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RE: I'm Done Posting On Hive

in #jerrybanfield2 years ago

It looks like he just copy/pastes. Most of the posts are links to youtube or twitch. My opinion is that even though he's getting downvoted, he should just do 0 payout posts. That way, at least people are still coming from here to his content somewhere else. Now he will lose all those people.

I think it is not good to drive people away from Hive like this. Hive should want to grow, but at the same time people should not despair just because they're not getting payouts. You can still monetize your content in other ways.

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If I got a dollar for every time some pseudo-influencer came here threatening to quit unless they get their way all while attempting to disrupt something like the token value, I wouldn't be rich, but at least I'd be getting paid to listen to this bullshit.

When folks threaten to quit, the best thing to do is hold the door open for them. He's not being driven off. He's choosing to leave in dramatic fashion. It's nothing new. Could just as easily make the attempt to resolve their own personal issues. The decentralized nature of the platform affords everyone that opportunity. Most don't know what to do with that much freedom. 41000 followers unwilling or uninterested in countering one or two downvotes sheds far more light on his own personal problems. His choices obviously led him here to this point. Following the same pattern, he chooses to blame the platform rather than his approach. That's the easy out and 100% his own choice.

I was just looking at his posts, and there's a majority of upvotes.
I'll admit, I'm somewhat ignorant when it comes to Hive's structure & I find it to be much more complex than any other social site I've used with the proposals, witnesses, etc.

Do downvotes have a disproportionate effect or something?

Do downvotes have a disproportionate effect or something?

No. Stake based; Hive Power (HP). More HP equates to more 'say' in where rewards go. The reward pool is shared with everyone and maintained by stakeholders. Even if you have 1HP in your account, you are a stakeholder, with minimum impact. And with the combination of voting power (VP) and voting mana (VM) one can hand out far more effective upvotes than downvotes.

With this scenario seen above (the post), I didn't feel it was necessary to 'reward' that behavior. With my stake currently, my votes in either direction at full VP are worth roughly $1.70. If others felt the behavior seen above should be rewarded, they can counter that downvote of mine, easily. More of them, than me.

That makes sense, but then again I must ask why he feels so negatively affected by relatively low downvote ratio?
Perhaps they are from high stake users?

I must ask why he feels so negatively affected

I can't speak for him; I have no clue. I do know he has a bad reputation. Reputation matters.

Downvotes aren't the end of the world. Some people do overreact. I think he was doing fine until he made a proposal which was firmly rejected, so he did a complete 180 and went from loving it to hating it with the flip of a switch, possibly proving his intentions were not pure and authentic to begin with, but I don't know.

At the end of the day, people are free to come and go and make any decisions they want. So he did. As did I.

High stake members have the most to lose, correct? And here this guy is attempting to take from everyone by attempting to lure people into dumping. Yet he feels downvoting him is unfair? The things that make you go HMMMM...

Yeah I thought it was interesting that he was clearly pleading for sell offs as if looking out for everyone else's interests.

It feels like there's some personal motivations, but I don't know him either so.

But thanks for the clarifications.

Generally speaking, there are far more success stories that deserve attention and could be celebrated, but drama sells, and boasting about success is the easiest way to fail, yet there is still room to be proud of one's accomplishments. It's all in the delivery.

Every now and again someone has a meltdown. To give him some credit I think it would be fair to say this was an emotionally charged kneejerk reaction; not much thought put in to it. These things happen; people gonna people.

Of course, once bridge is burned, the only one who can rebuild it is the arsonist. Boils down to choices. This code and all the technical aspects of the platform can only go so far. I briefly touched on these situations within this post. There's a part about owning your platform and people struggling with that concept. When there's a problem, people are programmed to blame something else, but that doesn't quite work in a decentralized arena.

Amen to that, I totally agree with everything you said sir.
Haha, good thing I read the comments because his post had be buffled.
I consider myself a newbie here on hive but I am loving it here. the interactions are great but because I did my part as well. You can't expect people to go to all your posts when you don't even inter-act with theirs. How will someone know you if you don't even bother to talk to them and be friends with them.

I just look at hive as my own neighborhood. In order for my neighbors to know me and be friends with me, I must first take the initiative for them to know who I am and that I exist.😄😉

Oh by the way, I am just expressing my own thoughts as a newbie here on how to be accepted and my posts be noticed. I wish to thank you kind sir @jerrybanfield for upvoting on my late post which got me to his profile so I can thank him personally. Meant a lot sir.
Grateful for you dropping by my humble post.🥰😍

In other words... work for Hive and do it for free? That's what I keep hearing. Why would anyone in their right minds decide to do this when they could put their valuable time attention (and influence) elsewhere? Places that actually respect and are deserving of the content that's been published. This isn't a winning formula... especially when the blockchain is competing with other viable options. But hey... what do I know. That's just my opinion right?

One this is sure...

Jerry mentioned the downvote... and I think that's a string worth pulling.

https://www.vybrainium.com/

That's a Hive based platform that doesn't have downvotes with their own token. It's been around for quite awhile. People are also free to make their own, on Hive. That option has been made available, for a long time, and allows members to shape their Hive experience as they see fit, while keeping something like their list of followers intact, affording them the ability to leverage the entire Hive ecosystem in their favor. There are several tokenized communities on Hive.

Why is it, whenever Blurt people come here to trash on Hive, those kind of details are suspiciously left out?

If someone goes to Blurt for the sole purpose of avoiding downvotes, they have to start from scratch. No following and a very small market to tap into.

Hive has games, more games on the way, NFT platforms, all kinds of apps, or dapps. New projects on the way, constantly.

WTF man?

I hope you realize majority of members here know this stuff. https://hive.io/eco

All those people, all that work, and all those projects, are what you're shitting on when you guys come here to be assholes posing as saviors, hoping to attract interest in Blurt, which is a cesspool of despair nowadays because of your piss poor, misguided, hateful attitudes.

Believe me... there are good reasons to leave Hive and start over. I for one am excited to do this! I choose to bring my best ideas to Blurt. Why is that? Because I don't believe that Hive deserves them. So! Yes! I relish the opportunity to start over on Blurt. These are exciting times and I believe that a lot of good is going to come from our efforts over there. 🙂

Then go there and do that. Actions speak louder than words and so far there's been no action from you guys, and your words mean nothing.