Last week, we looked at what the account hints at regarding the physical, mental and spiritual state of the unique couple in Eden.
It was noted that we could identify with their state, since it was the same childlike state that we have all experienced to some degree or another as children.
The childlike state, although paradisaical is not ideal...
We all need to grow up at some time or another and take on the responsibilities of life.
So to with Adam and his wife in paradisaical Eden; and a way was prepared for this change of state to be brought about, involving two trees and their fruit.
The tree of Life
Eating of the tree of life would not disturb the status quo at that time.
The tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil
Eating of this tree was detrimental since it had the consequence of bringing about physical changes that would result in the alteration of metabolic and other processes of the body. One of the final outcomes of these changes would eventually be death.
This should not be difficult for us to accept.
With our knowledge of pharmaceuticals it is very apparent that the ingestion of certain substances can bring about predictable and lasting physical or other effects.
When we ingest something it is broken down, distributed throughout the body, utilized and sometimes even incorporated into the makeup of our cells. Some things we eat truly become part of us.
After all, "We are what we Eat" as the saying goes. Our diet over time can radically affect our health and well being.
The Red Pill or the Blue Pill
In "The Matrix" trilogy we see a similar metaphor employed. Neo is given the choice of taking the red pill or the blue pill. On will result in him continuing down the path of the status quo and the other will radically alter everything. In this case its not a fruit that is eaten but an actual pharmaceutical pill.
To complete the complexity of the situation there would be mental and spiritual outcomes to add to the physical changes that would ensue.
Eating of the Tree of Life was approved and partaking of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was forbidden.
To eat of one, would be an act of obedience and conforming to the Parent's will. To eat of the other, would be an act of defiance and to exercise ones own will contrary to the will the Parent.
Herein lay the knowledge of Good an Evil. To be blindly obedient requires little real free thought and poorly enhances knowledge or experience. A robot and computer can be programmed to act in this manner and these are far from self aware or conscious.
This is a stagnant condition with little growth or prospect of self improvement.
To exercise ones will independently of others is totally different.
Herein lies the key to knowledge, growth and improvement. Only when our choices are our own can we truly be accountable for them and only then can the ensuing consequences be considered just.
The options were placed before the couple and the opportunity was presented, for it is only when we have multiple choices to choose from that real choice occurs.
The couple were placed in a perfect catch 22 situation.
They had previously been commanded to multiply and replenish the earth, but in their current childlike state, this was impossible. Only after the fall is "the woman" then called Eve because she is the mother of all living.
They could remain innocent in paradise, without offspring and with no prospects for growth and progression, or they could transgress and partake of the forbidden fruit, thereby enabling their future ability to keep the first commandment they had been given.
The situation in Eden was perfectly planned, they could not keep both of the commandments they had been given, they had to choose either one or the other. Adam and Eve needed to learn to think for themselves and the choices before them provided just such an opportunity.
Therefore we refer to the situation as "Adam's Transgression".
He broke one law in order to obey another. This act of transgression brought about the "opening of the eyes", the transition from "childlike" to "being as the gods, knowing good and evil"
From instinct driven animal, to being made in Gods image, capable of independent thought and action with full knowledge of the consequences.
From childlike innocence to mature adult responsibility and accountability.
Only now was Mans creation complete.
Next time we will look at the purpose of death.
Previous parts of this Series.
Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Delving a little deeper
Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Into the detail
Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Some conclusions
Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Some more conclusions
Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - The implications.
Excelente análisis, mi estimado @gavvet. Sin embargo, me gustaría plantear algo: @Joeyarnoldvn dice: "Convenido. Antes éramos inmortales." Pero, si eran inmortales y no podían morir... ¿Para que tenían que comer de lo que se producía en el huerto? Si una persona no se alimenta, de hecho, morirá en pocos días. Si la primera pareja en el huerto necesitaba comer, entonces parece que no eran inmortales y ahí cito sus propias palabras cuando dijo "Somos lo que comemos". ¿Será posible que ellos tuvieran un tiempo de vida muy, muy largo? ¿Tal vez unos 1000 años? Y parece que fue necesario que antes que se les terminara su tiempo de vida en esta tierra, fue necesario introducir (a través de ellos) el pecado en el mundo para darle paso a todo el plan que ha estaba preparado desde antes de la fundación del mundo. Algo curioso hallé en las palabras del apóstol Pablo cuando dijo en la carta a los Romanos capítulo 7: 9 "Y yo sin la ley vivía en un tiempo; pero venido el mandamiento, el pecado revivió y yo morí." Parece ser que esa escritura hace referencia a Adán, puesto que Pablo, nunca vivió sin ley. Entonces, el "pecado" con la puesta en marcha de esa ley NO COMERAS revivió dentro de él algo que estaba dormido, creando entonces la potestad de elegir entre ser como dioses o mantenerse unido espiritualmente con su Creador. Mi Upvote para este post.
