A witness vote for @jerrybanfield is a vote for the end of Steem

in #witness6 years ago (edited)

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The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzjerry


If you haven't seen @jerrybanfield's latest trending post (no, not the one of him giving himself blowjobs for 13+ years, the other one about flagging).

@jerrybanfield had a $1,000+ trending post saying the price of Steem is falling because of flagging and he wants to remove flags from the blockchain. When he announced this previously on SteemSpeak he immediately dropped from #19 to #21 within minutes. Unfortunately, he got back to top 20 shortly after.

He recently went and made an hour video talking about how he gave himself blowjobs for 13+ years, so long that he has scars on his back and has major back troubles. This brought him down to #31 in a few days. While I don't think this is really witness related, the fact he put it on trending for $1,000+ is. Steem already has an image problem and Jerry's nonsense, inaccuracies, and questionable (scammy?) actions give outsiders the impression we are a bunch of idiots and scammers.

Take his recent post where he says Steem's price is falling because of flags and for the blockchain to grow (and as a result, the price) we need to remove flags. Removing flags would be the death of Steem, there would be no stopping the plagiarism, spam, and scams on the platform. Trending would be even worse than it is now. Jerry's post went from $1,200 to below $400 because the community disagrees with it. Regardless how people feel about flags, most flags are the result of one person caring about Steem more than another.

Jerry has admitted he doesn't even write all his posts, he doesn't even run his own witness, he frequently shows he has no clue how the system works, and frequently promotes shady and grotesque content to the top of trending making us all look like fools and scaring off potential investors and users. His only redeeming quality is his promotion of Steem (which he says he is stopping due to flags scaring away new users), but he promotes Steem in all the wrong ways and for the wrong reasons.

The fact the community feels Jerry Banfield is top witness material tells a lot about the current state of Steem. Do we have that many people who just don't give a fuck where we go and how we get there?

I get Jerry is passionate and entertaining, but he is frequently wrong and only really cares about himself. Want some examples?

  • Jerry's sorry post for his account creation service ripoff claiming he didn't know about alternatives (yet he posted about them weeks prior). He tried to charge 50 Steem to create a new account for users and a 10-20 Steem guilt trip "tip" for something that was available for 5 Steem.
  • Jerry ripping off the SteemFest brand for SteemFest 2.5 asking users to delegate 5,000 Steem Power to his bid bot for a ticket. Later changing the name and I think even cancelling it.
  • Jerry's 10X SMT that upvotes everyone 10x their delegated Steem Power. JBC SMT Launch Canceled, Buyers Refunded, Voting Bot Coming Back Online!
  • Jerry's $180 witness course promoting every user to become witness as it is a "get rich quick" position and charging for information readily available for free when he is the last person to teach being a witness.
  • Pay $999 to get an upvote every 2 days from a 15K account (roughly 5 year break even period).


Jerry frequently promotes absurd nonsense to trending making Steem(it) look like a get rich quick ponzi scheme then back peddles with an apology post worth a few hundred dollars. Is that the type of witness we want representing the community and our platform? Every vote for Jerry is another vote for this nonsense and ultimately the demise of Steem.

We already have a problem where a large portion of the witnesses in the top 50 are not part of the community anymore. Jerry's actions are even worse for the community. They make us as a community and as a young blockchain look bad.

"If another community presents a better opportunity for free speech on the blockchain and good rewards for authors before Steem removes the ability to flag from the blockchain, I will sell all of my Steem and use my blog here to exclusively promote that competitor."
- Jerry Banfield (your top 20 witness)




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He has no idea how everything works.

Flags even contribute to the growth of steem price by keeping the rewards low-->supply low-->high price.

The reward pool gets paid out either way. Post/comment rewards are distributed to everyone else when they are downvoted.

He has no idea how life works.

witness vote removed. was unaware of this comedy routine. hard to trust an opinion coming from the same mouth as they are spitting their own cum out of. to each his own, but there are some things better left private.

No one EVER Claimed he "spits"

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LOL

I am embarrassed for him.

He actually said that he swallows.

Well done, and its about time he was blacklisted, I dropped his ass a long time ago, good riddance! Thanks for taking out the garbage @themarkymark ! upped and resteemed for all to see!👍👍👍

Many creators put out quality material and can not even make $5.00 a post and he makes hundreds off of junk or shitposts. Many of the small blogs here cannot even buy upvotes because they do not have to SBD or Steem to do it with and when they try someone else buys a large upvote so their bought vote is crap. In my case, I do not even try it anymore because it is a waste.

i think buying upvotes has promotional aim but not to take a profit. And youre rigth there are planty of quaility creators but they need time gather subscribers. Persistence is a key

Subscribers are absolutely useless. 1% of people who follow me actually upvote my post.
Also, it doesn't matter if you have 5k followers. If they all have zero account value, their votes are worthless anyway. Upvotes don't mean a damn thing on this platform if you don't have whales that constantly upvote you.

