Hello Mr. @acydio
I realize that your hate campaign is supported by the 50% beneficiary. It is impressive this.
Let's see, if I put 100% to donate to someone, would that be a problem ... I do not know if you have ever done any charity work, although by their level and ability to hate behind a premise of "selling votes", I doubt that it is one of those who could give away.
- Do you know of any community that has a medical emergency fund to help users...?
Only projet Hope has it. And I, as a doctor and nurse by profession, have been able to help so many with medical orientations, that I have no number for it. And thanks to Poject Hope.
Do you know of any community that pays for user training? in my case, (like others), I am not a native English speaker, but luckily now I can do it, because I have been able to receive support for that, I repeat, like so many others as well.
And if as well as this hate campaign makes some publication to ask in what other ways Project Hope has been able i pact positively in many people, sure I would understand a little, of course, if your hatred allows it. But obviously, you're not going to make a post to be able to give someone a chance to make someone look good, I don't see that at all viable in you.
I know you're going to tell me that you won't comment on what I just said, because I'm sure you'll tell me that your intention is to "highlight" the 50% beneficiary, the axis of your hate campaign.
And I know it will rain negative votes on me, from you and other Haters. But, let's see, one more question:
- Do you know that other communities work by sending the "payment for support" through different accounts? Sure you do, you know it, maybe even some of them are your friends, and that's why you don't say anything.
And I would dare to ask you other questions:
- Do you consider reward.app as a way to incentivize to drain hive? which by the way, I never used it....
- Is that percentage charged by that reward.app service also burned to incentivize the price increase of Hive? excuse my ignorance, of course, but if that small percentage is burned, I don't think it has much impact on raising the price of hive when it "incentivizes" the massive sale of hive through this service.
These are just doubts I have, in view of the fact that you care a lot about the welfare of the platform, and it is you who is behind this "wonderful service".
I will say goodbye...for now.
OCD has been occasionally voting charity posts. What's your drama?
Project Hope isn't the only one doing it. But it has a knack to flex about it.
There's CTP Swarm where they incentivize crypto and affiliate marketing training all for the clicks and business.
Make a post to highlight that, would be nice to know more about these communities doing it. :D
In concept, that app was meant to incentivize curating content as more % goes to curators. In practice, authors just set the meter to 0 so that the conceptual purpose gets repurposed to just faster liquidation of the rewards.
Not really, 1% and the small percentage of users actually using the app never made much impact on the price. Whatever you're trying to angle this into won't cover the 50% beneficiary claim. Reward app isn't making acid rich but those 50% beneficiaries do for the admins of project hope.
Hi @adamada
Oh no, it's not about Dramas, it's just that I want to highlight that it's not only what they say in this post, because seeing one side of the coin is not enough to make a logical opinion, I guess you will agree with me that you always have to go a little further to be able to understand things better.
OCD supports, of course yes, I have seen it, it is just another way to support, a different and valid one.
I am part of CTP community, I even receive their newsletters directly to my mail, they have a good working scheme, I like it too, and yes, it is formative, but obviously, I must say that it is not project.hope the only one that seeks to generate training in users, this one you mentioned, CTP, is a GREAT EXAMPLE, and surely there are others doing it, I just don't know them.
I think it would also be a good post, to highlight those good things that communities do, and that impact beyond the platform.
Even these encounters in situations like the one this post is about, are good, because you can get to know other users and their work.
Ach, what a load of shite. Doctor and nurse my fucking arse.
Have you been on an "adult" site again..? 😂
Hahahhaha, Ah, love it! :OD
I'm a fire truck.
I am eminently qualified to reply on this, I am a hose
Hmm. I see potential here. Would you like to be business partners?
You got wheels? You got wheels you got a deal!
Okay but just so you know, I get to keep half your pay now, so you can get wheels later.
Hey, that sounds like totally legit. Why hasn't anyone else thought of this sort of
scamjape before??Managed to get this far and do allllll that, without this self-vote/vote selling scheme. Hmmm. Is it necessary?
I have another question. If it's charity and you're okay with giving 50%, and I see you have 6000 HIVE, why not simply give 3000 HIVE, all while expecting nothing in return? Not the same?
And why are you intentionally smearing; pointing fingers in the opposite direction; calling it hate? Surely working towards settling the dispute would be more productive? Not the end of the world.