Cubriremos la inmortalidad y la muerte la próxima semana
Fantastic comment!
@gavvet, estaré muy pendiente para seguir leyendo sus posts y compartir de tan grandioso tema
The first time when I see a comment making over $50 and I don't understand it!
An oops with my trigger finger... but it turns out this comment asks some deep questions.
I'll take an oops lol just JK
Will use google translate on my laptop in few hours man! Wish you a great time... and btw...if universe is infinite...that means there is an infinity of earths. I think this make sense
i am guessing this is a very beautiful illustration or analogy. can someone please translate it? i will realy love to know what @oneray has said and learn from it too. thanks
"Excellent analysis, my dear @gavvet. However, I would like to raise something: @Joeyarnoldvn says: "Agreed. We were immortal." But, if they were immortal and could not die ... Why did they have to eat what was produced in the garden? If a person does not feed, in fact, he will die in a few days. If the first couple in the garden needed to eat, then it seems that they were not immortal and I quote their own words when he said "We are what we eat". Could it be possible for them to had a very, very long lifetime? Maybe 1000 years? And it seems that it was necessary that before their time of life on this earth was ended, it was necessary to introduce (through them) the sin in the world to give way to the whole plan that was prepared before the foundation of the world. Something curious I found in the words of the apostle Paul when he said in the letter to the Romans chapter 7: 9 "And without the law I lived at one time: but the commandment came, and sin revived, and I died." It seems that this writing refers to Adam, since Paul, never lived without law. Then, the "sin" with the implementation of that law "YOU WON'T EAT" revived within him something that was asleep, creating then the power to choose between being as gods or staying spiritually united with his Creator. My Upvote for this post."
I hope this help you, @outhori5ed.
Thanks alot @oneray. I greatly appreciate you interpreting this. The law is what revealed sin and the knowledge of a 'law' is an evidence that your WILL can either keep it or break it. Adam and Eve had their will to whatever choice they wanted.
If the instruction was not given, they wouldn't have broken it. Agreed? Let me briefly show you how the law influence your WILL. Obey the command below.
"Don't think of a red car"
What happened?
Jajaja. It is a very good example. Sorry for my English. I'm from Venezuela. I think that they had one choice, but it was necesary to insert the sin in the world through Adam and Eve. Thanks for your upvote and your comment. I apreciate it a lot.
thank you sir. your comment was really an eyeopener. i am very greatful you shared this
1 Sam 15:22 says "And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams."
It seems as if OBEDIENCE is what God desires even though the freedom of will is an option. Although there is a sacrifice in being obedient because you essentially sacrifice your free will, it seems that these "catch 22" situations are a test of whether we bow to the Lord's will or whether we exercise free will, but ultimately in the situation of Adam and Eve, they chose free will ultimately resulting in consequences of that choice. Just as in the world, my free will tells me not to pay taxes, but the will of the govt is that I do like an obedient citizen otherwise I will have to deal with the consequence of my disobedience. You would think that free will and the exercise of choice should be rewarded, but I guess that there's some merit to being humble and obedient.
