Good day to you, today we are going to look into different governance models for LBI. We understand this will be a hot topic but it's something that needs to be addressed and planned from the start. I hope by the time you are finished reading this post, you will have a better understanding of how we envision LBI's future in terms of governance.
Let's paint the picture
I want to make it 100% clear governance will come from token holders otherwise it is not true DEFI. The content team will be focused on delivering good content. @silverstackeruk's focus is on asset management and when we get a gaming team, they will only be concerned about gaming for LBI. We should start to build small teams, each focused on doing a specific role with LBI. In order of importance, a governance team is next on the list. They say a picture can speak 1000 words so this is what's in my head to give you a better idea.
Governance model
Picking a governance model are thinking one up should I say is no easy task as we want to be fair to everyone but at the same time, we dont want every idea purposed to result in a token holder vote. I think governance voting should be used for important matters only and should be seldom.
Here is an example of how less voting is more
If we hosted 4 big votes with 5-6 proposals in each, per year every 13 weeks, we will gather much more information compared to doing 26 smaller votes of 1 purpose every 2 weeks. It would be very hard to get all LBI token holders to vote on each proposal every 2 weeks but much easier to get more people to vote on 5-6 purposes at the same time every 3 months. This gives much better results as each vote is collecting results for 5-6 proposals from each voter. It's also a lot less work intense and simpler to manage making easier it simple for the whole process to remain consistent.
@silverstackeruk will host the first governance vote from the @lbi-token account in around 5-10 days time. After a governance model is selected, it's 100% up to you guys to make it happen and build a governance team for LBI. The basic requirements for a governance team will be too...
- collect proposals
- re-blog proposal from @lbi-gov
- write non-biased pre-voting and official governance voting posts
- collect and count voting results and release the via results post
The governance team might change every 6 months, maybe people are voted in are out every 3 months are maybe it never changes and the team is permanent. We have lots of options to consider, below is one an example of how 6-month terms would work.
Example Governance model based on terms lasting 6 months
Simple 6-month term cycles
- Weeks 1-7 - Collect proposals
- Week 8 - Host pre-vote
- Week 9 - Host governance vote
- Weeks 10-20 - Collect proposals
- Week 21 -pre-vote
- Week 22 - Host governance vote
- Week 23-25 - Collect proposals
- Week 26 - Host the vote to select governance team for the next 6 months
- Rinse and repeat
Governance team, 3-5 people
Token holders that would like to nominate themselves to be part of the LBI governance team would upload a post using the tag #LBI detailing why they think they would make a good representative for token holders.
LBI tokens holders vote the nominates every 6 months and the top 3-5 voted in are the governance team for the next 6 months. No limit to carry over terms.
Proposals and voting
If you have a suggestion or proposal you would like to share, we'll try to make the progress simple and fair for everyone included. We are not saying that every proposal should are will be voted on but every proposal will have an equal chance with token holders deciding which proposals are most important to focus on for the coming 13 weeks.
We can host a pre-vote were all proposals submitted over the past 12 weeks are voted on. Token holders vote their top 3-5 liked and the top 5 voted on proposals go to governance voting for the final yes/no. The pre-vote can be considered a filter to remove unpopular proposals and focus on the best/most popular.
Simple 13-week voting cycles - handed by the governance team
- Weeks 1-11 - Token holders submit proposals by uploading a post using the tag #LBI
- Governance team will reblog your proposal from @lbi-gov account to lock it in
- Week 12 - Host pre-vote to select top 5 most like proposals
- Week 13 - Host governance vote and release results after 7 days
- Rise and repeat
Roundup
There are 1000 different ways we can go about this. The 6-month governance team cycle and 3-month governance voting cycles are to be viewed as examples to explain the idea but I think these models should be considered. From my own experience with trying to decentralize SPinvest, I learned that 1 person can not make it happen. 1 person has to set the rules to the game and it's up to others to either play are not play. If LBI token holders want true governance they will have to take it and work together to build a governance team and actively tick off the points of each cycle. I believe the LBI community are solid enough to gather together and create many mini teams all focusing on particular tasks. Each new team adding to the value of the project and to its future success.
I hope this gives a better idea if what we are thinking. There is no need to over complicate things as it's not required. We are not trying to do anything fancy here, governance is simply proposing ideas and gathering feedback by voting essentially. We will use LBI's scaled voting tier's to determine each token holders voting weight
- 10-99 LBIs will earn a vote equal to 1
- 100-499 LBIs will earn a vote equal to 2
- 500-2,499 LBIs will earn a vote equal to 3
- 2,500-9,999 LBIs will earn a vote equal to 4
- 10,000+ LBIs will earn a vote equal to 5
2 reoccurring questions
How can I buy LBI tokens?
