I am in favor of rewarding all posts including those of holidays, our gardens and kids of other members or the music they make. As for the tag please listen to silversaver who described twice how to ensure the posts are in the right community. (Or we must decide to use tag again but this is not the same as community in hive... i can nexplain once more if required as welshie apparantly also does not use this method) . I post in two communities without using tags - I select the community and make a post in it.
I think I have to say no to this as I think we all are a family together and support each other. We all love our precious Metals and most of us post about it as often as we can, but we also post other things that we are passionate about and I understand that a sublimesunday post about nature isn't right post to make in silvergoldstackers community hive... But we should still be able to use the silvergoldstackers tag? We are members and I use that tag and thealliance in all my posts as I am a proud member.
I still haven't got this all clear in my head but as I understand it... We only get votes on our silver posts and not on our other ones?
Right... I read bugged's post and the comments there and this post and the comments here and if I got it right basically any member who's has delegated to the community who's not blogging about silver will not be getting a vote from the @ssg-community.
Let me just begin by saying. I disappeared and didn't blog for ages while I was pregnant but I kept my delegation in for the community to use without any thought to my ROI because I simply wanted to support the community. I came back because of hive and didn't hesitate to come back because I thought SSG would have my back.
Current climate and everything considered I simply don't have the cash to buy silver just so I can post. I realise there's other ways to post about stacking other than buying but I'm more of an enthusiastic enthusiast rather than a hard core collector and do not have the knowledge to post anything else aside from recent purchases. 🤷🏻♀️
I, like engine, post random shit. And I do actually depend on the SSG community upvote. Sometimes I post every day, sometimes I don't, most of the time not SSG related.
If SSG stops voting the way it does now I will most probably remove my delegation or significantly decrease my delegation.
No I reject this proposal for change. I was so happy to be part of this stacking family. Yes I post about my precious metals....I have been stacking longer than most members here have been on this Earth. I also have other post, so do most members, and I believe we need to support each other with comments AND upvotes. Not a backhanded slap for someone for posting on another interest.
POINT number one:
No one took my request for a vote about comments on our members post to meet any of the "new rules", this is not acceptable!
POINT number two : A three day post and vote for a change, this is not acceptable! Most members will not see this vote due to the short term timeline of this post.
Of we do this way, I'll probably make a super sweet post about camping 🏕, treasure hunting, nature, etc... and a quick shitpost with a picture of a round. I think it may become a shitpost tag.
I have changed my vote to no because I also run a community and one of the requirements is simply delegation. We like it when people use the tag, but also do not segregate those that don't and it has never been a requirement to get the community vote. @bearone and I may not be besties, but we're in the same boat on this.
Edit: I want to stress the segregation. I see some comments about only using the front-end and community community community. Community is strongest when it is together, not divided by a bunch of other things like tags, tokens and front-ends. We took a major hit with the Steem/Hive separation in holding together across the board. This is one of my oldest and most loved communities because the only parameters were don't abuse the tag, post about precious metals sometimes and delegate. Once a week or so, I browse members' posts and have an onslaught of voting. I donate when and where I can and participate in raffles. I love that you've never judged what I post and always supported me because I followed the guidelines set. It is literally the oldest delegation I have in place going back over 2 years ago. I honestly don't use other front-ends because of that division I mentioned. I like to be able to find it all in one place and feel the competitive nature has further separated the Hive community with these 'hives'. Despite what some people claim, we are all here on Hive because of the return we get. Anyone that disputes that fact is full of horse shit. Makes me itchy.
I VOTE NO!!!! Back when Hive came to be, we all had such trouble trying to find one another. I can remember many conversations with a couple of folks about how hard it was and did any of us have any suggestions. We were all constantly looking everywhere without any results! Then one day, we used the silvergoldstackers tag on a non metals post, and bang, everyone found us! Now the delegation that folks have should qualify them for a vote no matter what their post is about. Taking the delegation and holding it back because they post on a non metals topic is in essence taking what is truly, their due. They delegated it; the vote belongs to them. How can you justify withholding that vote? Anyone worth their weight knows that if you bring in new management, you don't make a bunch of changes right off the bat. That's immaturity. Kill the bot if you must do something.
I believe this is a strong, community of silver-gold enthusiasts, we all come together, contribute and engage in different ways (group buys, silver round giveaways, posting about our collection or donating to the raffles). We love our precious metals. I agree the tag #silvergoldstacker should be used for precious metal related posts. and i think there was an idea of #ssglife tag that was floated for other posts by members. But the bot should continue as is to vote on all posts of the community. I've been delegating to the bot for the 10 months or so that I've not been posting (initially 2.5k and reduced to 1k hp). I wasn't looking at returns but just a way to support my precious community.
I wish these two proposals were separated rather than combined. I am in complete favor of the second proposal for vote accrual.
The first proposal just seems draconian to me. We have good members within the Community who may not post on precious metals BUT sure do add value with comments. The first proposal essentially says that unless you post on precious metals you will not receive the benefits of the Community bot. Secondly, the vote will follow the # and not the member of the community which is a HUGE change. And as an added bonus for improper # usage there will be penalties. In the past I believe that we simply culled the roster when we thought that there were members who were misusing the Community.
It is apparent to me, that many members use the #silvergoldstackers for off topic posting BECAUSE that is the only way to let everyone in the Community to see their post, which is not really a bad thing and certainly not such an extreme violation. Of course IF everyone in the Community FOLLOWED all the members I guess there would not be anyone who felt it necessary to use #silvergoldstackers, since their posts would be in the Friends section. I think that this portion be discussed with greater deliberation.
I am in favor of rewarding all posts including those of holidays, our gardens and kids of other members or the music they make. As for the tag please listen to silversaver who described twice how to ensure the posts are in the right community. (Or we must decide to use tag again but this is not the same as community in hive... i can nexplain once more if required as welshie apparantly also does not use this method) . I post in two communities without using tags - I select the community and make a post in it.
I think I have to say no to this as I think we all are a family together and support each other. We all love our precious Metals and most of us post about it as often as we can, but we also post other things that we are passionate about and I understand that a sublimesunday post about nature isn't right post to make in silvergoldstackers community hive... But we should still be able to use the silvergoldstackers tag? We are members and I use that tag and thealliance in all my posts as I am a proud member.
I still haven't got this all clear in my head but as I understand it... We only get votes on our silver posts and not on our other ones?
Right... I read bugged's post and the comments there and this post and the comments here and if I got it right basically any member who's has delegated to the community who's not blogging about silver will not be getting a vote from the @ssg-community.
Let me just begin by saying. I disappeared and didn't blog for ages while I was pregnant but I kept my delegation in for the community to use without any thought to my ROI because I simply wanted to support the community. I came back because of hive and didn't hesitate to come back because I thought SSG would have my back.
Current climate and everything considered I simply don't have the cash to buy silver just so I can post. I realise there's other ways to post about stacking other than buying but I'm more of an enthusiastic enthusiast rather than a hard core collector and do not have the knowledge to post anything else aside from recent purchases. 🤷🏻♀️
I, like engine, post random shit. And I do actually depend on the SSG community upvote. Sometimes I post every day, sometimes I don't, most of the time not SSG related.
If SSG stops voting the way it does now I will most probably remove my delegation or significantly decrease my delegation.
No I reject this proposal for change. I was so happy to be part of this stacking family. Yes I post about my precious metals....I have been stacking longer than most members here have been on this Earth. I also have other post, so do most members, and I believe we need to support each other with comments AND upvotes. