It is not often I read a news article and then discover, I recognize two people in it and have spent some time drunk in Poland with one of them, but there you go. Both the first and the fourth people mentioned are ex-Hive, though neither have been seen around here for "awhile".
It wasn’t until 2017 that she got hooked on the world of blockchain. Though she had a sales job in the tech industry, Thompson never felt like she earned enough money, so she worked a few “side hustles.”
One gig involved blogging for a platform that paid her in cryptocurrency.
This is Lea's reference to Steem and Hive, a place that probably collected her close to 100K and helped finance her Bitcoin holdings. Of course, it could be that it was the newspaper that omitted the name of the site, but maybe not too. Then, people rarely remember those who helped them get to where they have been trying to get.
However, what is interesting to note is how important the blogging has actually been for so many people in crypto. A lot of "normal people" came into crypto in 2017 and where they came in was through Steem, because that was the lowest point of entry. However, there are other avenues now, but those avenues focus almost solely on the earning potential, not the learning potential from the industry.
Even the games like Splinterlands where a lot can be learned by way of financial planning and economics, the concept is narrow in the sense that it is about learning a game. A player doesn't actually have to interact with others to build their knowledge base, they can just play. However, those who really want to Get involved and get the most out of it will inevitably not go it alone in the game and will instead, turn to the community interfaces to learn more and improve their chances of both winning in the game and, winning in the economy of it. This exposes them to a far wider perspective of crypto and will inevitably lead them down multiple paths of knowledge expansion, that will push into other domains.
The "blogging" side of Hive is incredibly undervalued, because while the blogs or articles themselves might not be individually world-changing, as a collective community of people interacting and making moves together, they become trend makers. Sure, Hive trends currently might only be limited to Hive applications for the most part and largely internally facing, but that is not a problem if there are lots of people internally.
What I find interesting from the article is that it focuses on buying tokens, when for example, Lea got into crypto without buying, she started in blogging. In fact, her first post doesn't mention crypto at all, it is her being Lea - not "girlgonecrypto". But, this is why it is so valuable to participate because no matter what you come in as, with a little hustle and will, there are many paths that can be found that could change the trajectory of your life.
I am of course biased as a writer here, but it does pain me a bit at times when people say that the blogging side is of little value, because without this side of the community, applications like Splinterlands and LeoFinance would have had an incredibly hard job building a support base for their products. And for example in the case of LEO, they have attracted relatively large investment staking into their platform. Not large in terms of the crypto industry, but large in the sense that most of that value are holdings in other tokens that the Hive community has decided to park there. I know that for me at least, it is significant and it is there because through posts, I have gotten to know @khaleelkazi and the project itself.
The more people who come into crypto, the more important the content side becomes, because not only does it inform, but it also forms the interface for the communities to build around, which will be vital for projects of all kinds going forward, because unlike the traditional financial markets, *crypto is social. It isn't just buy and sell, it is about distribution and empowerment and that means, there has to be more than distribution of tokens, there has to be distribution of information and opportunity. That gets organized through the visible communities, not the anonymity of the exchanges.
Hive has changed the lives of many financially, but it isn't just the earnings on platform that are important, it is the knowledge that allows for earnings off the platform too. On top of this, I know quite a few who have changed their approach to their lives in many ways, seeing the world quite differently than they did earlier and, building a confidence in their ability to interact well with the world that was missing in them before. I am definitely one of these people.
While people seem to be too ashamed of being on Hive to mention it, what is going to be interesting in time is that at some point, many people are going to be jealous of those who got in early and built their presence. Not just on Hive, but across all the applications it enables.
Personally, I don't know why there aren't more people here, other than they look at the earnings themselves and think it is not worth it. For the earnings, it might not be, but for the learning, it definitely is. If crypto and blockchain are indeed going to change the world, those who have skills that can support development and uptake are going to be in very high demand at all levels of the industry.
This is always the case in emerging industries and we are yet to emerge, because at the moment most people are still looking at it from the tokens on exchanges, not the industries the tech is going to disrupt. It is no longer just a "Buy and Hold" industry and unless you have an enormous amount of capital, that won't get you as far as learning and building.
Taraz
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I just read your post. Yeah, Lea was quite active on Steem back than ... sometimes her sister as well. Later, they left Steem (Hive), as many people did during the bear market.
p.s. I remember I started to follow your profile a long time ago. Now, in the title of your post I saw 'Poland' ... that's why I decided to check your post. Because I associated it with Krakow. Then I read your post and checked your profile to check if you attended Steem Fest 3. I saw on Hive Buzz that you have that badge. I was at SF3 as well. So, probably, I started to follow you form SF3. Just trying to figure out if I remember you. Were you hanging around at Steem Fest 3 with anomadsoul?
Yeah, Lea activated again for a bit, but last post was 9 months ago.
Yeah, we were sharing a airbnb with a few others :) Was some good times! Met lots of people over the space of the week, but I reckon the best times were spent talking after midnight at the bar in the square until near when the sun came up :D
Do you mean at Friday night in the bar that was under the ground?
No - every night of the week. :)
IO read the article too and had the exact same take away.
It's a pity that she drifted away form the community as she become more of a wider personality. It would have been good to have her still involved in the platform and bring people back in.
I know exactly why we lost cryptofinally and understand that side of it with the abuse that she found here while she was shilling the blockchain to a wider audience as she used it.
I think that played into losing lea as well since they were working together at the time.
It's a pity what a few bad actors can do to future potential. Instead we could be looking at a major article promoting hive to the world if the two were still active on hive. Showing how you can enter crypto as a user and make something happen.
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If it isn't "worth it" financially I guess. I don't really understand it though, as if people want mass adoption into an actual industry, that doesn't happen on the exchanges.
I never followed the cryptofinally drama, but if I remember, she was just dumping posts here for autos.
As writing I just checked: 296 posts, 204 comments. Not really a community player and I don't think she was mentioning on her other channels at all, since she put no effort in here. I could remember wrong though.
Over the years, there have been plenty of people getting space in various articles - not many mention how they actually got started or where they earned - they all say "I bought" - a bit lame, but that is human nature I guess :)
It might happen later though, where people are a bit prouder of being here, rather than it being a dirty secret.
I think the tl;dr was that bernie was downvoting her for one or another reason, as he usually would some people, things escalated to where he started calling her names, some other random accounts, most likely socks took it even further and cryptofinally used the worst examples to build her battle against hive. When she was told that she could mute accounts from the front-ends, that she wouldn't have to read them nor would people checking her blogs see them unless they went all the way down and unmuted the comments she started instead saying things like the governance needs to get involved to block bernie or something stupid. As people were trying to then tell her that if she was bringing value to Hive and kept promoting it many other whales would stand up and counter the downvotes if they felt like she was worth it, apparently the clout of being against the whole chain was worth it more for her than actually ignoring the small issue of 1-2 users downvoting and being vulgar.
Saw an interview she did about Hive on @crypt0's youtube a while back if you want some to roll your eyes over the whole thing even more:
Thanks for the background.
I kind of feel like downvotes can be a good test of someone's understanding of decentralization, where once they call for governance to get involved, they indicate they are more concerned about their personal experience than that of the entire network that enables it. This is why second-layer apps are so important, because they can give the experience, whilst the chain can be "free".
THis is the approach of a social media influencer for sure :)
https://peakd.com/hive/@cryptofinally/your-slack-has-more-than-one-leak
blocktrades has a good rundown in this comment section
She really just ignored 80% of what BT was saying! :D
The crypto influencer is strong in her.
Sweet. This is worth a read then :)
CF wasn't a great community member and personally i have no time for her content but that is besides the point for me. She was new to the community and using the sites. She did reply when i commented.
The main point for me was that she was a well known figure in the wider crypto community that joined the eco-system. instead of welcoming her in and trying to get her involved with hive more fully, she got abuse and threats from one of the largest stakeholders who drove her off the platform.
Now i know that she then went on a pure hissy fit and lost the plot but this could all have been avoided in the first place. Bad publicity is bad publicity. She did have hive links on her other content and did a weekly show with lea where the topic was discussed. It's only one user but a wider example of how some people try to control the content thats acceptable on hive.
I hope that when we make it ourselves and get famous enough to get noticed that we wont be shy to say where it all began. I know that i'm proud to be part of hive and tell my friends all about it. In a few years when there are a lot more millionaires here i can see a time where people are coming in specifically to read the content and see how it was done and how to follow in th esame footsteps.
What do you mean? She was welcomed by the community. She did rather well before the bernie thing that lead to her going full aggro on Hive even though people gave her advice on how to mute/ignore the trolls and keep at it. Not really our fault she decided to think she knows things better and that we need a way on the blockchain level to block people from using their stake how they want.
