The way I look at is this. If I'm going to go out and take some photos and publish them somewhere in any case, then why wouldn't I do it on the platform that pays anything at all for posting them. And sometimes when I post something better, the post is noticed by a curation project run by people with whom I have no personal connection whatsoever and the curators give me a big upvote.
If I hated to put together photography posts, I certainly wouldn't do it for $1.5. But since I enjoy it, I will happily take the coins.
Ditto. You summed up my thoughts about this perfectly.
I've been blogging since the days of bulletin boards (late 1980's) and in all that time I've never come across a platform that consistently rewards content creators like hive does.
The nearest thing that came close was tsu that @steevc mentioned but that went down in flames primarily because it had a single point of failure...it was centralized.
Hive was born from conflict by a group of people who have been around the block a few times and knew there was a better way to do things.
Like you. I enjoy taking photos and making videos which I put out into the world not for the money it might make but simply because I like doing it.
Complaints about rewards distribution is the oldest chestnut topic going. There will always be someone who would like more rewards but for what?
Equating posting to an hourly rate is quite frankly bonkers. We are not inventing a longer lasting lightbulb here or curing some dread disease.
We are having fun and if that process happens to earn 'any' rewards. Then be grateful that people thought it was interesting enough to warrant an upvote.
Don't do it for the money. That mindset leads to misery. 😂👍🏼
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Well said. I have blogged for years too, but with a lot of it I got few responses. I do much better on Hive and it's not just about money. I don't take my rewards for granted, but then I have put a lot into this platform. I want to see more people get the benefits, but it's not a 'magic money tree'. I'm interested to see how it can scale up.
Hive is an amazing concept to begin with and much improved since we forked off from the other place.
The simple fact that rewards are available is incredible considering that we don't generally have ads running all over the place.
It is quite remarkable.
Scaling it up will be interesting to see how it evolves. Rewards will have to be more widely dispersed I would imagine? Plus as the rewards get dispersed the value of the token would increase as they become more scarce and sought after?
Let's try this !BEER thing again 😂👍🏼
That is a good attitude. Would you create a Hive post and share it on other social media to reach a wider audience? I think peakd is actually pretty good for presenting photos. The big curation projects do have a lot of rewards to share around, but I do feel they have too much influence. I know people can get paid for delegating to them, but it concentrates the rewards on less post. There are lots of voting trails that may reach a wider audience.
!BEER
I have shared my posts on Twitter on a few occasion but I very few followers.
Yeah, too many delegations to big curation projects is a bit of a problem because not too many people have time to consume an awful lot of content.
For a better distribution of votes, I think it would be useful to have the front ends develop better algorithmic feeds with notifications to motivate us to spend more time on them. When you don't have to go looking for posts interesting to you, you also more likely to upvote them.
Content discovery is still lacking on Hive. That is one reason I do #FollowFriday posts. We can each do our bit to help with that.
Should I share posts more on Facebook and such to make people aware of Hive? Not really been doing that, but guess it's a good idea.
Is a very good idea ;)
Any promotion of Hive on other social media helps :)
Check out POSH token on Hive.
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I wonder if POSH will extend to Mastodon as some people are leaving Twitter lately.
It's entirely up to you. Do you think some of your Facebook followers would be interested in Hive? They might at least like to see your videos.
That's how I plant seeds to take down Twitter using hiveposh.com - I don't get much of the $POSH rewards but I was banned by Twitter for calling someone a boob... All my account followers and accounts I followed for curated news - gone. So I made a new account - use a cleared out cache on a diff computer and guerilla market this place. It's just the right thing to do. I never expect to make money here.
I've managed not to get banned there, but it's turning to shit anyway. I have to focus my energies where I get the most benefit for my time, and it's not just about money.
Yes. I am a big fan of going to places where I can get a real gage on crypto (amongst other interests) and not fluff, ads, or people trying to farm like they do over at reddit if they have tokenized karma. Plus all those places you can't speak about relevant crypto and decentralization subjects without some moderator deleting your post. I actually returned to Hive after being busy with Web 2 social promotion for @devcoin project. It's cool that you can earn here but I don't hold my breath. It's a good place to get read conversation by comparison. By comparison to Web 2 giants, I feel much more positive here. I still am active on bitcointalk.org by the way. It's because its a place that is still tolerant toward a lot of actual on-topic project related subject matter if you're in the right topic. That's how awful Web 2 is for social forums - I'm hanging on a SMF board running software from 2006!
I'm amazed more crypto people don't come here to discuss it as you would think they would prefer a decentralised platform. I've heard people getting slammed for promoting crypto even on Mastodon. I don't get why some of the open source crowd are against it, but there are many scams that give it a bad name.