I'm just a random passerby though. What the hell do I know.
Hi @nonameslefttouse
I don't understand the point of delegating the 3000HP, but it is valid.
And sure, you have every right to your opinion, regardless you are just another bystander, I am too.
And no, I don't mean to point in the opposite direction, as this is not something new, and I must highlight some things, because people reading this post will only take the face of the vision of things that this gentleman wants to give, when there are other things that affect the economics of the platform, and nobody says anything, such as reward.app.
And you have the right to give your opinion, of course, but if you have a better vision of things, of the projects and benefits that this community has brought to many, I think the opinion would be more impartial.
By the way, nice work you are doing, I liked it, it is really very original. I've always wanted to learn how to make digital art, but due to time issues I haven't been able to, I'm sure I'll be able to do it later on. The three dots in your signature caught my attention.
Not delegating. Giving. Handing it over. No posts involved, no votes involved. They want everyone to work, and take a pay cut in order to receive support. And you're claiming it's a form of donation. Why not skip all those steps? Simply hand the donation over from your wallet to theirs. Same thing. Way less work. No headache. Right?
But even claiming it's for a good cause doesn't discount fact it's a paid vote received and that's frowned upon. It could also be considered a form of excessive self voting utilizing an exploit in both the system and human psychology, and that's for sure frowned upon.
We've been through this before. I see people making bold claims PH adds value (maybe .010 HIVE per annoyed wallet) but if this place turns into another free for all favoring exploits over decency, you can kiss my investment goodbye. Not interested in dealing with that nonsense again.
And then you'll put a starving artist out of work. One that you like yet. How is that cool?
For your first paragraph, check my latest reblog, when people who are in need need help and have a history on the immutable database we're on proving they've been valuable contributors to Hive apart from just posting content then the community steps up and helps them, we don't need a centralized sole owner to an account holding an emergency fund that lacks all transparency and trust. Transactions are instant and feeless, it's easy to use them transparently.
Funny you have no number, if only it could be made transparent on a public ledger where literally most things are transparent.
Not sure what you mean with user training but yes many communities guide newcomers and help them get started, how to write better and format their posts, etc. Hive is not in charge to guide people through schools, they can do so with their earnings if they prefer but here again having a centralized specific fund for this removes transparency and gives more leeway to abuse and lack of documentation and proof of what is being done with them.
This isn't a hate campaign, you guys are the ones deciding to see downvotes as hate, many others see them as downvote curation and discouraging the use of schemes that go against the rest of what the platform has agreed is acceptable at this hardfork and the rules it has in place right now.
We're not haters, we work just as hard if not more than people in your community, we all want the best for Hive and it to be as fair as possible to authors, curators and delegators and not give any of the three a bigger advantage cause they may happen to find a "hack" they think they're super innovative about which is something most people had thought of but realized it's not something that's fair and shouldn't be persued.
I don't understand what you mean with "payment for support".
Reward.app has its downsides and the innovation of it was controversial as well but no one is using that part of it (where you can choose to give curators a bigger part of the post rewards). The intentions were for people to be able to write shorter posts/low effort posts and forfeit part of the post rewards they may be getting when autovotes are rampant, which they still are today (my account as a prime example) and I have used it that way often but I haven't seen curators target it for that reason along and been monitoring it if it was being abused in promoting garbage posts. There again downvotes are an easy tool to combat it and both the curators and author are at risk if they don't use it well. Most people have only used it to liquidate their post rewards, it's a shame some don't want to remain powered up and earn curation and use the influence of hivepower but if people want to powerdown they will do it either way (just slower), that doesn't mean much for hive's price or sell pressure as the markets are daily pushing out way more volume than the inflation we have and there's so much more stake being powered down actively than there's inflation going out to authors so it's a minor thing. Aside from that there was another project doing the same thing before (likwid) and it was taking a much bigger service fee for providing liquids in exchange for it getting the stake.
Curating content based on beneficiaries of self-interest is frowned upon and won't be tolerated. Instead of whining about the "hate" and "centralization" and all other things I've been hearing these past few days how about you guys finally man up and be transparent of the cut the owner of the curation project takes, how his personal account is earning way more APR than the other project's accounts and how literally no fucking one in your community is mentioning that with PH's accounts growing so does his fucking cut. Stop living a fucking lie you brainwashed cultist.