This was Bernie I think. Part and parcel of decentralized environments and why second-layer interfaces are so valuable. If she had gone through Leo (at least now) she wouldn't have even noticed and if they chose, they could mute Bernie completely.
Yes. Second layer changes this.
I plan on being here long term, so I want the place to be the best it can be, because I have a "real life" too that I want to increasingly make Hive a part of. :)
Oh, so cryptofinally left HIVE? Hmm, I didn't notice it. Let me check.
gone a couple years ago I think :)
I remember Lea. Always thought she was a cool cat but once she turned into that crypto character I lost interest in her work. I never really understood the appeal of crypto influencers though. Oh look it's Bitcoin's version of Ronald McDonald, is usually how my brain processes it.
Lea was cool in many ways. But, that self-titled "social influencer" status seems to change people's opinions of themselves.
Ronald McNFT
It does. I know of another one named Heidi who started as a travel blogger of sorts then converted over to cypto content, but her stuff is actually focused on being educational; not telling people what they want to hear. Her Youtube channel is actually doing well in comparison. Those two you mentioned here don't seem to be doing too well over there.
Then there's those really shady 'influencers' that dump a bag, rent a lambo, take photos, post it for views and likes. Not sure if I feel bad more for the 'influencer' or the viewers though. I call those ones 'crypto dinosaurs'. They promote and help pump tokens, then dump, move on to something else like it never happened. Rinse and repeat. But their appearance becomes haggard over time, or they're getting sued; going to jail.
Token the Tiger. They're GRRRRReat!
I don't follow over there, just here. Well, sometimes I have a look at some of the links posted from people I follow here.
Lean on someone else's rented Lambo, while it is parked in the street.
I wonder if this is going to happen more?
See that one 'influencer' rug 500k? Then boast about it!
Locally I see one setting up the road to shit. Not mentioning names but he doesn't like needles and neither does the 'token'; that's most likely going to pinch.
Missed it. I miss all the fun.
I am guessing I know who you are talking about, but I haven't been actively following the ongoing discussion around any of it. I only have so much bandwidth these days, so jump in from time to time for practice, but stay clear a fair bit too.
Terrorists gonna terrorize. I don't blame you.
I think I'm decided once the snow melts I'll be melting my internet connection again, get some work done; enjoy some living.
I get annoyed when I hear people shit on the blogging side of hive. Without the blogging there would largely not be a whole lot of people! No people means no interactions and not really a good user base to test things out on and get feedback. It would be stupid to have a crypto like hive and everyone be on Reddit talking about it. I get annoyed that we have come up with a discord replacement for on chain but I digress lol.
Funny, I read that from the link and recognized the two females names. It’s funny how they didn’t mention Steem or hive, not sure if they didn’t bother to ask what platform or if they didn’t want to give it up for fear of losing their nest egg, if they even still have something on it.
Good for them though, it’s good to hear stories about it. I’m glad I got in when I did but I could have gotten in 6 months earlier had I not been lazy and listened to the person who recommended this whole space to me lol. Such is life!
THis is most cryptos. And Telegram of course. They are essentially pump and dump schemes over a long period of time :D
Neither do. Lea still autovotes following Anomadsoul :)
I have nothing against them doing what they do, I just find it funny how people seem to rewrite history into the position that they are the hero, forgetting what got them there. The "side hustle" was the main gig at some point.
In fact, I think about this as well and say myself that wish I would become a member of HIVE (Steemit then) in 2016. I believe that HIVE will be as popular as the other social platforms one day. Then, we will obviously be ahead of the new members with all our experince here.
I also think that the more people come to HIVE, the more quality contents we will see. Because, among millions member, one should write interesting post to manifest himself.
Many people joined in 2016 - and wasted their opportunity, the same as all the other years. It comes down to the person and their willingness to create and engage for a lot of it. Luck plays a part too.
Weird that it seems the common idea is the blogging part is the least important or obsolete or whatever. I guess I just stay too willfully ignorant, as it's the only thing I know it for.
I don't know anything about LEOfinance or splinterlands or anything else. I just blog. Jeeze I only jut figured out the communities aspect lol
It doesn't create many transactions.
This might be interesting for you to see the blocks. SL is Splinterlands.
https://hiveuprss.github.io/hiveisbeautiful/
Blogging and communities in my opinion are key to generating successful applications.
