Open or closed minded?

in Proof of Brain4 years ago (edited)


Do you know how we can make everyone happy?

We can wipe the token and do another initial distribution right now.

How long will the happiness last?

I'll answer that for you. Until more people arrive.


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This is the flaw in the Proof Of Brain-Delegated Proof Of Stake mashup. There will be no absolute fair distribution as the token/project grows.

Do you know why we're having lots of debates, dramas, and disputes, right now? Firstly, because I have the privilege to say what I feel without fear.

The prime reason?

Because we've grown exponentially and the initial token distribution doesn't cut it for the scale and experience of the platform that everyone wants.

Sunshine, rainbows, head in the sand.

Some of us have been trying to create a compounding middle class, right? That gets forgotten very easily.


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We have multiple issues (and are by no means limited to);

  • How do the larger stakeholders reward all of the good content?
  • Some opinions and points of view gain more traction based on stake size (because not everyone thinks for themselves, people are motivated by different things* I'll get to this)
  • Proof Of Brain's ideals are sacrificed due to compromises for growth and happiness amongst the crowd

What do these issues require?;

  • Solutions to distribution (to plug the holes in the ship)
  • Openness and debate
  • Brainpower and creativity
  • Innovation
  • REALITY CHECKS


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I dropped a comment on @vempromundo's post today amid a somewhat emotional frame of mind (check out my recent post about "my awakening", it might answer some present and future questions if you are sharp).

I've done a little bit of self-reflecting on the comment made, and I have to say; I regret nothing.

It's opened my eyes to the point of view of many people here on Proof Of Brain. They're motivated by fear. The rewards are for survival, and when this is threatened, the claws come out. It's human nature, and I don't have the experience to say I wouldn't act the same way.

Because I am privileged, I don't rely on POB to eat.

But let's hold on a second...

POB has been active for 3 months now? Give or take? Am I wrong to say that some people here are privileged because they can earn a living on POB?

Because someone can earn a living, does that eradicate all elements of greed?

Here is where the cogs in the brain start whirring, and people realise how easily the true purpose of Proof Of Brain gets endangered within this flawed system because of the need to survive.


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DPoS destroys the weak-minded.

I've got minimal experience in this space, but I've spoken with people who have more. They are people who are their true genuine selves without fear. They say their mind and chuckle at the naivety present.

If Proof Of Brain is not Proof Of Brain, it will crash, burn, fail, burn, crash, sink, and explode.

Right now, we have some level of diplomacy.

There are discussions and some debates (or pointless dramas, as some like to state), which have opened some eyes, changed some behaviours, and ended up shining light or dark on some users. Is that a bad thing? What's the opposite? Complete chaos and no direction or expression?

Obviously, this isn't a black and white issue. It takes intelligence to understand this.


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We're all human.

Open your minds to possibilities and stop getting caught up on the "downsides" of conflict and open, honest communication. If you cannot allow yourself to express your thoughts and feelings, then you are a prisoner. Not only to the platform but to yourself.

The people who are afraid of this (generally) are the people who are surviving. That is a fucking shame, but it's the world we live in. I am not coming across as empathetic here in the slightest, although my point directs at the ideals and culture of Proof Of Brain, not personally at any given member of the community.

I'm also going to touch some nerves with the following question in this context... what did you do before POB? That is the initial question people need to be asking themselves, then some introspective thinking is required and a couple of blunt questions to yourself asking;

"What is the main reason why I am on Proof Of Brain? Does my reason line up with the ideals behind Proof Of Brain?"

This is where the divide is.

Decentralised, centralised, diplomatic, chaotic, powerful, weak...

The debate doesn't even begin if you can't answer the questions above honestly to yourself.



If people want to get insert word here at this content, I'd say the post was a glowing success.

(I'm still working on this "speaking my raw emotionally charged mind" technique though. It's quite freeing, even if it does make me come across as a right prick)

shout out to @mykos, @vempromundo, and others for the inspiration





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what did you do before POB?

I was surviving in PoS.

What is the main reason why I am on Proof Of Brain?

I joined the blockchain 4 years ago. I'm a polyglot who knows 4 languages. English, French, Arabic and Russian. I had a very hard life. You can read it here if you are interested : A part of my life. I left the country I lived in and I had to move to Russia thinking that I will find a good use case from my educations and knowing languages. I desapointed and had to spend 10 years here to get the citizenship instead of improving my skills and finding a good work for my future. I had to study specialities that are not chosen by me, because I had to prolongate visa every year and the only visa I cuold have is student one. Because I wasn't allowed to work as a foreigner here. While studyings I had to work at the same time and all the works I had weren't related with my specialities and languages I know. When I finished my study, I had to get married to get some papers to keep living here. After getting married I finally found the blockchain where I start creating content and earning from that. A lot happened and you may know all the story till hive was created. All that time I enjoyed earning from my creating and the ideas I implemented in @dcooperation. I built a big friendly community that was destroyed after. That's an other story. But, I know that I get all those followers, and all the work I've done is thanks to the proof of brain consept. I had of course to adapt with the proof of stake, but still something always missed. I liked to open my mind somewhere and find more likeminded people. I liked to keep using my brain because I have enough experience to do so. That's why I joined proof of brain tribe. I found as well here enough people I knew and I'm sure they know me. I feel that proof of brain even woke up a lot of those who wanted to see this concept alive. That's why a lot are here. Proof of brain started about 4 years ago and now it's taking a fresh start again !

Does my reason line up with the ideals behind Proof Of Brain?

It's up to the community to decide depending on the content I create !

Thanks for the inspiration !


