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RE: Introducing our first Crypto Market Scanner

in #trading7 years ago (edited)

Hi Luc,

Thanks for the video -The marker scanner is a game changer . Special thanks to @nervisrek for making this tool.

I have some questions for you which I think will benefit a lot of people with small accounts (less than $400) which are just getting started

  1. Using the market scanner to focus on what you call "account building" trades -is there any criteria which we should look for in order to decide if a trade will be an "account building" one or not ?

  2. With or without the market scanner do you think it is possible to double an account value in one month by trading JUST ETH (since it always bounces back). So if I have let`s say $300 in my account and i decide to trade just Ethereum how likely it is to have $600 at the end of the month?

  3. This was probably asked a lot already -What if after I draw my "bases" I see that the coin didnt break the base ? It seems to happen quite often..... Should we wait till the base will break or we should see if there was another base formed and hope to have a break on the new one ? Or better asked how long we should wait for a base to break before deciding if we should see if there`s another base formed and move on?

  4. When you say "position trading" (not day trading) do you mean holding and selling a coin after a few days/weeks or what timeframe do you think it`s a good one for position trading ?

  5. This is more of a statement -please correct me if needed : We can use the market scanner to build a small account and then move onto position trading where a single trade (which can take days to happen) could easily mean thousands or tens of thousands of dollars depending on the investment and how high the value of that coin will go. (i`m thinking here about ETH price drop to $136 or so which happend recently and then a big bounce back to $240)

One last thing -when you say to go small for those day trades how small we should be ? Put $10 on a trade $50, $100 or?

I appologize in advance for the long set of questions but I strongly think everyone which is new to trading and has a low account like myself would benefit a lot from your answers

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Thanks everyone for helping answer questions like this. I am having a hard time keeping up.. I think the answers below are great.. I can get maybe 30-50 position trades per month.. But i usually take 20ish.. and daytrades happen several times a day... So you can absolutely build a small account on position trades alone, without the need to take the added risk of daytrading or small account building type trades.. You can just swing those slower base type trades and still do good.. But with the Account building trades and other types of daytrades you can double your small account in a week or less sometimes.. so those are the options..

Let me take 2 seconds to show you a chart, that I just traded and please respond what think about it...
Notice that for the past two weeks you can buy 11s or 12s and sell 14s 15s and 16s even sometimes.. imagine the effect that has on a small account if you were only trading this one coin only.. and there are even better ones out there, im just using this one because i just just sold some right now..

These rises and falls comes in spurts throughout the day, likely from either a pump and dump action or some whale buying or selling huge. That's why you'll see no activity in the transaction history for a couple of hours sometimes. Lurk the chat on HITB and you may be able to catch a pump and dump

@quickfingersluc I've been trying to do the account builder trades. I've noticed a lot of the time I get "stuck" waiting for movement between " bid walls". There seems to be a lot of attempts at pump and dumps/manipulation down in the low volume alts.

the volume of trades on this chart scares me, there was no activity for 40 minutes this morning - should we not be concerned with that? On the bright side the lvl1 data shows some significantly sized orders ready to take place, but what if that was not that case - for example LGD/ETH [BTRX]?

The chart seems nice, and more lively than few others I've tried. It seems its common for ETH pairs to move in nice channels, and maybe even less common pairs like altcoin/XMR, but in BTC I didn't find any pairs with similar movement that would give me at least 10% reliably. To me it seems that in altcoin/BTC pairs it's better to trade pumps, coins with volatility like XST and UNB that have huge movement.

EXACTLY. The limitation trading these coins is how much one can put in an order. Typically you may only get a couple of ETH orders filled maybe 1k USD worth at the most, hence Luc's phrase of small account building trades

I did a few trades on something like SNM/ETH, I think this type of chart in essence is simpler(except liquidity problems when your orders don't get filled) to trade along with the base strategy. But I don't trust myself too much to trade btc pair pumps and daytrades, those seem much more complicated. Without using any TA I can read percentage of a pump, base, timescale, and how most of these coins seem to pump after a significant dip, but I don't feel that's reliable enough. And daytrading is a whole new level, along with considering the order book & news & etc(except getting in time for flash wicks down, these seem pretty safe to not lose out on). Maybe I should just get some ETH and move on to these range/channel types of charts for now.

