Hive will only grow if we stop downvoting for whatever good or bad reason. Abuse we have to live with. There are already posts about a witness downvoting a German goup , this harms the reputation of the new child so much….
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Are you suggesting that the only way to grow is to completely ignore bad content that gets upvoted?
Yes. Bad content to the moon!! Bad content is what everyone wants to see more of, bad is the new good. Bad content is badly needed. Downvotes should be used for good content so that bad content can get the visibility it deserves.
XD
Why should we live with abuse? Downvotes are perfectly valid and were designed into Steem to prevent abuse. Of course they can be used maliciously, but we value the freedom to do that we like. By all means name that witness and people can decide whether they deserve support.
The evidence of my argument is the unviable size of steem and hive compared to other platforms. A for the downvoting war in Germany you can read here https://hive.blog/deutsch/@nesomi/abuse-of-power-and-lies-of-hive-witness-pfunk-or-machtmissbrauch-and-luegen-des-hive-zeugen-pfunk#@nesomi/re-pfunk-qbsvfr
I am not involved but the "victim" started sending replies to hundreds of new posts with his cpmplaints.
Downvotes can drive people away, which is why I use them with care. If you saw how much abuse has gone on you would appreciate how necessary it is. Look at Steem to see what it is like when out of control. I see accounts getting thousands each week in rewards by buying votes. That deprives others of the chance to earn much.
I have seen @pfunk do a lot of good on Steem. Can you blame people for feeling bitter when their Steem was taken away? I have been lucky to retain mine so I can sell it off, but Steemit have censored my account and so I have no respect for them.
VOLUNTARY MUTE LISTS would be just as effective and much less onerous to the innocent.
https://hive.blog/hive-171744/@logiczombie/voluntary-blacklists
Hiding the problems does not make them go away. Abusers reduce our rewards.
IRL every dollar you spend reduces your neighbor's spending power.
Upvoting is not THEFT.
In the same way, when I make a large purchase, I am not stealing from my neighbors, even though I am reducing the value of their savings.
please-stop-posting-and-upvoting-you-re-eating-into-my-rewards
https://hive.blog/ethics/@logiczombie/please-stop-posting-and-upvoting-you-re-eating-into-my-rewards
I have nothing against people earning unless they are really selfish. That is why we have downvotes. We may make some enemies,but on balance it is beneficial. IMHO
Or, perhaps consider capping the max payout at $20.00 so the reward pool benefits the small fish at the expense of the big fish, insuring a broader distribution.
Or, perhaps consider distributing the reward pool directly to each stake holder's account based purely on their stake and replace the "upvote" button with a quick and easy "delegate 1 hive" button and a quick and easy "tip 1 hive" button on each post (that doesn't expire after 7 days).
Put it to the witnesses with a proposal. I can't change the rules and so work with what we have.
You mean the so called German group that voted to support theft of property?
Yeah, losing pending rewards is the least of their worries.
I’m not part of any group but really we need to let go of that and move forward . That’s not an excuse to be downvoting people
Go tell the witness that got his funds stolen to let go. They earned his ire.
who is this witness. has he explicitly said that's why he/she is downvoting them ?
I've had every post down voted for over 2 months now!-by the same moron - lol....(oh, and every upvoted comment).
That German "group" is mass comment spamming, run by a greedy douchebag who wanted people's Steem balances to be stolen, and is obviously not promoting Hive, but Steem instead, to whatever people might be a part of it.
So why should Hive be paying any rewards to @nesomi, again?
@pfunk @likwid @adm
WTF F head idiot !
@actifit @mcfarhat actifit is hive based !
exchange AFIT token to upvoted
STOP DOWNVOTING TO ZERO PAYOUT u FCKERS !
SHIT FCKHEAD
GO FCK URSELF ! FCKERS !
im curious are you downvoting him because he is doing something wrong. or because he likes justing sun ?
Should Hive reward an account owned by a person who collaborates with thieves that stole the funds of major stakeholders of Hive, including my own? Should Hive reward a person that wished for my Steem stake and other people's stake to get stolen? Should Hive reward this person despite their distaste for Hive, and their anti-promotion of it?
My stake says no, and I'm not alone. The answer should be plain and obvious to a Hive stakeholder.
with this attitude you turn this platform into a shill fest. you are a witness you need to raise above that . you should downvote the posts in which you disagree not everypost regardless.
there was a list of sun supporters they dint get a stake, now they have bought a stake.
why is their account on spamminators black list ??? is it because of this or because it did something wrong?
what you doing (if you doing it for that reason) is wrong on principal.
i'll let you in a secret not everyone that is here loves this platform they are here to earn from it whats next downvote everyone that sells hive because they not holding.
I had a quick look at the account to me it looked legit maybe not something i would upvote but not worth a downvote.
and for that it should not be in spaminators list. you are ofcourse entitled to use your stake as you see fit. spamminator is not .
Probably because they spammed automated messages of personal feud with @pfunk WITH the said "charity" account on other people's posts.
Yeah, that's not gonna go down well.
Dude can't even be bothered to post with his @greece-lover account, but hide behind his "charities" so they can be his meat shield.
I'm not a fan of @greece-lover at all @enforcer, trust me on that. He started with mass spamming after his "charity" (Which is legit btw, I've researched it) account got downvoted. All this stupid issues are just toxic for this blockchain and split people again into different groups.
@pfunk @likwid @adm
WTF F head idiot !
@actifit @mcfarhat actifit is hive based !
exchange AFIT token to upvoted
STOP DOWNVOTING TO ZERO PAYOUT u FCKERS !
SHIT FCKHEAD
GO FCK URSELF ! FCKERS !
I do not know the history but now see another person don-thomas complaining about censorship. I just wanna say this is bad publicity for the future of hive.
Then, why are you making statements as if you already looked into things?
The only bad publicity is people who don't know what's going on and publishing stuff as if they have followed the situation closely.
Funny how the only people attempting to defend this scumbag grease-lover are ignorant, right?
Typical.
@pfunk @likwid @adm
WTF F head idiot !
@actifit @mcfarhat actifit is hive based !
exchange AFIT token to upvoted
STOP DOWNVOTING TO ZERO PAYOUT u FCKERS !
SHIT FCKHEAD
GO FCK URSELF ! FCKERS !
Downvotes are not censorship. The post is not removed from the blockchain, just the rewards.
Suppressing speech in any way is censorship. If you shot me in the back of the head, that would censor me effectively, but my already posted content would remain on the blockchain. By your definition that would not be censorship.
Please use the widely accepted definition of censorship that has long been in use as published on credible dictionaries and encyclopedias.
Yeah downvoting trash and spam is shooting someone in the back of the head. If you wonder why I have you on mute, good example.
You are claiming with the above comment to not understand that censorship includes multiple mechanisms that leave data on the blockchain, and that all you understood from my comment was that shooting in the head something something equals flagging spam.
All I can say is good luck. It seems you do not have reason to depend on in this matter, so luck and nepotism is all that's left, and I don't approve of nepotism.
@pfunk @likwid @adm
WTF F head idiot !
@actifit @mcfarhat actifit is hive based !
exchange AFIT token to upvoted
STOP DOWNVOTING TO ZERO PAYOUT u FCKERS !
SHIT FCKHEAD
GO FCK URSELF ! FCKERS !
Please stop spamming those comments as your own followers, friends and former supporters keep reporting you. You misunderstood a lot of things which have led to this situation.
Leave the negative feedback, I do not know any spam!
Ok, we did, and we decided that you're not adding value here. You're a greedy toxic leech. Go scurry off back to Steem with the rest of your kind.