A couple hundred plankton votes consistently adds up, but you gotta get them on AUTOVOTER

It is a promotional tool but if you do not have enough to hit high on the trending page it is useless most of the time.

I agree persistence is the key. As I have been trying over a year now, wondering when it will happen. I guess I am not putting out good content for people to read. I will just keep on trying and one day it might get better. That is my hope anyway! I have 1490 followers but most are in the same boat I am in, small and not getting any attention at all.

I just wish this idiot posted the bathroom video BEFORE I fucking invested here. I was led to believe this was the future of social networking, when in fact it's a sorry piece of shit which led to my ruin.

WHAT a piece of comment....you nailed it lolz.

What is this bathroom video you speak of? lol

Jerry lost his witness vote from me for the blowing himself video. I didn't even know he wanted to remove flags.. that's just stupid.. maybe he's been smoking spice.. smh

The fact the community feels Jerry Banfield is top witness material tells a lot about the current state of Steem. Do we have that many people who just don't give a fuck where we go and how we get there?

I think it's ignorance. Jerry is a beacon to a lot of new users because

  1. He is at the top of trending and new users don't know it's garbage yet
  2. He has a lot of dated content out there that people use to educate themselves on steem

New users make up a large number of the available votes out there. If those votes are powered by ignorance, the guy that is capitalizing the most off it is Jerry.

You have to play the long game here. Eventually, these people wise up or leave. If they leave, he gets to keep the vote. If they wise up, then guys like you get the vote. Hopefully, that change comes soon for votes to expire. That's really the only way to knock him off his throne.

grotesque > grotest. I don't know what grotest is.

Hey @themarkymark I was introduced to steemit by jerry and looked up to him as a better content creator to follow, but the few months I've used steemit I realized he was not doing the right things here and unfollowed him, thanks for clearinh his position to us and now I have lost all respect for him as a content creator.

I am not as deep into this topic and the person in question as I should be, but there are a couple things I want to say.

  1. Flags are scary to new users.
    I have been for about five weeks now and everytime I see certain individuals around here posting, I end up not wanting to be a part about that matter because of how flag-heavy they and their followers are. I am not going to say any names, but you probably know the ones.

  2. I am not a fan of witch hunting.
    I can see why this Jerry Banfield isn't everyones most favorite person at the moment, but witch hunting never really solved anything either. I also don't want new posters that come here to see that this is a place where witch hunting isn't only possible but also accepted and permitted.

  3. Steemit in general needs to do a better job at teaching it's users on how to properly use it and understand the surroundings. In fact, I think that steemit still needs a lot of changes and additions if it wants to play in the very big leagues, but let us put this to the side for now.

I can understand your feelings on this topic. I am sure you will understand mine.

I couldn't have said things better myself. Flagging to remove wrong doing is one thing but flagging is abused and used for censorship, it's as plain as the nose on someone's face and it's wrong. It holds back the growth of Steemit and discourages participation on steemit.

Flagging is also a abuse tool when it comes to the witch hunting aspect. I don't care that Jerry wants to sell memberships to people for fifty bucks, it no more of a scam then a lot of other scams on here. Like neglecting to tell people when they sign up that essentially unless you buy in, invest in bots or delegate your chances of getting attention to any quality post is slim to none. What he said or done is no worse than half the stuff you see Bernie say or that guys he's always fighting with ripping off the place for hundreds of thousands of dollars, I mean really people these guys are on trending all the time and they haven't stopped many people from investing or joining. Actually Bernie and his antics make for a rather good joy ride down the comment section, it's rather comical, livens the place up a bit. It's all these "colorful characters" that can make things interesting. So Jerry the snake oil salesman takes advantage....what's new about that?, sounds about right for this place. I just think once you start down this slope there's no turning back. I also personally think he needs help not people turning their backs on him.

I just would like to see steemit being a better place than reddit, financial aspects ignored.

I want people to be better, maybe that is utopic in itself.

Wait a minute, i take some pop-corn !
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Definitely resteem worthy. Removing flags? The dude is straight up out of his gourd.

The assertion that it should be made an only UI implementation is nonsense. So, just let the abusers walk away with rewards. It's cool as long as we don't see it. AMIRITE! /s

Glad to know this information I won't be voting for Jerry!

Everyday I am more and more flabbergasted, why you are not a top 20 witness.

The whole system stinks!

People vote for themarkymark!!

Because I don't have the one vote that matters.

we all want some pumpkin

Thanks to this post, I am going to remove my vote for jerry today. But I had heard something earlier about the top witness list being somehow a scam and your comment here seems to back that up. This is why it is hard for me to feel like I need to understand witnesses at all. If only one vote matters??? Wow.