Leyendo este comentario, respecto de la obediencia a Dios y su recompensa, vienen a mi mente las palabras del apóstol Pablo, cuando les decía en su carta a los Romanos: ¿Hay injusticia en Dios respecto a las decisiones que Él toma? ¿Quién puede resistirse a la Voluntad de Dios? Al final, parece que Dios hará como quiere y con quien quiere. Pero... ¿El libre albedrío será real? ¿Tenemos realmente la capacidad de decidir o elegir por nosotros mismos? A Moisés el Gran Yo Soy dijo: "Tendré misericordia de aquel a quien yo tenga misericordia, y tendré compasión de quien yo tenga compasión" Por lo tanto, "no es de quien quiera, ni de quien corre, sino de Dios que da misericordia." ¿Somos realmente quienes tomamos las decisiones o simplemente Dios susurra en nuestro oído para que al final hagamos lo que siempre Él ha querido? Un ejemplo que me hizo pensar acerca de esto fue con Faraón cuando Dios le dijo: "Para este mismo propósito te he levantado, para mostrar mi poder en ti, y para que mi nombre sea declarado por toda la tierra." ¿Y qué podemos decir acerca de Jonás? A la final, tuvo que ir a predicar a Nínive, a pesar que había decidido huir de Tarsis. Cuando veo todos estos ejemplos y medito en ellos, también sale a la luz esa Escritura que me abofetea cuando dice: "Mas tú, oh hombre, ¿quién eres tú para responder contra Dios? ¿Dirá la cosa formada al que la formó: ¿Por qué me has hecho así?" Entonces me digo a mí mismo: ¡Qué profundo es todo esto! Y regreso aquí, para volver a leer el post, que tan amablemente @gavvet puso a disposición de todos nosotros.
The tree of life is the coconut tree and the tree of knowledge of good and evil is the cacao fruit tree. Theobroma Cacao, literally food of the gods.
Jaja. Then Venezuela is the Eden's Garden, because here there are a lot of them. They are ragweeds to the palate.
Adam and Eve were perfectly capable of having offspring in the Garden, otherwise the commandment to be fruitful and multiply would be completely meaningless and God does not contradict Himself.
Also, after the fall, God says to Eve: Unto the woman he said, I will greatly MULTIPLY thy sorrow and thy conception; in SORROW thou shalt bring forth children... (Gen. 3:16 KJV) - thus, conception was possible before the fall, but was a more rare event, and childbearing seems to have been much less painful.
The childlike state of Adam was not permanent, and God wanted to educate him Himself, as Adam was God's son, bearing the title as a direct personal creation of God. "Who told thee that thou wast naked?" (Gen. 3:11 KJV) - the question is who; it does not preclude the possibility of Adam's learning about it from his Creator later.
this really is an eye opener, it logically explains the account of creation.
Wow! Excellent response to the Adam and Eve allegory. This is an interesting conversation on both sides. Does beg the question of free will. Before or after the apple? Thanks for the thinking point. 🐓🐓
Hey, didn't expect to see you here @mother2chicks :)
Are you here to find out what came about first, the hen or the egg? :D
I'm still working on the next CC, btw ;)
Yes, here this morning trying to figure out life in general. Got to keep an eye on you. Think you will have this chicken/egg thing worked out before me. Lol! Good day to you my friend! 🐓🐓
Good night friend, - for me, as I'm in Asia right now.
The hen was first though, I've had this figured out for awhile now :)
Cluck-cluck!
His post carries weight though, most of it makes sense but you are 100% correct. God won't set us up to fail.
Agreed.
A lot of excellent points made here. I am inclined to agree with abcdoctor though on this one. Good case for some conversation. Thanks. 🐓🐓
cluck-cluck :)
Agreed. We were immortal before.
OK, how, by your logic, does this conception occur when only after partaking of the fruit and their eyes are opened, is there a need for aprons?
...and, who was born there?
The fact that no one was born in the Garden does not mean childbirth was impossible; it was possible, there simply wasn't enough time.
I don't follow how the need for covering after the fall proves anything in this case.
The original plan was for mankind to be fruitful and multiply in their un-fallen state, - only then could they perfectly image their Creator in their subduing of the rest of the Earth - the expansion of the Garden of Eden.
Are you suggesting that God's plan was frustrated and that the adversary won because of something an omniscient God did not foresee?
That seems far less palatable to me than that the fall was foreseen and planned for all along, In fact the fall was a crucial aspect of the plan.