Look at the value of Splinterlands though. Think about the Metaverse, Web3, and terms like "flow" "seamless" "interoperable" and you'll understand making so place seem not worth your time and seem like the public doesn't have interest in leaving places with censorship even when they are making truthful points... it's all a game. I assure you Ubisoft Entrepreneur Labs taking in a project called Xaya that's connected to where I hail from in my journey - Splinterlands (Steemit is where it began - very clever), and Axie Infinity for 5 months during COVID from 5/2020 to 11/2020 - you will see why this place is being PURPOSELY held back. All I have to say is I know from a few different experiences in my life that there's things I used to believe from the media and "social media" - then there was negativity and everythings a lie - and then came back my Social Sciences and Psychoanalyzing where I remain neutral about something perplexing. I look at why one would not want to spend time here. I look at why one would have interests in bashing people on a censored centralized platform with risk of bans. I look at a lot of sides of it, and I might come up with a reason. Usually the first thing I can come up with on a place that I need not explain to you the value of, obviously, is that the place is special - and there are people of influence and their financiers testing you to see where you prefer to spend your time. There's marketing and human research going on too. "Is there enough money people can make here to lure them away from using our echo chamber where we neg places like Hive or do we even need to because its pretty obvious that indirectly reporting crypto bs stories and fake news and constantly having fights and feuds we sort of drown out Hive and other places. My reason I'm back is the same reason I ended up her with @devcoin. I think about social motivations of people on both sides of the issue, and then reflect and try to make a decision. If I come back obviously it means I re-evaluated and re-confirmed my belief that this is a valuable place and we are still living in tested times.
Btw, back to the gaming I mentioned: https://www.playtoearn.online/2020/06/11/ubisoft-invites-xaya-splinterlands-and-axie-infinity/
And since Ubisoft was one of the few Google "Stadia" Cloud gaming developers and publishers that announced (but not specifically) a plan to transition people's accounts, items, and games to somewhere but not specifically where I ask you why they are having to do so in the first place? Google is shutting down its servers for gaming and accounts - showing that sure clouds rock, but they aren't serverless blockchain DLT with smart contracts and engines to run dApps (games). ;)
https://support.google.com/stadia/answer/12790109#zippy=%2Cq-what-about-my-game-progress-can-i-take-my-game-progress-to-another-platform
Ubisoft's moves are obvious.
That's not the one reason Hive is a valuable place worth keeping down for the meantime by someone with motives. It's just another reflection of why a place like Ubisoft thinks it's special. That Twitter account has 9.4 M followers. They have social pull to bring the masses.
I'm not a big gamer, but I've been on various social platforms that got shut down. I'm hoping blockchain will persist. We survived the Justin Sun episode. Splinterlands have proven that games can work here and seem to be expanding. That gives me hope. These are interesting times as the Twitter situation has people looking for alternatives.
Lol , great way to take an exit .
If everyone has this mindset then Hive promotion won't be difficult . We have to see earnings here on Hive as a bonus .
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I'm only 34 but I remember Seinfeld well enough to exit on a high note!
Honestly I was wasting time on Twitter too. I was aggregating social opinion in the space to make my own psychoanalysis of it. Something a Social Sciences and research analyst does for fun when he's on his medicine. But I realized I had been missing out on Hive since most of my dev team left since 2020 @devcoin @devtome ... When I came back I realized even though there are people here to earn it was nothing like Reddit when the r/Cryptocurrency sub introduced "Reddit Moons" ERC-20 tokens for the Karma you tallied monthly. That was a shit show. It was also a place where you were only moderated for actually talking about cryptocurrency instead of just making 3 word replies for upvotes to "Moon Farm"... It's not where the world is heading - its a game that makes people realize what they like after making them subjects of many different games from behind the safety of their Web2 administrative walled gardens. Even bitcointalk.org is a far less censored place than any of these Web2 trying to transition to Web3 platforms. It's all a game. This place is one I ended up on for many reasons.
I also share almost every photopost on Twitter. Unfortunately, I don't have the reach there to make a significant impact.
I have a fair few Twitter followers, but many of them are on Hive anyway and I am disinclined to use it lately. I've done loads of tweets about Hive, so anyone who would see them will know about it anyway.
We need some way of decentralized voting ? :)
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That's called using your own stake. If you delegate to a big account your are centralising it and I think that can be detrimental.
Oh damn you are right lol .
I usually upvote myself . I used to run an engagement project though which used to upvote comments ( used a bot to calculate quality of comments ) .
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I never upvote myself these days, but small accounts who don't make much can do it. I want to use my votes to support others and I do okay anyway.
Oh no no , I think I didn't frame that sentence properly lol . I meant to say , I don't use vote trial or delegate to other projects for curation . I usually vote other posts/comments myself .
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Ah, I misread it :) Manual voting is the ideal, but not everyone has the time to do it. I know some people follow the trail I made for @tenkminnows as that supports small accounts.
I love this perspective
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BEERKING.Makes a lot of sense . The one aspect of Hive is , it can monetize any activity .
We have seen tokens for running / walking / gaming / photos etc . So I do agree with you .
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