Flaffing is nessesery

Dear themarkymark,

Firstly, I have to admit that I am in a hurry and did not read the whole article (please accept my apologies but I just cannot read your whole writing atm Edit: I read your whole post - statement at the end!).
Secondly, Idk a lot about you or @jerrybanfield; I simply "know" that you are big players in Steemit (powerful witnesses respectively whales [?] no one wants to mess with, I think).
Thirdly, flagging must not be removed! At least if it was we would need a similar (respectively better) option because bad content (scam, spam, flaming, plagiarism etc.) has to be kept under control (below the surface/'removed from Steemit'...).
I do not have a better solution currently for such issues - I am not a (great) developer (or powerful Steemian) anyway.


He recently went and made ... bunch of idiots and scammers.

Well, to my mind generally everyone can post and share with the world whatever he wants to - although I really do not think that such topics should be shared publicly, that is why you have friends for, normally (of course there are exceptions, as always; maybe he does not have any friends and so he 'needs' to share it on the Internet, no offense, I just do not know). I really do not want to sound impolite or anything like it.
Btw. naturally posting porn is forbidden but talking about it is not a problem (depends!).
Excuse me, I am not an expert when it comes to Steemit but how can he "put his own post on trending", does not he need the community for that? Oh well, he could have lots of bots or just a lot of money too (what he presumably has if he is a whale).
So that he fell back from #19 to #31 does not seem legitimate, but I highly probable do not know every single "crime" he has committed.
In my view, you should always (try to) act rationally - objectively not subjectively. Moreover as a powerful person. Be fair and do not just hate on others (only) because you do not like them...
Idk, I do not follow Jerry; but if he really is doing all these things you claim then he definitely should change something (or probably should have even earlier). Keyword: awareness (when you are an important Steemian, moreover as a witness). Witnesses should be intelligent, polite and fair - not just rich people.
And they definitely should not be sharing "inappropriate/stupid... stuff".

Yours truly,
Gandalf The White

PS: Steem did not (necessarily) fall because of flagging.

EDIT:

@themarkymark Well, now I have finally read the whole article and I (mostly) agree with you. Jerry's behavior is not appropriate. If everything you wrote is true then he definitely should not be a witness imo. That is very sad that someone like him got that far on Steemit.

Back when I first heard abouy Jerry my close friend told me Jerry was involved with a large company and had control over a large portion of the companys finances. Supposedly he used the money for his own purposes and caused that company quite the heartache. Im not sure about the finer details but it's food for thought.

Isn't his success built on piggybacking the curations? Too many upvote such guys like him just in the hope of making a crumb or too out of the curation rewards, isn't it?

Users see the big payouts and think that's going to give them big curation rewards, that's a big part of what makes his posts go up. I go over that in one of my older posts showing that voting on smaller unrewarded posts will yield far more curation rewards.

Yeah, I agree, finding and upvoting a hidden gem is much more important (and rewarding) than upvoting the big players without even reading them. Unfortunately, JB is exploiting that sheep effect at will, and not only him. And I can't see any algorythms changing that in the near future...

Well played. About time this lier gets banned

Do you really believe this image issue Steemit has, that it can be solved?

If you do believe, how can it be solved?

wait for the BULL RUN steem prize go up...bull run coming soon...

lol, what the hell do u know? lol

Lol, was a pretty good run this past few days so I guess he ended up being right. This stuff is moving like only penny stocks can.

It seems Jerry will be out this platform soon enough.

A witness vote for you is the end of steemit you make people not sign up you're most hated person on steemit people lick you're arse only coz you got power on here but in real life you are a loser stop spamming people and adding them to you're stupid blacklist add yourself to it do everyone a favour no cares about you they just want to get a upvote from you 😂😂😂😂😂

i 100% agree with your your opinion that the flaging system will make a controll over the man like Jerry, ( i dislike)otherwise the Workings of the steemit community will disturbs definitely.Thanks for a good post.

@ themarkymark Steem price rise or fall in the coming days?

@manishseo

We are going to moon by the end of the year , book your LAMBO while you have time !!

NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE.

@landmine appreciate that !!

No one knows.

Thankfully I didn’t vote for him, I was going through the other day and voting for witnesses and considered him but didn’t know about him.
What are the other witnesses that aren’t active? So I can remove my votes if I voted for them.

It is an amazing testimony about jerry.

For the last 12 hours i have been on Steem today,Jerry has had a field day.

I have read many posts about the negative side of Jerry,sorry for him though.

At the end, Good things happen to those who are true and do good to others. By the Wat was he among the first Steemians?

Hey! Thanks for giving the summary of what Jerry did on that video. I didn’t dare to watch it :)

Hey! Nice writes up! Btw: thanks for giving the summary of what Jerry did on that video. I didn’t dare to watch it :)

He has no idea how everything works.