I absolutely agree with that one; known unto God are all His works from the beginning of creation. Yet, God glorifies Himself despite the disobedience of the vessels He chooses to use, eventually bringing them to an even better state of usefulness/spiritual fitness.
The story of the birth of the nation of Israel is a mess; Joseph was sold into slavery; David sinned with Bathsheba, etc, etc.
I believe when God gives a commandment, He provides everything needed for its carrying out, along with the commandment.
I'm reminded of Israel's rejection of Christ at this point. He came unto His Own, His Own received Him not... Yet Jesus wept over Jerusalem, and rebuked the nation for not recognizing the hour of her visitation. Any such emotions and rebukes wouldn't make sense if there was no viable offer of the Kingdom, and a real possibility of Israel's accepting the offer.
I believe this discussion comes very close to, or even becomes, a dispute on the subject of election and that is one of the most controversial topics in theology.
Blessings.
Good story @gavvet
Gave your write up a read through. Thank you for your insights and ideas about this interesting story of mankind and his origins passed on down through the ages.
I think the thing that most people miss about this story is that when Adam and Eve partake of the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil something more significant happened than them becoming aware of good and evil and a basic choice between those two points of reference... in actuality... they became aware of the ever present fact that evil and good existed at exact same time... the question of "What is truth?" Is therefore answered here.
It has taken me a long time to realize this but it came as a simple shift... so much of what society conditions us for is to frame the world and it's constructs and ideologies as black and white, right and wrong, good and evil... but in actuallity... life is more about pros and cons than rights and wrongs.
Why do I say this? Because I believe that when it says, "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" it means that for the first time their eyes were opened to the fact that both good and evil existed side by side and in different varying purportions. Just as a photograph is made apparent to the eye because of the recognition between the contrasts of light and shadow so to was the opening of their eyes to the world as a medium of good and evil at the exact same moment in time.
For isn't it true that when one does good to one evil may also result for another at the exact same time. It is the nature of time in its limited state... if you are to devote your love and attention to one cause it is only at the sacrifice of another. So much of life's format is controlled by this force of change and choice.
When you are innocent and ignorant of the fact your eyes are closed to the power of your will and it's subsequent causes and effects. But when your eyes are open to "the knowledge of good and evil" you suddenly realize the true weight of your life's decisions. Decisions that ripple through time and can not be stopped like a stone dropped into a pool of water. It signals to the aware mind the fact that ones choices yield a mixture of both good and evil in the world... and that this is a force ever present like the force of gravity shaping the world and the men in motion upon it.
This analysis amazes me because I learned something very similar in my philosophy class with the paralel with the matrix!! Keep up the skills mr philospher:)
Very interesting post, if I can give the award for you the most appropriate is no 1. the way you tell and the concept that is so touching to religion so that we can be there. Thank you for sharing, I love it so much that-until I read it several times and can understand clearly.
blaspemous gavet...loved it.
How so? ;)
How do you mean?
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Interesting article i mudt admit.
thankd ;)
As an atheist, I can honestly say I appreciate this exposition (and the series as a whole). Explorations at the edges are the only way for us to glimpse true consciousness and experience the now.
I believe in adaptation more than evolution or in any moment is the same? i don't know is a complex topic. Great post
accumulated adaptions lead to eventual evolution.
And what about the intelligent design theory? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design)
Or maybe we shouldn't get that discussion started here! Could be a very long and heated discussion :o
Think about this... mutations that bring about adaptation and evolution are seemingly random and uncontrollable.
The "natural selection" of subsequent adaptations is determined by the environment.
Manipulate the environment and then you are able to manipulate what is "naturally selected".
Control the environment sufficiently for long enough and you are able to control what evolves.
Artificial selection through selective breeding demonstrates exactly this principle and that is how Darwin figured out natural selection.
If artificial selection had been going on for millions of years we would have more than just fancy breeds of cats, dogs and other domestic animals.
Read over this response a few times to fully absorb it. Makes sense.
Fascinating analysis, I'd almost place this more in the category of life philosophy than religion..obviously the story stems from a religious source but the analysis is more philosophical...how we should live life, freedom of choice, etc.
historic source
Agreed...
yep!
Amazing analysis @gavvet, i love the way you quoted that he broke one law in order to obey another!
Lovely read!
