Filling Prophecy

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There have been a couple work "trends" in the media lately, with Quiet Quitting and now, Work Your Wage getting traction and - I think these are good things for society. Essentially, it indicates to me at least the people who I would never have to risk promoting, so as long as they do what they are paid to do, there is no issue. This way, they will easily be able to achieve all the work-life balance they desire, because their work will never have to challenge them and their life will be limited by their stagnating salary, so they will be able to stay at home to their heart's content.

Just imagine if professional athletes, musicians and actors had taken the same approach when they were starting out.

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I was talking to my wife (who is in talent acquisition) about these various trends last night and how people are openly demanding various conditions, despite them not being in the position to do so., at least based on their experience. In what is a difficult hiring market, a lot of people know that they are able to demand higher salaries and better conditions, but there is also a little bit of an overinflated sense of business worth in the market too. A lot of people seem to think that regardless of their experience and a lack of proof of their skills, they can still be demanding, but as one of my colleagues put it in terms of their hiring process;

If it is not a Hell Yes! - It's a no.

The companies that understand the importance of hiring well for a position and not just filling a position understand that patience might be required, even if there is pain and loss in the short term. For those who are continuously lowering the bar just to fill positions, are setting themselves up for a culture of high staff turnover, no matter what remuneration they provide. It will be demand after demand and then loss anyway, even when the demands are met.

There should be a rule, if the trend comes with a catch phrase like "Quiet Quitting" or "Work your Wage" - don't follow it. It is very much like an IQ test where those who aren't going to amount to much anyway, are going to prove their destiny correct without even challenging it, as they do exactly what leads them down that path in a self-fulfilling prophecy kind of way. And then, because of the poor outcomes, they feel justified that they made the right call in not trying in the first place.

But really though, I do think there are some benefits to this for many people who try them, as they will get to experience what it means to not be fulfilled by work, but also not be fulfilled by life - more work-life balance perhaps - unfulfilling in both sides.

People often define themselves at least partially by the job that they do and when they care nothing for that job to the point they aren't willing to do anything extra for it beyond what they explicitly must or feel they should based on the salary, they will look to define themselves through other means. However, what will those other means be when they are severely hampered financially for prolonged periods of time?

Most likely, this is is part of the impotent social movements and "hoard cancellation" policies of social media, where like a religion that fills the gaps of having to think for oneself, the social movements fill the voids of meaning and purpose in their lives. After all, many of them are opting out of having families too, so it isn't like they are going to double-down on family life as a gateway to life purpose.

I think humans are designed to seek a sense of accomplishment with our activities and part of that is social recognition, like a pat on the head for doing a good job. But, what does that mean when there is no job done and no social activity performed? Probably, lots of selfies thrown out into the platforms wanting to be seen, but since the social connections are so weak, feedback from strangers is good enough.

Oh - this happens already.

The "quitting" has been happening for decades already and it hasn't been quiet at all though. Instead, it has been very dramatic and filled with digital outrage and anything and everything, regardless of whether it is cared about or not, important or not. People have been quitting the relationships that create a healthy society and as the fabric fails and gets increasingly volatile, they are saying "See, this is why I opted out", without acknowledging that they are one of the failing threads.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Feeling self-fulfilled?

Apparently not. People seem to have the lowest life satisfaction opinions ever, but the general consensus is that it is someone else's problem to change. Rather than actually doing something about the conditions, people are quitting their responsibility and waiting for others to do the work, which is obviously going to lead to even larger gaps in society, because only a minority of people ever actually do the majority of the work anyway. And then, when that minority make decisions and perform activities that will ultimately benefit themselves the most, people complain that they are not included, that it isn't fair.

Everyone deserves to be paid adequate value for the work they do, but at the end of the day, the way we behave especially whilst young, is like an investment made for our own future. If we aren't tightening our metaphorical belts and putting in the work to build a strong foundation, we are going to have to continually chase shelter forever, which means a lifetime of continual struggle until what we offer the market, is no longer valuable at all and without deep experience in anything, we have no value to society either.

More screaming into the void.

It is no wonder so many people are outraged on the internet, because it is their last opportunity to get any attention at all, the last bastion of their relevancy - but it will never actually last. Eventually, obscurity awaits us all and based on the way people behave today, that isn't going to be the fate of the elderly, it will be the lifestyle of the youth.

Prophecy filled.

Taraz
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Someone asked me once what I do, I said “ just enough so I don’t get fired “

Not what you were getting at I think.

I wonder what happens if going the other way - just enough to get a promotion? :D

We actually have a little bit of the opposite going here. Public schools in the US are going through a massive staff shortage. People just don't want to do the job anymore. The number of graduates to be a teacher is way down. We end up just filling positions with warm bodies whether they have the qualifications or not. Simply because we need someone in that position. It's unfortunate because the talent just isn't out there, but in the end it's the students that end up suffering.

