VIETNAMESE COMMUNITY REPORT ON BAD STEEMIAN BEHAVIOUR (part 2)

in #vn6 years ago (edited)

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Continue from the previous report. 2 out of 3 people in the previous report were banned from some communities for fraud and bad conducts. @nguyenthanh was permanently banned from all Tasteem and @a-alice is no longer Teamvn manager. Do not ignore this report. @hanggggbeeee was lucky to get away from the first one but her frauds and misconducts still remain.

1. Response to @hanggggbeeee and her friends feedback

After 2 months from my previous report on bad behaviour, I received some feedback from @hanggggbeeee, @a-alice and their friends and I have had enough time to observe their actions. Here are some of the main points.

I admitted that I lacked the knowledge in the first post on Tasteem, and used a photo of menu of the restaurant in my post. The content is 100% mine, all photos are mine except that menu photo. When I discovered that Tasteem did not encourage the use of other people's photos, the post already payout, so I could not edit it. - Hanggggbeeee

Here is how the Vietnamese community commented and reacted to her words, they called it an excuse and didn’t accept it as it‘s one of the general rules on Steemit that everyone knows. And her close friend, who is also a cheater banned by Tasteem also used that same excuse like her.
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She‘s not honest and has tried to play with words “all photos are mine”, you can check by yourselves how many photos she had on her cheating post: https://busy.org/@hanggggbeeee/tasteem-287cd4

If they do wrong, they will be punished by the communities they belong to. I will not cover up their mistakes. Regarding the rules I have set for Steemit Vietnam, I will strictly apply it fairly, after I heard their explanation. - Hanggggbeeee

This is evidently a lie. After Tasteem found proof to ban @nguyenthanh and fire him as Tasteem-vn supporter, she did not “kick” Nguyenthanh out as she had promised in her own words and her own rules as stated on their Facebook group.
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And then she continued to cover up others cheaters on Tasteem (I will show them below). Only cheaters can accept and support cheaters.

So @hanggggbeeee and @nguyenthanh are still the admin in that Facebook group. Only @a-alice resigned but she made an excuse that she hired her friend @anfood to write more than 30 plagiarized reviews of movies. So does that means she is innocent, even though she posted the content and benefited from it? A-alice ‘s boyfriend @andynguyen also had 5 articles caught by @steemcleaners but he put “text is my own” on his post. So @a-alice you have to think another silly excuse for your boyfriend.
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That is my fault when I said “I’m manager of Vietnamese community”. I should have said exactly that I am the main admin of the biggest vietnamese steemian group and a manager of Team Vietnam discord channel instead of “manager of Vietnam community”.- Hanggggbeeee

@hanggggbeeee, her boyfriend @whynotdoit and her friends who are mostly cheaters are always proud of the Facebook group of 800 members that she is one of three admins. So I’ll make it clear about that group, how she became admin and what she did for her group.
And for her position as one of four managers of Teamvn; let’s see what she did in Teamvn and if she still deserves that position.

So my response to all her feedback is: @hanggggbeeee is a fraud and also a master of making excuses and she still continues with many bad behaviors.

2. How @hanggggbeeee became admin and what she did for her group

Everyone knows that @hanggggbeeee, @a-alice and @nguyenthanh received huge support from a Vietnamese whale on Steemit as he wanted to support Vietnamese and invite more Vietnamese to join Steemit. Then these 3 people opened a Facebook group to invite their friends to join Steemit and they all joined to receive big upvotes from that Vietnamese whale. But their friends are mostly cheaters and they have cheated many times on Steemit. That Facebook group has about 800 people but only about 150 people are active. The Vietnamese whale could not support them anymore and these people all joined the Teamvn group to seek a new source of rewards.