Man, you seem smart enough to be making a killing off of these coins. Honestly, there is no TA other than your own analysis so trust your own judgement. Look at patterns, understand what is going on with the trading environment, and come up with a good strategy then go for it. This sounds pretty basic and sometimes it works out, sometimes it'll go against you.....just have a backup plan. More than often I think you'll win since its fuckin crypto, as long as you understand and read the chart correctly.

Also make sure to know which coin you are trading. Coins like UET you just dont want to touch.

Hey man, thanks for all your help and the great videos!!.. i've been drawing my bases , and ive noticed something.. i can see the bases a lot clearer with heikin ashi sticks instead of the candles.. i assume there is nothing wrong with that right?..

thanks again!

What are the best charts to watch for position trades? I only really know of the ETH/USDT chart.

All of them. I review all of the charts daily,this gives you the greatest opportunity for success.

...and you go back 1-2 months into the history to confirm that there the chart follows the pattern of base creation, base crack, panic, base creation, base crack, panic, base creation?

I have looked through many charts that seem to follow no particular pattern, and many more that don't follow the pattern that Luc is advocating that we look for... at least they don't follow it with any degree of consistency that we can count on.

I guess I was asking if anyone has identified charts that are in the ball park of reliability as ETH/USDT?

Once again, ALL charts have this reliability eventually - just be paitent and read the charts daily, eventually you will find the opportunities. Some charts I see prime opportunities in the past, but none currently - thats a fact of life while trading, its not free money, you still need to put in a little bit of work and be willing to take a risk.

With that said, here is an example of a chart which opened up to a great trading opportunity overnight. Once the price dips into the circle, your trade should be +EV if you sell upon the bounce back to the base.

https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/597e0e27c99d3/

Thank you for the reply and the chart share. I agree that I'll have to learn the story of the chart before being able to capitalize on oppurtunity, so I will keep trying to interpret them because apparently my thinking and pattern recognition is currently too rigid.

With the chart you shared, there is no way I would have recognized that base. There are a few instances of similar bounces working out, but it doesn't seem to follow much of a pattern to me. Especially since 12 hours later another bounce happened that was equal to the bounce you underlined, but we ignore that one. I also don't really understand your circle in reference to the underlined base, but I'll keep watching to see how it plays out.

I don't expect you to go back and forth holding my hand on this one, but I figured a response may help increase value for someone else that is struggling to understand this chart.

Thanks again, and all the best!

https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/597e19804d2b9/
https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/597e1a4620dfa/

@quickfingersluc -This chart looks great. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I will definitely keep an eye on it. Can you also recommend some other coins that I should keep in mind (since you said there are others even better than this) ? whatever you feel might be an "account building" type of chart... this would help me a lot. I do understand that its my responsability to do my due diligence before buying a coin but I would love to have a few of those charts set up so if Im not asking too much please feel free to share others like this.

Once again thanks for your input

Hi octavyo... did you have any luck finding those small building account charts?

  1. I think he means common big swings on a coin, 20-30-40%. Coins with lower volume that can move in such ranges.
  2. Probably possible but on ETH he mainly trades big swings, that could be one per month or few a month. To get to $600 u would have to trade off all the smallest bases most likely.
  3. Personally I think previous bases are secondary, the newest one counts. U can look at the previous one if it's breaking it, or there's no new one forming. I don't wait for anything.
  4. Position trading is trading off bases. The time varies, from a day-two to weeks.
  5. Luc told me once to trade low volume coins till i make a few thousand, 3 or maybe 5 to make swing trading give significant returns. So maybe use mostly these daytrading methods he mentioned + trading pumps on low volume coins like mentioned before.

With position trading I believe he's talking about identifying a base and buying off the "panic sell" You hold onto to it until it reaches the base or comes near to it (study the chart's history to see how high the bounces in the past have reached, this will give you an idea of where you should sell).
Correct me if I'm wrong.

"One last thing -when you say to go small for those day trades how small we should be ? Put $10 on a trade $50, $100 or?"
A small trade is Relative to your account size.
So if you have total account of say $100, small would be $5
If your account is $1000, small would be $50

Trading in percentages of your total account makes sense, so you can

  1. better diversify coins by having multiple trades going on
  2. limit risk
  3. leave room to add more to an ongoing trade.

3-10% of your total account makes sense for cryptos. Some professionals say no more than 5%, but do whatever you feel comfortable and within your goals. With smaller accounts, better to go higher to increase your chances of doubling your account.