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I am one of those teachers who loved being able to teach young minds the fundamentals of Algebra, but due to massive issues with the management of content and lack of adequate living wages I left the profession for a better salary elsewhere.

I don't blame you at all. I am so close to retirement I wouldn't leave my position now as the tech director. My wife has a few more years still, but she may decide to make a shift from being a school social worker. She deals with a lot crazier stuff than I do.

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Massive shortages in teaching and healthcare here too - but there is plenty of people wanting to be "digital marketer/influencer" with no jobs available.

We end up just filling positions with warm bodies whether they have the qualifications or not.

Some companies are starting to do the same, because there is pressure on the recruiters to fill positions, even when there aren't suitable people.

It's horrible. Then it falls to all of the other people to pick up their slack. Many of us end up doing multiple jobs while the person who should be doing it just sits and gets paid.

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Many of us end up doing multiple jobs while the person who should be doing it just sits and gets paid.

Tell me about it...
The amount of people who are taking jobs only to checkout from them immediately as they are looking for a new one to move to within 6 months is very high at the moment.

It's horrible.

Ah I’m not up on the trend! Work your wage, lol nice. In some ways I do agree with that, don’t kill your self working 70-80 hours a week. No job is worth that for me, because family is also crucially important. I don’t mind doing it here and there but I’m not going to do that months on end as that’s prime burnout territory. This isn’t counting working multiple jobs but rather the main job.

I do think people in their mid to late 20’s and 30’s are pretty damn lazy but I’m seeing and hopeful that the people in their early 20’s and late teens right now are eager and willing to clean up shop that the lazy fucks are leaving behind. There’s got to be a wave of people who are willing to work hard to achieve something, the current crop of people trying to dominate the workforce is burning their own bridge but building the bridge for the people behind them to walk past them on their own bridge and leave them in the river from their poor actions.

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In some ways I do agree with that, don’t kill your self working 70-80 hours a week.

I agree with it as well, but the people who are "making the call" definitely aren't the ones doing the majority of the work now, it is the underperformers who aren't going to get promoted based on what they do - can they do less?

There is going to be a huge amount of opportunity within the younger generations for those who are willing to build their skills and do the work, as they will be in high, high demand across just about every field.

Health is #1 for me nowadays. That said I have been through 80+ hours/week, and up to 100+ hours to deliver a lot under a very tight timeline.

It is no way sustainable, and it is the rite of passage and discovering one’s limits and capabilities.

Acting mediocre then have to accept mediocre income and mediocre career and mediocre lifestyle. It all balance out in the end.

It is no way sustainable, and it is the rite of passage and discovering one’s limits and capabilities.

Definitely not sustainable, but a very good learning opportunity and that short period for the "right of passage" can be the gateway to a very good career for the next 4 decades.

It all balance out in the end.

Reap what you sow.

Probably, lots of selfies thrown out into the platforms wanting to be seen, but since the social connections are so weak, feedback from strangers is good enough.

I think those selfies are not for socil connection, but creating identity in the society and ego satisfaction.

Yes, I agree, but I think they are connected - that social recognition is an important part of a healthy community, but what people do to get recognized is changing.

Surely people will be able to easily achieve the whole work-life balance because their jobs will never have to strain them and their life will be restricted due to their fixed salary so they can stay at home.

Do little work. Do little personal. Balance. :)

People seem to have the lowest life satisfaction opinions ever, but the general consensus is that it is someone else's problem to change

It is always vice versa because most people experience situations like this in a different dimension.

What I find in general is that people want a "pill" to fix their issues, not do the work.

The new generation is raised in a green house, they are all winners throughout their life just for breathing and showing up.

No hardships, no competitions, curriculums are more liberal arts and no longer much science.

This is also a generation of THUMBS UP to get instant affirmation, without the dislike button.

We get what we sow as a society 😂

they are all winners throughout their life just for breathing and showing up.

Snows will eventually fall on them.

This is also a generation of THUMBS UP to get instant affirmation, without the dislike button.

Exactly! They feel confident in their abilities because strangers who have never seen them perform and have no skin in the game, give them a like.

I think there are a lot of people who are just tired of everything and I am not really surprised because they are treated as a cog in the machine. I have seen quite a few videos from people in some of the Asian countries where they just earn enough to pay for food and then they just sit around or sleep the rest of the day. In a way, a job feels more like something that isn't fulfilling and they have given up.

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and I am not really surprised because they are treated as a cog in the machine.

I agree with this, but at the same time, act like a cog, get treated like a cog. People need to realize that they can actually participate in change - waiting for change will get them nowhere good.

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