When the Vietnamese whale wanted to use all his power to support new Vietnamese members on Steemit, he stopped supporting Hanggggbeeee, A-alice and Nguyenthanh. To @hanggggbeeee this became a struggle between her and other Vietnamese members in her Facebook group to stay on that whale’s upvote list. So she made the plagiarism cleaning campaign, the purpose was to remove some Vietnamese members from the upvote list and be replaced by old members like her, A-alice and Nguyenthanh. This is shown here in her own words:

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This explains why she‘s the one who made the plagiarism cleaning campaign but also cheated many times and covered up for other cheaters. So the real leader of the Facebook group is the Vietnamese whale. He chose the wrong people who cheated and lied to gain support to be admins. @hanggggbeeee is same like Xuân Tóc Đỏ, a famous character in Vietnam who has no knowledge, no talents but took advantage when the chance came to jump to an undeserved top position. This was possible in that fictional world because that society is full of silly people. I hope Steemit and the Vietnamese community is a good environment where we will not give support to create monsters like that.

3. @hanggggbeeee against the spirit of Steemit and Vietnamese

As a decentralized platform, Steemit allows people to express their opinions and views. But when a Vietnamese wrote about Vietnamese politics @hanggggbeeee downvoted him as she said “all Steemit communities have an important rule that don’t encourage people talk about politic and religion” but she's okay with other political posts which have a different point of view to his post. She wanted him to not use the vn tag for his posts about Vietnamese politics, even though it was a relevant tag. She’s younger than that Vietnamese man but she spoke rudely to him. Other Vietnamese who have high respect and positions in the Vietnamese community like @quochuy, @carlpei, @nuoctuong spoke to this author politely and upvoted his post even though they have a different point of view. You can check here https://steemit.com/politics/@haccolong/it-is-difficult-to-free-fools-from-the-chains-they-revere

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Minds CEO Bill Ottman said more than 100,000 new Vietnamese users have registered Minds accounts in less than a week, and now account for about 10 percent of the entire user base of the platform.
Source on 6 Jul 2018

A huge amount of Vietnamese users who are using Facebook which is reportedly home of 53 million Vietnamese are jumping out of Facebook to look for new open-source social networks. How do they react when they know that on Steemit a Vietnamese girl would downvote them because they use their freedom of speech.

And did @hanggggbeeee say the right thing about the rules and the spirit of the Steemit platform?

4. Teamvn reported her bad behaviors

On 24 Sep 2018, @takosdiary reported that @hanggggbeeee covered up her friend @kemice who cheated on many contests on Tasteem-vn and Tasteem.

Someone reported to @hanggggbeeee that her friend Kemice used photos from Instagram without stating the source on this post. Then Tasteem-vn supporter @carlpei found out that Kemice edited the photos on Steemit to cut the logo out of those photos, so Kemice cheated on Tasteem-vn intentionally. @hanggggbeeee told @carlpei to create a cancel command on that post to cancel all the reward from Tasteem. But then @hanggggbeeee (who is the admin) privately only cancel the score on Tasteem-vn which means nothing, as they still keep the reward from Tasteem for her friend.

In the Teamvn Vietnamese community discord chanel, @hanggggbeeee made up many excuses for her bad behavior. She even asked @takosdiary to apologize to her and implied that @takosdiary had a bad personality. But then when other people pointed out all her lies and fake excuses, @hanggggbeeee just ran away like a coward, gave no apology and did not take any responsibility. So you can see her true personality and conduct. She’s a fraud, has no morals or self-respect and should not be a manager of Teamvn.
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5. @hanggggbeeee covered up more than one cheater.

When @thethor1122 wrote a review post of Vincom plaza without reviewing any restaurants there, it failed to meet the rules of the Tasteem contest, but @hanggggbeeee and supporter @ngocbich only gave warning command which means nothing. Then @lekang_ the manager of Tasteem had to hide that post.

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@hanggggbeeee explained to Thethor1122 that she’s not the one who hide his post and blamed @lekang, saying “lekang is too strict”. @lekang was only doing his job as a Tasteem manager by following its rules thus he was not too strict. @hanggggbeeee wanted to protect her friends by giving them much lighter verdicts. Some of her friends’ posts for Tasteem contests received warnings from @steemcleaners for either spamming or plagiarism too. Again, only cheaters can accept and support cheaters.

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How many other cheaters has @hanggggbeeee covered up but we do not know about?

6. Tasteem pay @hanggggbeeee well as Tasteem-vn manager so why did she make a cheap, low value Tasteem-vn contest for Vietnamese community?