Yes, can send any amount of LEO to @lbi-token no memo required. 1 LEO = 1 LBI
How long will LBI's be on sale?
We will issue them for as long as people buy them. When new token issuing numbers drop to under the trading volume on leoDEX/HE, we will consider hard capping the token. Notice of at 4 weeks will be given
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Since LBI is a hold/long range invest I think go for an initial one year time frame on the Governance Team. Also since LBI is an investment style vehicle I think keeping the quarterly phase for change proposals is a good idea. I can not think of any real bif happenings in June financial wise,(but I am not a finance person at all), that may be the month for re-voting the governance team. So first team in place til June, then the second vote for a new or re-elected team takes place.
Thanks for your input. June does seem like a quiet time in terms of financial happenings.
That is the normal system. Crypto, every day, is fireworks.
We are excited to see the thoughts of everyone.
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Just curious how frequently you do the LEO to LBI conversions. I sent some over earlier today and I haven't seen it come through yet. Love what you folks are doing over there by the way!
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You sent HIVE to the lbi-account.
Your first transaction was complete and the second one for HIVE has been refunded.
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Oh crap, for real? I am so sorry. Thanks for looking out for me.
All conversions are manually done by @silverstackeruk. It depends upon his schedule as to when the tokens get issued.
If he is around, it is within a short period of time. For those times he decides to sleep, waiting is required.
That is why it is stated that it will be delivered within 24 hours on the high end.
Fortunately, it is much quicker than that in most instances.
You can watch by monitoring the @lbi-token wallet. None of the LEO is powered up until the LBI for the LEO that came in is sent out. Hence just look at the staking entries and it is easy to see what is in queue.
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Great to see this investment fund growing and becoming soon a monster on Leo Finance. With the expansion it might be the most powerful account on the Hive blockchain community and with that it comes also responsibility. Hopefully this can influence the platform for the better and help improve it!
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That would be amazing. We'll push it and see how far we can go :)
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We are trying.
Ultimately, there will be more hands involved which is great for the overall stability of Leofinance especially if it does become a force on here.
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Great looking forward to the proposal.
Just curious what type of gaming team are you looking for?
If it is for dcity or related games I can try doing my best.
Regards.
It'll be any game that can make us money that's on HIVE. The problem we have is they need to be funded from LEO earnings so it might take a while before we have available funds. The few months the main focus will be on staking more LEO and getting involved with the wLEO pool :)
Gaiming is deffo on the to it list
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Great, Thanks for explanation.
I like the concept proposed - should help to get more people involved. I'm certainly happy to cast my vote on the important topics every 3 months. If I had to do it every 2 weeks I'd certainly miss out on some of the votes.
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Hey, thanks for the feedback. Less voting gives better results. Glad you agree :)
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I fully agree with that.
Also the 6 months cycle looks good to me. However, that can also be changed on the go by submitting the new model to voting. Just my two cents.
Can you tell me more about this gaming thing? I guess I missed that part.
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yes a new model could be voted in for sure.
And gaming was an example to show that each team will focus on their own tasks. The content team produce content, gaming team focuses on gaming, etc,
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:) I figured that much. Let me clarify my question. How is LBI going to be implicated in gaming? What does that mean?
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LBI can fund the start up in Hive games that provide a return.
If we get teams together who are willing to play the games and succeed, then we can look at funding those ventures.
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Thanks for the explanation, sounds great!
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nice! i was wondering if exists a possibility in which i would help you with some spanish content in videos for lbi? I have a youtube channel in constant growing and love the idea of being a kind of ambassador of LBI or something as an alternative content creator maybe ( i could make a video about every important update of lbi, his benefits, etc. )I havent seen any hispanic-spanish content creator talking about LBI which its sad because we are a big community too with investors potential..
ill leave you my channel (we just reached 22k views) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzNwKQk_1pcFKx5WogK7zOQ/videos
greetings! iwasnt sure how to contact you guys as you havent created a discord yet.
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Hello, that is deffo something we can look into in the future after the dust settles.
Thank you so much for offering your time, i'll remember this and you'll prob get a DM from me in a month are 2 :)
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Perfect and thank you so much too! ill be waiting your dm :) i love the "road to wealth" in the long term spirit from your proyect.
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I think the proposal votes should be every 3 or 6 months. I think every couple of weeks would become tedious for some.
