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Today I have a friendly talk with Ms. @patrice, a member of @steemcleaners, about sending comments to other Steemit users with a robot. I have this question, because I detected a strange behavior of a Steemit user with the reputation of 69. That user sends out one comments every minute and many comments are exactly same. I believe it's spam. However, Ms. @patrice, who knows Mr. firepower (I am not sure whether they are friends), doesn't think it's spam.
According to Ms. @patrice, sending comments with robot is grey area and @steemcleaners usually doesn't flag it. Because @steemcleaners have other high priority tasks, my understanding is that sending 200 comments to other users every day with a robot can be tolerated by @steemcleaners. Actually, a former member of @steemcleaners is doing the similar thing: sending out more than 100 comments to users and many of these comments are exactly same.
It's easy to write a robot to do this. For the tutorial about the robot, please read my post.
The robot just selects a relatively new post every minute and write a random comment to that post. The comments can be the combination of three short phrases, for example:
- Great post! I love your work! Keep Steeming!
- I love your work! Hope to see more from you! Thanks for sharing!
If you have 20 different phrases, you will have 20x19x18 = 6,840 combinations. If you send 200 comments each day, you will not repeat your comment for more than 1 month.
If you have 40 different phrases, you will have 40x39x38 = 58,280 combinations. If you send 200 comment each day, you will not repeat your comment for 10 months.
If you also use 2-phrase combination and 4-phrase combination, your comments will be more deceptive, and you won't repeat your comment for 30 years.
To make your comments more attractive, your robot can also check the tags of the posts. If it includes the tag of 'photography', you can replace one phrase with 'Fantastic photo!'. If it has tag of 'food', you can use 'Yummy!' or 'Mouth watering!'.
It's easy, right?
Better than that, you can consider to upvote the user after the comment. You can upvote 0.01%. After 200 upvotes, your VP (Voting Power) almost not changed. Is it great? It's much better than some people who just send you random comment and never upvote you.
今天我跟 @steemcleaners的成员 @patrice进行了友好而热烈的讨论。她认为一天发200个评论不算spamming。另外她认为用机器人四处发评论也是灰色区域，他们一般也不踩。
既然这样，大家可以考虑用机器人四处发评论，反正每天200条也不算spamming。
机器人教程见我的这个帖子。
机器人可以这样做：每分钟找个新帖子然后发评论，每个评论由三个短句组成，比如：
- 好棒！多发啊！真牛！
- 太喜欢你的贴了！多谢分享！多谢！
如果你有20个短句，你就可以有20x19x18 = 6,840种组合。每天发两百条，可以一个月不重复。
如果你有40个短句，就有40x39x38 = 58,280种组合。每天两百条，十个月都不会重复。
如果你再加上两个短句的组合和四个短句的组合，你的留言就更加有欺骗性，而且三十年都不会重复。
为了更有欺骗性，你的机器人还可以查看帖子的tag。如果tag有photography，你可以把其中一个短句换成"好照片！"。如果tag有food，你可以换成"好吃！"或者"流口水了！"。
是不是很棒？
如果你发完评论之后再点个赞就更好了。也不要多点，一个0.01%的赞就行，总比有些人评论完不点赞好得多。这样200个赞点完以后，你的点赞能量VP几乎都不变，是不是很好？
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我 在很久之前写过评论机器人，但是试跑了几小时候怕被踩就停了。 因为……这种毫无意义的评论太明显。
如果是我们弄估计早被踩了。他是steemcleaners的人
法不加于尊……
各种利益集团千丝万缕错综复杂
Great post! Steem on! :P
But seriously, informative.
Myself, I'm more worried about unjustified flagging (trolling) rather than unjustified commenting (spamming). The former is an abuse of already held power that harms the community, the latter is done by people who have no power usually and do it in order to attain it, so by definition they're probably harmless right now. In fact I just made a post about flagging, cos some accounts of people I know almost got destroyed recently.
Plus, there's so many places to turn to when there's spamming, like steemcleaners and sherlockholmes etc., whereas there's no place to turn when it comes to trolls, you have to rely on having friends with big SP, to at least counteract their downvotes.
Thanks. I fully agree. For the spamming from the bot I normally tolerate. For spamming from new user, I just mute him. However, the spamming I am talking about is from a user with the rep of 69. It's different.
I reported this to steemcleaners, but the member of steemcleaners might be a friend of him and doesn't admit it's spamming.