@hanggggbeeee receive 30% upvote of Tasteem for every post every day, about $15-20 each post, and on some days she makes 2 posts. @hanggggbeeee earnt $43,42 from 3 posts of contest: Weekly contest: The best feedback for Tasteem-vn’s improvement - 15 STEEM give away!, contest result announcement post Thông báo kết quả Cuộc thi viết nhận xét và đóng góp cho Tasteem-vn and Summarization of feedback from “The best feedback for Tasteem-vn’s improvement” Contest which took all ideas from participants.

She suddenly dropped the prize for the winner from 15 Steem to 5 Steem and added 4 prizes to all other participants who are her friends @a-alice, @thanhquyen, @rachelssi, @kemice. She made the excuse that “After reviewed all the articles joining contest and consulted the opinion from the winner @carlpei, I decided to change the prizes.” But then @carlpei mentioned that she did not discuss with him about prize changing, she made another excuse “I consulted not from discussing with you, from your opinion when you said “don’t need the prize, just want to contribute””. So @hanggggbeeee used his kind words to cut the prize suddenly.

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Everyone can see that @carlpei feedback is so deep with big vision and smart solutions that she as a Tasteem-vn manager can not have. So she shows disrespect to him while she earned money from his ideas. She can not give away small amount of Steem that she receive from Tasteem for great contribution for Tasteem-vn’s improvement. You can see her real personality in all her behaviors.

SUMMARY

@Hanggggbeeee‘s friends made excuse for her that all her mistakes are minor, this is a view from cheaters. Management should be held to a better standard, all those mistakes show the personality of someone with low morals and ethics. She chases fame to get benefits and has no self-respect to resign when people can see all her bad behaviors.

After my first report with all supporting evidence, @hanggggbeeee showed off her relationship with Travis @jhsung2002 - a manager of Tasteem for the Vietnamese community by showing her chat with him. Can Tasteem make public the requirement of their managers? I wonder what traits and quality of manager that Tasteem are looking for? Is this because @hanggggbeeee has a Korean boyfriend so Tasteem chose her to be Tasteem-vn manager? What are your views on this @lekang @siamcat?

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@donkeypong, @ricko66, @analisa, @kevinwong Vietnamese community has the same problem as other managers in the region, like Tasteem manager in the Thailand community.

@chronocrypto, @themarkymark, I know you both support good and genuine users, so please check on this bad Steemians behaviour. We would appreciate your support in the Vietnamese community.

So @ned, as the biggest delegater to @tasteem, please take care of how the projects you invest in are working and how they use your money for human resources. Please don’t ignore holes on your ship.

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Steemit is an open platform. It is, however, tied to financial influence so that those with more financial power in the system will have a bigger say. So I can appreciate that you are doing your part to convince the participants of this community to take notice. It's obvious that that you have great interest and respect for the community to be writing and research so much on this particular topic. I see shortfalls in this system as well. It is a bit frustrating sometimes that the rules don't apply to certain people and interpreted differently because of who they are or who they know. I find that living like someone such as @haccolong would be best. Follow your own rules and principles and ignore the judgment of others. Continue on your mission of writing about the injustice and wrongs. If one person listen, it's one more than 0, right?

Thanks for calling my name :)
I did not care about this problem, maybe I would read what's going on here.
By the way, visit my blog, have an idea I deployed, you can comment!
Finally, I'm sorry I did not write much :(

I have to admit that the first time I read the previous report from @bettervn and I took it for granted. For the sake of the benefit of the doubt, I went back and verified that information. The result was that most of them are true. In consequence, 2 of them had been punished for what they had done (Justice had been served therefore I won't name them again).

Being a teamvn Moderator and Tasteem Supporter who witnessed the matter above therefore, I will exercise my duty of care to testify. I agree with bettervn on point number 4 and 6 about what had happened. I am open and willing to testify any challenge against my statement, feel free to ask me if you have any question.

I respect the freedom of speech, I may disagree of what you say but I will fight for your freedom of speech and for this reason I wholeheartedly support the point number 3 in the report. You have my respect for the notion of encouraging the freedom of speech. To me, information is information regardless of the source. It is fine if anyone disagrees with the contents of the report, but do not disagree with the contents because of the mouth of that said them. Bettervn is an anonymous account but the information is information nonetheless. Attacking @bettervn because the account is anonymous is ad hominem.

