. Life occurs in controlled tension between Yin and Yang, water and fire. When life attains balance and passivity, it usually indicates death.

Man is capable of great good, kindness, and wisdom. The long list of saints from Benedict to Pius X indicate the ability of men to rise beyond their beastly natures. Yet, man is also a creature with tendency towards infinite evil. The longer list of worldly tyrants to petty criminals accuse humanity of their beastly nature. Both these realities are principles of humanity. Can a man truly claim to understand his fellow man, while ignoring one-half of man's nature? Even the great atheist Nietzsche wrote that man is a rope stretched between the animal and the uebermensch.

The commandments are universal, everyone understands them. Don't kill, don't hurt others, don't steal, don't lie, etc. These principles would not be needed if we lived in a world where they are respected.

If these commandments are, as you postulate, universal, then by what compulsion would our creator seek to encode it in stone? It would be as farcical as giving instructions on sleeping, eating, and mating. Instructions and commandments are provided because such concepts are foreign to those, to whom such instructions are given.

The compulsion of God, to love thy neighbor as yourself, is precisely difficult because despite the beastly nature of humanity, we must extend curtesy and friendship to our fellow man and to ourselves. We must envision our own sainthood, despite our beastly nature. But all this only within the sphere of influence my station allows; human history is filled with hubris of men, reaching beyond their station, to deliver heaven upon their unsuspecting neighbors and creating hell.

Peace of Christ be with you and your family.

I am blinded by your brilliance.


"...The hacker group "anonymous"..."

I find this an interesting oxymoron, perhaps born of your societal considerations. Nothing arose from aether, but all our artifacts have been crafted with real sweat and toil. Anonymous hackers and megalomaniacal profiteers alike spin the world of their blood and treasure, and the fruit of our labor forever contributes to further development.

"...we may experience the collapse of the global network, as our ancestors did 3000 years prior."

Forgive my ignorance, but can you elucidate on the specific occurrence you refer to here?


The money, whether "precious" metals, fiat, or bitcoin, that the modern era uses to ledgerise all of creation has no connection with reality. Modern money has no relation to productivity. The value of money is determined merely via interest rates, arbitrarily set by the mercantile banking cartel. Much of government revenue derives not from taxation of production, but via credit expansion through lower interest rates. National debt fueled the modern era, and the next era, our overlords imagine, will be ushered via global debt.

This world has been built upon the aether of virtual money. From aether this world arose, and to aether this world shall return.

You are not wrong, yet blood and treasure was expended on this endeavor, and will yield it's reward.

That may not be the reward the investors seek, however.

The collapse of late bronze age mediterranean civilization has uncanny parellel to our modern globalized world. Following this cataclysm, the collapse of Hellenism with the death of Rome could be considered similar civilizational collapse event. Collapse of the successive Chinese dynasties from Zhou to KMT in the Orient reflect their Western counterparts. Humanity seems to be trapped in this cycle.

Thank you for that information.

I strongly agree that we are seemingly in a cyclic vortex of development and destruction, yet I remain confident that ultimately madmen willing to burn it all down will eventually fail to do so, and the abilities native to humanity via the agency of physics will end that cycle forever.

Either that, or we will become extinct, which is not a factor in anyone's calculations, since that result makes every calculation moot. I therefore ignore that possibility.

What a prognosis! It's certainly thought provoking.

Interesting prognosis, indeed. All societies and civilizations have a beginning and an end, the modern is not the exception as many think, and for me it is evident that there are obvious symptoms of decadence already, so it is not unreasonable to think that modern civilization can have even less than a century of life.

But you should well know that the collapse of a civilization is only the beginning of another. The increase of religious, spiritualists, and moralists of all kinds in modern society shows, as evident proof, that a new one is emerging. The famine and death that you mention is only feasible for those who cling to obstinate and obsolete ideas that will soon have no place. Unfortunate, of course, but to a certain degree everyone has the freedom to choose where to position themselves.