Cheers
@progressivechef
@gavvet - This is one of the most rational treatments I have seen of the religious beliefs and stories that go with it. A very logical explanation of the childlike state of Adam and Eve that actually prevented them from obeying their first mandate, desire to know the difference between good and evil - knowledge which lead ultimately to their breaking a law to obey the first mandate (Adam's transgression). In my opinion, we should be thankful for Adam's transgression. Such rational looks at laws and sometimes transgression of some for the greater good should perhaps be inculcated in our thinking styles rather than blindly following the letter of the law as we usually do. Thanks for this interesting blog. Upvoted.
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Indeed, if It were not for Adam's transgression we would not be here, still waiting for our turn on earth to learn by our own experience.
And Bitcoin has 2 choices too.
lol, I love the parallel.
Another brilliant post @gavvet. I enjoy reading your opinion and view. We are all faced with choices everyday of our lives, whether they are right or wrong we bare the consequences of those choices.
very interesting
I know a bit about the story: Adam and about the tree
But I have never heard the effects of the tree and I have never heard the reasons why the fruit of the tree can not be consumed at that time.
A little more, you write about the country's guidelines and imply that country as a child. But you did not mention the country. I am curious.
Good post, thank you for sharing.
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Except of course that God chose to make them that way in the first place. Thus, either God changed Its mind after realizing "Hey, waitaminute. They can't reproduce and multiply if they aren't corrupted by sinful thoughts!" OR God always intended to screw them over by putting them in the aforementioned Catch-22.
That poor serpent! He gets such a bad rap! He was basically Morpheus and the apple (or fig. Or date) was totally the original Red Pill.
Well written. I am one of those that does understand that there was 2 trees and the results of each.
Most people just think they were thrown out of Eden because they sinned.
Thanks for the post. Enjoyed the reading!
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In our culture, Adam was created from the ground, Eva was created from Adam's rib.
But I believe that the ribs are just a metaphor, can not be taken literally.
As for Eva eating the fruit of the khuldi, it is mentioned because of Satan's seduction. However, the whole story of Adam an Eva - besides being created from the ground - is a metaphor, I think.
Including that, about positioning the devil as the evil character in the story.
It is good to know @gavvet is into bible study as well, another reason to pay even closer attention. Religion and politics are two topics most people prefer to stay away from discussing on social media because of the vast difference in beliefs and opinions can create uneasiness among some people. This is very interesting, it can take hours sharing opinions and beliefs when it comes to biblical theology etc. For example my interpretation of the story given to us about Adam and Eve and the tree of life etc. is different from others. First of all from my research and my own knowledge and believe, I don't think it was even a "tree" and eating fruit from this "special tree of life"... I like to dig deeper into stuff and try to make sense out of non-sense, while praying and seeking wisdom. It is the same idea and both interpretations convey the same message though, but the bible version is a simpler version that was more reader friendly and non graphical. Our bodies are the temple of God as the bible said, and we were created in the likeness and image of God. And he love us so much, even more than the angels in heaven that he gave us the freedom of choice and gave us (Adam and Eve) dominion over all the beasts and birds etc. Do you think our all mighty God, the creator of all things will put the sacred knowledge of good and evil in a forsaken tree of life first of all? Even if he wanted to put that knowledge somewhere, he could't think about anywhere other than in the same garden with Adam and Eve? We all know from the bible and Sunday school that the devil was in that same garden tempting eve to eat the "fruit" and gain the forbidden knowledge. So we know that the devil already was evil so he knew about evil and had evil in him but he was once good. The same devil who hated the creation of human and want to destroy humans and defile them and show the creator that they will disobey and turn to evil. I think the devil tempted Eve to defile her body (which is the temple of God), which he created in his own image and likeness. What better way to disrespect God and pass on an evil spiritual connection though the soul. Besides eating something and contaminating her body which is the temple of God, Eve could have been tempted to do sexual acts with the devil which contaminated her body, soul, and mind and open up her mind to evil. Do you think a man (Adam) would've been susceptible to eating the sacred forbidden fruit (with strict warnings from God not to eat it) with thousands of other fruits to choose from, simply because his woman (Eve) encouraged him to eat it or do you think it is more believable that his woman was sexually seducing him with new sexual moves/feelings and knowledge he never new about, which his woman had just learned about ? I don't know, this is just my opinion.