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You're a very seasoned writer and to Some extent you take a lot into cognizance, read patterns and study behaviours before you actually create your posts and that's Why I value its quality. To me there's no sentiments attached, While im growing my stake to join the elite and have a mainstay im not dependent on it to survive hence it gives me a clearer mind and this is how its been with hive too, leo and cub as well.
The fact is, People are motivated by fear like you've rightly said.
As for Why im here, I guess im here to increase my chances of having another investment for the long-term and of course we'd take profits along the way, while building too, spreading the vote and maintaining a healthy system. There's no sugarcoating it.


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to be honest, I am not sure what is going on with POB. One thing that needs some serious work is the front-end access to it. The current, (what seems to be pre-hf 20 front end from steemit) is terrible. I have to vote two or three times on some days, on days like today the images on the feed are missing, and trying to claim the tokens via the wallet is worse than trying to vote. Also I have no ad-blocker for fire-fox so I need to resolve that now and find an extension so I am not annoyed so much. And comments are back to on occasion doubling up which is so very much annoying for me, so I comment less.


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Well, I feel like I'm a little bit out of depth on certain issues you've addressed and I believe this is something of the "bigger whales", the big holders that don't quite show up around here...
But somehow I understand the problem and I hope I can always help to find the best solutions for the community,
I can't say that I'm completely part of a team here (are we have teams?), but I feel part of the community, and I definitely have it as my "home" here at Hive.

Well, what was I doing before the PoB? I joined Hive just before this brutal growth of the PoB. I came motivated by @hanhuk and hoped to try life on Leo, but finance is not my business (I can barely beat my accounts LOL), I ended up identifying a lot more with Ecency/PeakD and finally POB. Of course I have ambitions to make money here and to really grow, of course I do, and yes, I need this money to help with the bills, but I have (and have always had) a very sincere and firm sense of community, I have always taken into account the importance of careful production of good content (which is still a linguistic challenge in terms of translation) and also of curating community writings.

I spent a lot of time and determination during Steemit's time in the past and I haven't done even 5% of what I've been doing here. So it's impossible not to generate expectations and hopes with this project, and whatever you can do to keep it growing and improving, I'm with you! :)


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I have no problem expressing myself even if it costs me, and it has and still costs me a lot, connections, hours of sleep, job opportunities, health(yes), etc, etc., and I'm still young(not so much)...

But lately, I've been looking forward to getting enough to support myself and my family. So if something doesn't work, I don't focus as much as I could.
At the moment I'm also taking a programming course (now I'm waiting to start a test, so I'm driving away from the anxiety by reading about the conflict that's been happening at POB hahahaha), then every time-consuming action like writing long texts, researching, etc., is coldly calculated, and if it doesn't pay off at all, I don't want to invest time in it.

About how to solve some of the issues that have been happening, as I said, I have some ideas, I hope to be able to expose them by the beginning of next week if the schedule allows.

And it's nice to see again a mention of the idea of ​​POB beyond Hive.


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This is so deep.


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I am always very skeptical about the decision to "live off of rewards." I don't see this as a guaranteed income. A few whales stop buying and we are spiralling down in value and everyone "employed" by DPoS is looking for a new gig. That said, I live off of my carpentry skills and am privileged enough to do this for fun / side hustle / hobby / self interest because I have a fairly stable job that pays the bills.

Whale's that are established that decide to "retire", that is different. I am talking about looking at the 400 POB I staked last week and deciding that would be enough to put food on the table if I sold instead... so let's stop showing up to frame houses and go full time POB!?

This is a 3 month old project... far from a secure income source. The upward potential looks good from where I am sitting... but the downward potential could be devastating if you are trying to make ends meet with it. I can't pretend to know what it is like to fear for your very livelihood, but I also know throwing all of my eggs in one basket isn't the best idea in the world.

That said, POB owes nothing to anyone. It is code built into a complex and growing, yet volatile marketplace. We are built into it's distribution mechanism and as such, play a role in it. This is by design, an experiment in society and governance in relation to markets. It is fascinating to see what develops. I must say that I have been around long enough to be a bit numb to some of these "issues" but at the same time, the way forward is together and that is far easier said than done.

Nice post. Manually curated!


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FEAR is important to the growth and development of the human species. We are here at this point in time because our ancestors unlike other ape-men knew what to avoid and when to avoid it. The same can be said about bravery.

When it comes to social interaction and how we engage as a species with one another there is no one-size-fits-all solution. And this might sound controversial but FREEDOM is a luxury, not a right. All throughout history those who have been free are people from privileged backgrounds or societies and there has also been a cap in terms of expressing that said freedom. It is not fair but it is the reality and for me, the reality is more important than any ideals. Anyone who loses touch with reality easily finds themselves in awkward situations.

One way to give people a voice is by empowering them (through proper education and wealth creation). I live in the poverty capital of the world so I understand how easy it is for people to lose their sense of dignity for basically nothing.


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The bear has always played on people's minds. I saw it happen a few years ago. During the Bull people were generous as long as they were making money. It was like a living pipedream. If I learned anything in my lifetime it is that if anything looks too good to be real then it probably won't last long. Then the bear came and people started to get protective and the community fell to pieces.

For any community to continue there needs to be a real need to be there whether if it is emotional or financial or professional but as long as the community is fulfilling the needs of the individuals the community rocks. But as soon as one feels left out or his or her needs unsatisfied they begin to look elsewhere. What complicates things is when one adds to the expectations they came with in the beginning or take for granted the privileges they have now.

When I came to POB it was because I noticed people actually read my blog. On Hive I had some people reading every once and while but in POB people read my blog every day. When I learned that POB was worth something I didn't mind having to wade through the lugging front end to post because I knew I would find rewards. I don't think many of us could make a living on POB but it POB rewards sure help.


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I prefer open minded


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