Having said that, I also acknowledge what hangbe has done for the community. However, 'a good act does not wash out the bad, nor a bad act the good. Each should have its own reward.' so as long as you are willing to blind yourself to 'a good act can cancel out a bad act' then we won't be able to find a balance between them. Justice will reward and punish accordingly, if you believe in justice.

Dear, friend.

Hi, I'm Travis from team Tasteem.

First of all, @tavid is not me.. He's just a random innocent guy from the kr community. Please edit your post for his sake. bb

Also, most of your claims about Tasteem are completely misunderstood, however, though I do not feel like correcting any of them since I do respect some other points you've made here.

If your goal is to improve the entire community and to have some productive discussion with our team, you can always talk to me, we're always welcome for that. I'm open in our discord channel, also on my steemit blog.

Thank you @jhsung2002 for reading my post and taking time to engage with the information and evidence I have provided.

I feel I have done my part in bringing these issues to light. I have kept my post based on verifiable evidence. It is now upto the Steem and Tasteem community to decide how they wish to respond.

I did not write these post for any favour or self reward and therefore think it is best for the community to discuss these issues in public, with full disclosure, so there are no backroom agreements that lead to the community being unable to review and respond to matters before they are implemented.

Steem is an open source and decentralised project, I hope @tasteem uses the same philosophy to come to better decisions.

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Interesting. I am glad that you have said everything I want to say. I have tried to support the Vietnamese on Steemit and was very disappointed. A lot of them only care about how to make a quick buck, dumped a whole bunch of rubbish on Steemit. I have tried to encourage and support them, instead of learning and improving their writing, they have turned around and insulting me. @hanggggbeeee also formed a whole gang to insulted me. How stupid is that. Insulting someone who tried to make you better, it's like insulting your own parents.

Then one day I told myself, enough is enough.

Waste no more energy to those idiots. If they want to be stupid for life, let them be.

Hi anh @nguoiviet
I see this is your own contradiction and her. You and she have disagreed about the idea and direction.
. She does not entice people to fight against you. That's the only thing I want to say.Also, you should not say people are stupid. Everyone has their own way of choosing, no one has the right to force them to do something.

Apparently you don't understand my whole post.

I was surprised to see this article and more surprised when I was mentioned. Bettervn is probably making Vietnam better and this is probably the way you do. Well, many people may not like this and even me. I do not support you when facing a young girl, I can not say what you write is right or wrong because I really do not know about this. But I think this post will have some impact on our community.
The other thing I see in this article is that the Vietnamese community on Steemit is like real life. It is hard to get solidarity and grow. SO SAD :(

TL:DR

Do people really spend so much time doing this nowadays on Steem?

Useful vn posts = better vn = better steemit


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All photos taken by me. Feel free to use for your next pho posts.

I need more pho. Gimme some pho.

#hungry #food #pho

I'm pretending that I understand. LOL

!popcorn

Great work. :)
So what have you done for people? Or do nothing and just jealous with other’s success? You must be really mad when seeing my posts get high reward, right? :))) I know your feelling, feelling of loser. Feelling of money digger. :)))

I think someone who has done nothing like you should not say anything.

You can read the post below to see what people comment about me. I work for those people, work for someone respect me, for someone deserves with my dedication. I dont have obligation to satisfy someone like you. I believe that I have tried my best for my community.
https://steemit.com/tasteem/@hanggggbeeee/official-response-for-reports-of-my-behaviors

Hope you have something better to do. And if you have too much free time, you can do something to help people like what I’m doing, to deserve with your name @bettervn. :))

I advise you not to be jealous of the success of others. You spend so much time looking at other people, your whole life is just jealous of me. Please live like a man, publicize your identity :) I already know who you are.You never help someone. Have you joined Steemit when Steemit - Vietnam has only 5-6 people yet?
The group is only about 20-30 people are our friends. Do not forget, you are also a "friend." Without us, you do not know Steemit.

We are your guide, helping you to have more knowledge and background on Steemit. We are the ones who take you to Steemit, without @nguyenthanh , you do not even know what Steemit is. You are even a bestfriend of nguyenthanh, But you always jealous and harm him, you "stabbed him". Why can you be such a dirty person? You still hate us even though we forgive you.We have guided you
about Steemit. We provide you with free knowledge, we provide you with trust through Meetups. What role did you play in the community meetings?

