I was backstabbed a couple days ago. It hurt but pain fades and afterwards comes less, or no, pain. I'm still waiting for that but.
Backstabbed typicLly means that one has been deceived, betrayed, undermined and compromised by someone they trusted - not a nice feeling and can leave a lot of pain but that's not what I'm talking about; I was backstabbed differently - literally.
I hammered my body back in the day while performing my job functions and (sadly) I'm getting older; I've suffered through severe lower back pain on and off since my mid-thirties but this last bout has been more debilitating - a lot worse than severe.
I went to the doctor ($136), probably much to the disgust of those who prefer natural remedies, because I needed to do something about it. Phrases like, "open your back up and fuse the nerves in that area," were mentioned. Nope, that's not happening.
Of course, I couldn't just boil up the leaves of some fucken tree and mix them in with some frilled neck lizard shit and the secretions from a forest mushroom found in the mountains of Borneo then rub into the area either; I honestly don't know if that's a common natural remedy but you get the point. Useless to me.
Anyway, I had a CAT scan ($387), went back to the doctor ($136), and it revealed the issues and before even thinking about back surgery I decided to go for the other option which was ultrasound-guided cortisone injections ($793). Not a great secondary option,but marginally better than surgery. The strategy was to get some initial relief then embark on a program of physiotherapy and other things and who knows what that'll fucken cost! I have top-level private health cover though so that'll help.
Does getting backstabbed in the spine with cortisone in two locations hurt? You bet your fucken ass it hurts. It hurt then and hurts now, a day later, but the cortisone should be kicking in soon (if it's going to actually provide any relief...because it doesn't always work). I hope it works though, there's no refunds and I need some pain relief.
It was a fair amount of money but I've been rather crippled and inhibited by the pain and for a vigorously active fellow that not acceptable; I'm working through it of course and trying to lead a normal life (with pain killers), but I had to do something to find some relief. I'm not a big fan of physiotherapy but will go through the motions and see where it leads. I'll do what I can to avoid surgery though, no fucker is cutting my back up if I can help it - the needles were bad enough.
Back onto backstabbing of the other kind now.
Has someone you trust backstabbed you? Hopefully not, but I know how common it can be considering general human nature. Has it happened to you, or have you done it to someone else? Have you had cortisone injections in your spine or anywhere else? (I had one also in the heel of my foot a while back and that shit is like fucken torture!)
Let me know in the comments below.
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You said lower back..I have similar pain on the right side but never thought of getting a needle shot. Backstabbing hurts more than anything else. And it leaves a scar for long time. The recent was with my cousin. I shared a good business plan. We were to start it on partnership, but I learnt, he already began on my idea of his own.
I've had some issues on and off over my life, my job when I was in my twenties and early thirties didn't help much, also gave me tinnitus (constant ringing in my ears) due to high noise, loads of bangs and stuff. Not good, that drives me nuts 24/7. Anyway, the back issue comes and goes, sometimes strong and others painful and debilitating.
Hopefully your issue isn't as bad and with the actual cousin issue, not good, being backstabbed never does. Sorry that happened.
I honestly don’t know 1 person that had back surgery and was happy with the outcome. I’m kind of surprised so many doctors recommend it because I think a lot of them end up getting sued.
Pain relief is huge though! I would avoid anything physically addictive like opiates.
I think most homeopathic therapies are nonsense. But you could start looking into foods that don’t cause as much inflammation, such as, less processed foods and more home style cooking (steamed rice, home cooked chicken, home cooked steak, steamed veggies). I love grilling but that tends to not be “good for you” depending on how it’s done.
I realize I’m being a bit of an ass by acting like what you can eat will fix your back. I think it really just depends on your situation.
I've not heard much of a positive nature about it either and it's a fairly big risk considering what one's back does for a human.
I don't eat processed foods, fast foods and such things. I eat fresh produce and food cooked and prepared by myself or my girlfriend. I barely eat any carbs either. To do anything else wouldn't work well with my condition and considering I have to inject myself before anything I consume, it's just not worth eating the wrong thing. So, changing my diet won't help, I'm already doing that and have done for years.