Over all a great blueprint to how things should be set up and governance achieved. 👍
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Thanks man. We failed somewhat with SPI, that's try something different with LBI
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I think SPI turned out different then what was originally planned but I think it is successful. My investment is worth 4x (heading to 5x) what I paid for it. I know I'm happy considering clueless me back then wasn't entirely sure it wasn't all a scam. lol.
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Just shows you that this is being driven through the community and another reason why this will succeed and outperform. I need to go back and read it again to see how I can help and if I can. I like the concept of only every 3 months for voting but I do believe if decisions need to be made voting could happen regularly as everyone on the LBI list looks like active users.
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That is the goal. To spread this thing out as far and wide as we can.
The greater the involvement from the community, the better the chance of success.
Collectively we can make this project incredible.
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I do believe in a collective effort and why LBI will be so successful. If everyone chips in and helps how can it not succeed?
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Exactly. Many hands make light work :)
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I am still trying to wrap my head around the proposal part but I see the community shaping well.
As for the gaming part, I will appreciate a more elaborate details on what plans is on ground and the most important question of all is that will LBI be used to run the game or LEO . or a creation of new token is imminent
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Utilizing games already on Hive. Having people who are willing to play them to generate a return for LBI.
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How can I be part of this ?
We will put out an announcement when we are to that point.
For now the focus is upon getting the curation returns flowing, getting a baseline for the rewards, and then getting the payouts to token holders.
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This is a tremendous area to focus on..glad to be part of the project..
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This looks like a good plan of governance.
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Thank you.
We've try to make is fair for everyone well sorta of filtering the best ideas to the top.
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all i am watching is those 116k lbi!!!
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The numbers keep growing and we are very grateful. This is beyond what we expected. We will hit 120K in the first week. That is terrific.
To think we discussed perhaps cutting it off at 100K before things went live. We surpassed all expectations in these early stages.
It is thanks to the support of the entire community.
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hahah i remember that :P
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As a suggestion 1 year term for the governance team and either 3 or 6 months governance voting, maybe here a one month shift here to avoid financial years endings and quarter years endings.
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Lengthening things out could be a good route to take as we'll not really have that much to vote on to be honest.
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I like the idea of a governance team. Now, here is something I could help with to contribute to lbi (or spi for that matter) as my usual content (organ music) is not really the focus of either community.
Anyway, is the voting tier already set in stone? Or could that be one of the first things to vote on? Yes, I know, that raises the question how to weigh that particular vote.... I'm asking because it seems the most central part of governance.
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This is exactly what I wanted to ask too.
As these "tiers" is the ONLY thing which is holding me back.
Such an unseen discrimination against larger stakeholders...
Silly me....few weeks ago had plans to put in 40K-50K, maybe even more. Silly me...
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Actually, I think these tiers are quite reasonable, though I understand they might seem discriminatory to you.
Ideally though, the vote weighing should be the result of a community concensus.
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I will keep watching if anyone will care to answer your raised question
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I think these tiers have worked very well on SPI and they are a great incentive to encourage community participation.
Maybe it's great for some. Or many.
To me it reminds things like socialism, bolsheviks, 1917, Lenin. USSR.
Smells very bad to my nose.
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I understand.
Success is one of the things expected of LBI, I know it will be like that. One of the best ways to have a good planning so that everyone is involved and knows more about the project
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Thats how we plan to operate keeps everyone in the loop and then others can help people that with been away a few days :)
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Yep, I like the model and certainly start with a six-month term for the governance team. I guess people can stand again for a second-term?
As an investor, I definitely prefer to be presented with a portfolio of proposals for voting once every three months. I have time then to sit down and consider them properly. Every few weeks, I wouldn't know whether I was coming or going!
The one thing I would add, though, is that we do adhere to the post payout expiry for collecting votes. I try to catch up with the SPI family at least once a week and occasionally I can manage twice a week, but I'm not able to do every day or even every few days.
I love the fact that governance will come from 100% from the token holders and that membership of the governance team is timeboxed. This is something that will stand us in good stead. Add to that the multi-faceted content team and this is looking like one of the better investments I have made. I have already bought/worked my way up to 1000 LEO and my next target is to make it up to 1000 LBI.
To the future!
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To the future!
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Thank you. We appreciate the support.
We seek this to be truly a community driven project. The goal is not to have a few people with all the say nor doing all the work. It has to be a community effort.
Governance which allows all to partake is crucial. We also need people to step up and fill the roles.
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