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RE: The growing Steem archipelago

in #steem5 years ago

Again, it doesn't actually take that much because essentially RCs can be delegated to an account and dropped from an account dynamically (at least at some point) as an account only needs them while interacting with the chain. They can get them at the door on login, leave them on logout where they then go back in the pool for the next entrant.

I wonder if 2 stage delegation will be possible at any point.
Say Nike launches an SMT and onboards users through their site; as it stands in order to delegate that SP, Nike would need to own it themselves.
Could we see a day when I delegate to Nike, who then on-delegates to their users?
I remember there was talk of separate delegation pools for voting power and resource credits.
That might be something we could perhaps automate in future. I delegate the SP to Nike, they take all the voting power and redirect the RC's to their users. Much to ponder.

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This sounds like SMT-medium, and what Taraz describes below, SMT-Heavy :)

The pondering outside my mental capacity comes when Nike want to reward their community with their own token, which they've (correct me if I'm wrong) traded STEEM/SP for. From what I gather, this token wont give them RCs (to then delegate), and so another pool of RC is then required to give their users energy to transact.

I'm glad the SMT topic is on the discussion board again, it's felt to me like a dirty abbreviation not to be spoken about in more than just recent months.

Could we see a day when I delegate to Nike, who then on-delegates to their users?

I don't think it is needed for the RCs through pools and it could be more dynamic where applications can draw upon a larger pool that many have access to and the pools could potentially be permission-based so that a delegating user can define what kinds of applications it goes to.

I think that later, more people may want to hold their SP rather than delegate but, who knows.

If what you have described was in the original plan for SMT then I can see why things are taking longer than originally thought!

Under the current setup, Nike are going to need that SP to reward their community, and the community will need the RCs to interact. Nike would also need the SP for new account creations?

With a Nike SMT to reward, do they then need less SP?

I wonder if a MB or Smart Market is required for RCs, what the plan is for speed of return of RCs to a user/pool?

Nike need some Steem for SMT creation but for account creation there can potentially be a pool of accounts available that the community provides. I actually have a feeling that they could use an SMT on their platform without having Steem accounts but unsure.

I think a smart market (smarter than smartmarket) will be the way to go to manage resources as well as a market for SMTs themselves.

I've not checked how many account tokens have been gathered up yet but I suspect it is not enough to on-board a million Nike users. Just another reason to keep collecting SP :)

Definitely not but, those costs for creation can be changed also as what happened with RCs needed to interact. I would say still collect :)

True. I can't see them being heavily discounted though just because we have a rush - seems more likely that the cost would increase?

Possibly. What I would imagine though is a large pool of accounts being distributed. To users as they need. Hopefully, many will already have a Steem account they can use to sign into Nike with or, any other Steem SMT service. One account that forms the base key for all other accounts.