I'm going to try some physio or such treatment to try and fix bulging discs thing and with the inflammation, it's considered at the extreme range so I'm still working on what's going to happen there. Years of having to do some pretty tough things has taken a toll and while I emerged mostly intact (mentally and physically) I pay a price every day of my life.
Dang I was hoping diet would help but it sounds like you already got that covered. Well, I am sorry about the back pain, I know people that have back issues and it is rough.
Stay safe mentally and physically if you can. Even if you paid a price, you seem to have turned out pretty well, at least based on our conversations anyways.
Cheers man! And once again, please stay safe!
Back transplant. Is that a thing?
(Frankenstein made it work I'm told) 🙄
Maybe.... but sounds risky 😅
There is a lot of cool stuff with robotics they do now for people who lost legs or arms but not sure if it is at a point yet where I would dabble with getting a robotic spine. Being a cyborg would be kind of cool though....
Not trying to make light of your situation but I do try to have a good time even when shit sucks 😊
Remember that movie Elysium? He has that cool exoskeleton thing. I could see myself rocking that although it'd make my business suits fit less well. Be worth it though.
Man don't ever ever get surgery on your back! It's very risky in case of errors or problems... A friend of my sister in law did a back surgery, 24 years, after the surgery her bladder wouldn't work anymore and now she has to use catheterization for her whole life... And the surgery was done in an excellence center... Even doctors don't suggest touch there
If you find ways to go forward, that's better, try whatever else even a shaman rather than surgery... Prices are a bit cheaper than here though, like 20-30€ less at your place...
I was backstabbed by that one that was my best friend, disappearing after finding a "better" company after 9 years of friendship, and on other similar aswell
I know, I'm not keen on it...so much can go wrong. Surgery is not always the best option, just an easy one for doctors and surgeons, they get paid.
I was backstabbed a few times in my life by close friends and it's not ever nice; it's for that reason I'm so distrusting of and careful with people now. I'd be surprised if there was anyone who said it had not happened or had done it to somewhere else, I'd say they were lying.
And you sign the no responsibility paper, so their ass is safe...
I'm also very careful now, of course I give a soft friendship, like with some colleagues, but deep one is very very rare
They made me sign a disclaimer even for the procedure I had the other day taking their liability away. We have no real choice in the matter.
Yeah, sign or get nothing... I signed so many I even forgot the count so far
Ya should have gone to the local Thai massage parlour($100) for some manipulation with the bonus of a happy ending,,,
...it works for me...
... with or without back pain!
A hundred bucks? I've heard it's only $89.95 but that might have been with the really fugly one. (fuggen ugly)
I guess there must be some munters in the business who give discounts
Always is.
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sorry to hear. have you tried chiropractic? it helps with my back pain. wish you get well soon!
Thanks for your wishes.
Think I could mention some kind of betrayal from my ex best friend. Thanks God, nothing more.
As for the other question, I know it's not quite the same thing, but about 7 years ago I had lumbar punture, so I literally had a stab in my spine :) and I received cortisone a few times through an intravenous infusion. I wish you a quick and successful recovery! ✊🏼💪🏼🤗
Best-friend betrayals can seem so terrible, right up there with partners. I'm sorry that happened to you, hopefully just an unpleasant memory you've put aside.
Anything with the back is a bad thing because it's so pivotal to what we do, movement, every single day. My issue even prevented sleep which is really what prompted me to do something because a lack of proper sleep rarely augments life rather, it can be quite damaging.
A pity you had your issue but it sounds like it's not ongoing so you're good to go now. Me? I'll live, for a while longer, and the agony from yesterday's injections has faded physically and emotionally as with most pain.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Yeah, they realy can. I think, if I'm not lying to myself, I think I somehow handled it quite well then and kinda forgave her.
I completely understand what you are describing. Haven't personally experienced it, but my fiancé has a disc hernia that isn't severe enough to require surgery, but he wakes up and goes to bed with that dull, constant hronic pain. He describes it exactly like something being permanently stuck in his spine and that he would need to pull it out in order to "see clearly and breathe again".