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Adam was the first man created on earth. Because only life alone, he then asked a friend to god and taken by God a rib from his body. The ribs are then changed by God into a woman named eve. Because Adam and Eve broke the command of God to not eat the fruit of the tree. God then threw them into the world. Both are separated at a great distance so they can not meet each other.
After god separated Adam and Eve, the two human ancestors continued to search for one another. Feeling that he had made a big mistake and sin, Adam and Eve also prayed for repentance to ask forgiveness and to meet again.
The tree of knowledge that found in the middle of eden is forbidden. There creator warn Adam if eaten they die. But Eve take some and eat not bec. she choose doing it. Its because somebody tell her to do so. Its the same thing happen to Adam. No choices to choose from, but an entity dictates what to do.
This looks like choice to me...
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Hmmm ... in the Qur'an a lot to discuss about Adam and Eve.
Adam's action just as example for us so we could learn from his mistake.
We could fix our wrong, as long as we wanna try.
Wow! Great post! Lots of information! Thanks.
I am very happy to accept this natural creativity in the universe as a reinvention of God...
Thanks, very good info. I'am going to check out the rest of the series.
Very interesting article! Keep going!
Long story short they banged and then there was an evolution.
Clearly shows how we as humans are given a choice and whichever path we go down has either a negative or positive repercussions. We just have to be obedient to God or face the consequences.
Really enthralling post @gavvet
I do not agree with the notion that it took disobedience for them to enter into obedience or alignment with another instruction. I believe that when God made man in His image, He was able to achieve what he set out to do it did not take the engagement/interference of the serpent to "have His image" formed in man (they were not partners). Besides, Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; ....... paints a different picture and Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. Concludes it, God could not have considered it all as being very good upon evaluation if the jewel of the crown was defective!
The saviors mission was to pay for our sins, be crucified and give up his life for us, yet it was the adversary that put it into the hearts of his critics and opposition to have him put to death.
God is omniscient and knows the actions all players will take under a given set of circumstances. Just because God knows the end from the beginning and therefore the actions of all actors does not make him responsible for or partnered with those who have evil designs. Evil designs however can be put to good purpose though and bring about positive ends.
The evil designs of the plotting political elite in Jerusalem enabled the most sublime and far reaching act of all of this creation namely, the Atonement of Jesus Christ
In as much as i agree with the drift of thought in your reply, I disagree with the previous inference that it took the fall of man & the consequent knowledge of good and evil to bring man into the likeness of God as He intended when man was created.
I know all things without exception all together respond to God and He cannot be blindsided nor taken for surprise. After all He made all things and all things are sustained by Him and without Him was nothing made that was made.
If God is God he preplanned this to happen.
He was bored by their presence
or perhaps a persons free will is the only thing that God will not exert power over?
So many theories man.. I don't know what to believe.. I just believe there is a big power...God.aliens..nothing..only the universe know
"Only when our choices are our own can we truly be accountable for them and only then can the ensuing consequences be considered just." - How do you know the thoughts in your head are yours? I know there those out there with the power to mind control or thought control. Great post, just had to ask that question. Sometimes, I will have thoughts in my head and I would stop and think, these are not my thought or my regular thought stream.
I wish Adam never ate the apple!
Thanks, your post great!
I always enjoy your work and how you try to make your work physical and easily lived. BUT do you know that when their eyes opened another (the spiritual) closed? Adam was created in the image and likeness of God and Eve was extracted from him (the image and likeness of God). to me, this means that Eve was already like God and the devil sold her own identity to her for a price too great to pay.
i wil like to discuss more about this in the eye of the Gospel and not literally. i enjoy the part that you make this creation story like a growth phase but it is more. Do you know that the action man took made him fall from dominion? he became afraid of the things that he lorded over and he became subject to what he had authority over. Jesus' life on earth is an example of how Adam was supposed to live-above only and in dominion.
thanks for sharing @gavvet
I'm just learning. This is too deep for me to know what to say. Thought provoking post. Thanks for sharing @gavvet.