Furthmore, the spammer came to curse me, harass me, threaten me, and down vote me. He also banned the users who supported my post from steemit.chat and claims that I own many accounts at steemit.chat. What a lie.
Yeah, that's definitely a bad case.
See me at discord
Thanks for the information. I will correct my article
@bullionstackers
谢谢，我不会搞这么个垃圾机器人。只要firepower不再发垃圾，我可以放他一马。
但是他把持steemit.chat的事情我一定要写文章揭露一下
这个我看到了。因为chat的事情，我对这些网站都不是很放心。等我有时间去注册一个。不知道你有没有wechat
Bot & Copy/Paste comments: If you don't like it - flag it. If it flags back let us know. If you're afraid of being flagged back - report it. We'll notify the curator or comment and maybe downvote a comment or two.
The role of @steemcleaners in most cases here is to warn the user and maybe flag a couple of comments to get the users attention.
We all know spam comments are annoying and a source of block chain bloat. Unless they are high volume or are followed by a voting trail just to drain the reward pool they are more annoying than harmful.
Users posting plagiarism, copy/paste, identity theft/deception, high frequency spam or multiple account abuse is a bigger priority.
@patrice thank you again. This article is just for fun. Don't take it too serious.
I read your comment more carefully today and noticed it shows:
I understand we already discussed the case of Mr. firepower and the discussion is done. But I have the obligation to report to you that:
Again, I do not expect you reply this. But I have obligation to report the above to you.
Thanks for the helpful information @patrice
赞一个你的这种精神，但不太同意你的这种做法
就当小品文博君一笑。我才不会弄这么个机器人。需要多么没品才会像firepower这样搞个机器人四处骗人？
firepower靠着自己的rep和有几个sp每天发一百多条垃圾评论给别人，估计是为了有更多的粉丝。
前几天他用垃圾评论骚扰了我两次。如果是个没有rep的新人我就直接mute了。但是他rep是69，如果我不说话不知道他要为害到什么时候，骗多少人。
所以我去steemcleaners举报他。steemcleaners的管理人员patrice回复了我，说firepower以前是steemcleaners的成员，还说上次跟firepower通话时firepower还在没有康复。显然两人认识。patrice不肯承认她的朋友firepower发的是垃圾，而且说steemcleaners不管这事情。
既然不是垃圾也不管，我就把这些写出来，建议有兴趣的朋友都去这么做，让patrice看看到底是不是垃圾。我当然目前还不打算这么做。
另外firepower好像在steemit.chat还有些势力，查封了我的号和其他几个帮我说话的人的号。
steemit.chat我也不玩，但是那个地方被steemcleaners和cheetah用来申诉。这个申诉的地方被一个垃圾制造者把持着。我准备写文章揭露一下这件事。请关注。
谢谢
但如果都是機器人留言的話,感覺就喪失了這平台的意義,這裡的其中一個目地不就是要增廣見聞嗎? :(
firepower发垃圾。steemcleaners的管理人员是patrice是他的朋友，不承认这是垃圾。既然不是垃圾，我就写出来让大家看看这么做到底是不是垃圾。这是一篇小品文，我才不会弄这么个机器人。详情请看我给rivalhw的回复。谢谢
完全贊成!!!
现在这个印度人又在开始撒谎说我在chat弄了好多小号骚扰其他用户。服了他了
唉.... 無言以對啊~
读你这篇，我感觉你是在讽刺和挖苦。可是看了大家的留言，怎么别人好像都认为你是教人学坏。
是不是因为我写得太一本正经了，还加了公式😄😄
还有，你看这篇文章的两个机器人评论，人家就告诉你自己是机器人，不装x，不骗人，所以我不认为有什么问题。
以前就收到过好多这样的评论！😂
是firepower发给你的吗？
是的，有两次，印象比较深刻，好像还是69级。😄
哈哈，我写文揭发他，被他带机器人s4s狠踩。然后此人踩了我18条评论。后来还有什么donkeypong，analisa，kevinwong几条大鱼接连来踩。不过后来这几条大鱼自知理亏，拿掉了那个踩。还有人帮我在steemtit.chat说话，被踢掉。好热闹。
😄，那个人就是你在群里面说的印度人吗？
是他。如果他停止发垃圾，我就算了。如果他继续，我就继续写。
天哪！好黑暗！只要有人的地方就有陰暗的角落，哎～
特别黑。等我有空写文揭发一下
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