Hi @bettervn, I'm @checky ! While checking the mentions made in this post I noticed that @nuocmam doesn't exist on Steem. Did you mean to write @npocmak ?

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Oh you got my point wrong my friend lol. I was asking what you did for this community while someone else keep promoting steemit to their close friends and share the vision. Before tasteem there weren't people who jealous of her like this. But now? ..sigh.... Is that money even make me cheater? .......

I wonder what traits and quality of manager that Tasteem are looking for? Is this because @hanggggbeeee has a Korean boyfriend so Tasteem chose her to be Tasteem-vn manager?

hahahahaha This lines make my day, my friend!
you know?? actually @ned is my best frie.... and likely @DonaldTrum....

Next time hope I can see what you did for this community, not what someone else did
since someone ,obviously, did nothing has nothing wrong and it doesn't mean you are not worse lol.

I do not know why you wrote such articles. @hanggggbeeee She is a very hard-working, supportive, motivating community participant. One time I wanted to give up but thanks to her I kept sticking with steemit. You are a selfish person

Hi @bettervn,
Bettervn means make Vietnam better, right? But when I read all of your post, total 2 posts. I see nothing except personal attack against @hanggggbeeee.

All what you have been doing like you are jealous with others, a person use a nickname to say your opinion like you, I think you so ugly and inferiority.

If you confident with what you say, let's show me who you are and what you do make Vietnam better, don't like a fool's only know personal attacks.

Finally, I want talk to you: A person can not live to please all people. @hanggggbeeee, although she is not perfect but I always support and trust her. Thank you to let's me know you are a bad person!

Ghen ăn tức ở muôn đời nát =)))
Cần ai đó ship cho “anh” này một cái váy😘
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Because you are so bad you have to use fake nick. If you publicly face your face, you will scare us for your bad points. I'm not angry, you do not deserve. you are too bad! a man but cowardly and despicable.

Sao em biết người này là con trai? Lỡ là con gái thì sao? A đâu có thấy họ tự nhận giới tính gì đâu nhỉ. :))

E biết từ bài đầu tiên r. Biết rõ là ai luôn a ạ😂

Người quen của bọn em à? Nc mặt đối mặt có phải hay hơn ko. Cứ thích tạo drama. :))

Từng là bạn rất thân của nguyenthanh 😂😭nên e mới bảo dùng nick thật đi rồi nói chuyện

all my sins.
I admit my mistake in the previous comment. You can reread the comment in the previous post and do not pretend to be naive to mention my name. I'm sure you hate them, so you do these things.And you do not need my name tag in your post. Why do not you tag your main nick on this post ?? :)))))

I was out of the Steemit group, ..
However, you should also get out of Steemit. Because you have a lot of sins, but you did not use your real nick to face us. You use too many "virtual nick" on Steemit to make money. I am sure you have a lot of sins and if you use your real account, you will be reported by the community.

I don't understand what @teamvn give me to reward? :))) is clearly slanderous. You fabricate the Vietnamese community as fraudsters make money, do not forget you are also one of them.Looking at the two posts, I am sure you have been familiar with them for a long time. I have read their resignation message and I have also thoroughly investigated every issue you speed up in the article, it really nonsense. You seem to be deliberately lying,deliberately exaggerated the story .( slander, fabricate and insult others..,,)

Một bài viết pr cho @hanggggbeeee khá hoàn hảo. khi đọc xong a thấy bài viết này để nâng hằng bee lên chứ phốt gì đâu. E @hanggggbeeee đang có ý định dấn thân vào Showbit hả , mà tạo nick tự PR mình thế. Hahaha

I was mentioned in the post, so I want to explain my command. That post let us test our command and the first week when vn.tasteem.io launching, we were allowed to try the command.
Before using any command, I have thoughts and considerations. With the article above, the post has gone rambling but there is something small review of the restaurant in the mall. The post expresses the enthusiasm and effort of the writer and has little to do with the restaurant.
After I commented on that post, he said that he did not have money so I did not eat, I did not know that before!
I just explained that, if you have any questions please go to the room: abuser-report of tasteemvn

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