In my case, it was done for diagnostic purposes. Spine liquid was 100 percent fine, but they still diagnosed me with RRMS in the next months, based on the clinical picture itself. Thank God, I am doing well. I truly wish the same for you! 🙌🏼
Forgave? I'm slow to do that, or have been a lot in the past. I know they say it's the better thing to do but I'm not so sure. I write them off though, exit them in every way from my life. You're forgiving, not a bad way to be.
Your partner describes it well, I've felt the same. Not a good feeling and it effects all aspects of life.
I'm glad he's going ok and you too, I'm sure I'll get things under control, thanks for your well wishes.
Yep, I've had the injections. Had two back surgeries as well with an artificial disc implanted. Still had back issues after, but said fuck it, and finished my time in the Corps. Sucks now though.
I'll avoid surgery for as long as I ca I think; depends how it goes though I suppose. I'm not a quitter so understand you wanting to see your time out in the Corps. I guess those things have a way of catching up with us huh?
They do have a way of catching up, but I wouldn't change a thing.
I get ya.
Ergh that sounds freaking awful. Hope the cortisone injections help x_x
It wasn't nice but the pain of the process has faded away now. It'll be a week or two before the benefit (if any) will reveal itself and I'm certainly hoping it's going to provide some relief; then, I have to work on getting the situation rectified before it comes back when the cortisone wears off in six months.
I just went to the chiropractor myself the other day. I really don't enjoy visiting them, but I like going every six months or so just to make sure things are lined up right. While I don't like the cracking, I am a big fan of acupuncture and dry needling. That stuff is crazy amazing.
I've had both, dry needling in my shoulder for a frozen shoulder issue. Didn't tickle.
I had the same for a rotator cuff injury.
Ah yeah, they're not too good either. What injury is I suppose.
My father and brother are in a similar situation. My brother is suffering from it for over 10 years now, after a surfing accident that never really healed up. My father is just older. Good thing is that both my mom and dad are physical therapists with a ton of experience and extra formations. Hence, from my view - physical therapy might be a good thing. The right exercises can do wonders. But you'd have to find a really good PT.
I've never gotten any cortisone yet, besides the overload produced by my body during hyper-stressful times. Metaphorically, yes, I got back stabbed many times. Lessons I had to learn to regulate my eagerness to trust people. I think I did back stab some folks too, but not on purpose. Once it was due to a comment I made, loose tongue, slipped a secret and that brought some trouble. Another was in a relationship, for not telling the truth, lying to myself and her about what I wanted. Not sure if that counts.
I wish you a speedy and complete recovery!
Backs are notoriously difficult to work with I think, I've dealt with back issues for a long time and made life work but there's been times when it's been pretty wretched. So many people have issues; I wonder if it's due to something we're doing now that didn't happen in the past, or people just accepted it and didn't make an issue in the past?
As for backstabbing...I suppose it can come out in various ways and no matter which, it's rarely enjoyable. Just another indication of human nature and how fallible the species is.
Maybe people were stronger in the past? The work included a lot more exercise and heavy lifting to begin with, and the best protection for the body is a good set of muscles. I doubt that they instinctively knew how to correctly lift stuff.
Bend at the knees.
I can still hear my father half-shout: "Immer aus den Knien heben!" (Always lift from the knees!) He did say that the other day, when we were moving some of mom's furniture :-D
Haha!
Isn't it funny how we remember certain things our parents said and then find ourselves using the same dialogues years later. I do that now and catch myself thinking, fuck, dad used to say that.
You have no idea! Raising Lily is having that thought all the time. Some phrases stick to you forever, and passed down just like genes.
Physio is fantastic. Physiofit at Modbury have always done be good, otherwise hit me up for some recommendations of actual names for you to track down if you want someone that I wish I would still go see. She was fantastic and had a great sense of humour, to boot. I think she practices somewhere on Henley Beach Road now.
I have a physio already, reasonably happy but am not sure what benefit it will have considering the specific nature of the situation, probably little.