Flags even contribute of the growth of steem by keeping the rewards low-->supply low-->high price.

agreed banfield is just doing bad for steemit see

I vote for all the witnesses surrounding him hoping that it helps him fall in the rankings.

I would prefer you voted for witnesses you believed in rather than blindly picking them, that's kind of how we got where we are.

Well, I can't downvote Jerry, so that's the best I can do. Getting him out of the top 20 changes things. So if we can keep him out it would be a blow to his finances.

...While might be putting to put another "Jerry" on top 20.

I dont think you would vote for president/congress under that logic right?

I have absolutely no idea how he is even in the top 50....just blows my mind.... he's never had my vote....ever... just looking at his face gives me the heebegeebee's....You sir have my vote and have had for quite some time...

Maybe hes doing the "Bad publicity is good publicity sort of thing"? That's not going to work on steem/steemit, this isn't like any other place on the planet. I'm just waiting for SMT to come out at this point because I feel it will kick things into 2nd gear.

Once a vote is placed for a witness does it remain there forever unless removed by the user?

I ask this question as I'm sure many newcomers show up, post a few articles, vote for a witness, and leave to never return. If this is the case maybe a better solution is forcing everyone to revote for their witness of choice each 1 year anniversary of their account. If they do not participate their witness votes are removed until they do.

You have 30 votes, you can put them on whoever you like and remove them at any time.

I was aware of that part. I was wondering about the potential countless accounts who have voted for a witness, but are no longer active on here. Do their votes continue to count forever?

If that is the case I think there would have to be a better process like something I mentioned above in order to encourage witnesses to continue to win over active users votes. Not allowing them to hold their position because they convinced a newcomer to vote for them 2 years ago right before hat new user gave up and left steemit forever.

Yes, they count forever and one of the issues plaguing witness voting. There are a lot of inactive witnesses that are still voted with a lot of stake and there are a lot of witnesses who gave up on Steem but still get a payday for their witness position.

Got it. I appreciate the explanation!

When I first joined, I thought that Jerry wasn't so bad.. then I continued reading and reading and realized that he is a phony and a scam artist.

I'm glad that you posted this and I hope that enough people read this and take it to heart. That guy is bad for the platform. I wish you could vote in the negative AGAINST a witness. There are a few witnesses who I would like to "down-vote" their witness power. I don't care if the down-vote takes up one of my 30 total votes .. Also, knowing the number of accounts that voted FOR vs Against a single witness while you're voting on the witness page would be helpful .... that would be a much more useful addition to the Steemit Ecosystem than removing flagging... ugh..

I am totally agree with you if a peraon can laugh at whole community with his nsfw post and go laughing that nobody will do anything its really bad for a great community like steemit

Couldn’t agree more.

...I will sell all of my Steem and use my blog here to exclusively promote that competitor.

Fortunately, after he sells all his Steem, no one will see his blog any longer.

Dude I'm not defending anything that Jerry does. but the guy has a point. did copyright protection software eliminated piracy? nope. we shouldn't take his proposal at face value, but it's right to have the discussion. if I for a moment think of withnesses as representatives, I wouldn't like to vote for a guy the practices bad politics. I.e. bad mouthing the other guy. I know some of you criticism is valid and not mean spirited. You obviously care about Steem. but it's okay to rethink downvoting, since it is proving uneffective in my view.

but it's okay to rethink downvoting, since it is proving uneffective in my view.

It has been proven to be very effective, but not often used.

Maybe against you. What gave that guy the right a couple weeks ago to not only take away information war rewards from my postings but also to flag the articles to take away the other few pennies on the account even AFTER it was proved through Steemcleaners I had the permission, blessing and gratitude from the author to post her stuff? It was pure vendetta driven from a dispute that he had no business being called into....no one corrects these wrongs and that's why flagging has got to go.

Well. I actually saw a stupid facebook post/video of jerry and that made me land here. I haven't got much influence here because steemit already has become very congested and i have been reporting it for a while now. The bots and pay-per-vote has kind of ruined the system but yeah, its the attitude of jerry and people like him at the top of the chain that has hit this most. I once saw his video asking for $270 i think for giving a breakthrough knowledge of something very useful and later i found out that it was the witness thing that he learnt from others and started asking for money for himself.


He has no problem being a turncoat if he doesn't get his way. I'm shocked that Jerry is even in the top 50 witnesses.

Put your vote on someone who can actually promote the platform.

I can not wait till he is gone

Just wait for the BULL RUN and then see the price of STEEM....It will be MOON. Even Astronauts cannot reach there to get STEEM.

That's the most hilarious meme and brings home the point.... :)

I hope he takes everybody that got down on their knees for him when he got here, too.
I didnt like him from the gitgo, but he lost me when he came to work in his underwear, the knobslobbers voted him to trending.
Every seller has a buyer.
Our image problem isnt because of the small account holders,...

No disagreements here.

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