That's a cool little... thing. How important are transactions vs size of transactions? I mean, one could conceivably, as they have in the past, made innumerable transactions through bot action in the comments for nothing other than spam reasons
Well, this is what is important with transactions, isn't it? What it carries matters. Those SL ones are largely bots too, but what they are doing is playing the game using custom JSONs - this means that they are doing something "useful" and potentially earning, renting, etc - whereas the spam comments are just filler, doing nothing at all.
Is this surprising? :D
Stuff like that is always going to sting, but people think whatever they think (and often think that they're right and everyone who doesn't think the way they do is wrong).
Are these new people or old people? I remember when I was new on hive I only vaguely mentioned it if something directly related came up in conversation because it was new and I was new and I wasn't sure if I was going to hang around or not (I was looking at a lot of socnets then and at the same time trying to cut down on the number of socnets I was on).
I guess some people would be similarly exploratory just want to investigate things quietly and see if they're going to hang around/drag their friends
kicking and screamingon too.These days hive comes up in conversations about as casually as Facebook et al does.
Not surprising at all.
Many of the "social influencers" avoid mentioning it. Sure, they are self professed influencers, but still :)
I understand people not shouting it to the world too of course, as there are many reasons not to be found here for some people.
Speaking of Splinterlands, yesterday (on 2022.02.06) I started putting my Splinterlands cards on the rental market on PeakMonsters. I do this, because the game became demotivating and frustrating. Nowadays 80% of the daily quest rewards are either alchemy potion charge or legendary potion charge.
And after a 10 losing streak, I fell back to Bronze III, where the players (at least nowadays) do not even earn Dark Energy Crystals (DEC) for winning, because the minimum league for that is Bronze II. Nowadays my max tier is Silver III, and I reached it in the previous seasons, but the rewards were similarly bad there. I rarely received a card, and even if I received, it was mostly a common card, and it was often useless in battles (for example the Venari Heathsmith).
I am playing Splinterlands since 2018.12.30. The game was more fair and more fun/enjoyable in the past. Hopefully the upcoming changes in the reward system will make the game more similar to what it was in the past.
Hopefully the game will start to give proper rewards again in the future. Until then I keep leasing out my cards, instead of playing.
Because it is not worth it to struggle often for hours just to get an alchemy or a legendary potion charge.
Have a nice day. All the best. Greetings and much love from Hungary.
I can't speak to what it was earlier, as I have only been playing since mid 2021. The new CL cards have made it much harder for all players now, no matter the league, evidenced by me beating people who have far stronger old sets than me and experience using them. But, it will balance in time I suspect.
I know a few people who are leasing and have returned to playing because of the new rewards, but I am not sure of all the intricacies around it.
But, on a side note based on what you quoted - just think about what the average person is learning about economics through this and in most cases, those people would have little chance of learning it otherwise. Sure, you can read about it, but interacting with an economy is far better and valuable.
We are have our reasons been here because I believe hive have create opportunites for so many people in the blockchain to earn for a living especially from countries that unemployment is definitely a big issue
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Ah, so much old drama...
Lea showed that anyone can leverage the community on Hive to build a career.
While Cryptofinally also showed that the community won't take simply being leached.
I wish Lea at least maintained a presence here.
I mean, imagine the concept of a crypto influencer who sells her ability to talk up decentralised money/tech that actually chooses to use said tech.
Just imagine!!
I also wish Cryptofinally understood why the community thought what she was doing was leeching, without offering anything back.
Again, imagine the concept of a social media influencer who actually understood not only the tech, but the social aspects of layer-0.
So many lessons that will eventually appear in textbooks 50 years from now.
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It's extremely difficult for me to understand why there are no more people who blog as a hobby here. But this topic is really a beaten horse. I think games will take the lead in Hive adoption. When the gamers realize they can blog about their games, they will do so and blogging on Hive will pick up.
Web 2.0 sucks as a place to earn. Quora, for example, allows people who answer questions to monetize that through adaptive paywalls. The more your answers get viewed and the more engagement you have the more the algorithm will pay you. In my observation, monetizing activity is about 100x-1000x easier on Hive than on Quora if you apply yourself to the same extent.
I think that boils down to Hive being a new platform where the user base is not very well established, yet. There is lots of money being distributed. In contrast, a platform like Quora has hundreds of millions of users to fight over subscription fees and ad revenue. Building a following on a platform like that that already has tens of thousands of high-quality writers is really difficult and time-consuming.
It's simply the case that on Hive one still has considerable early adopter advantage.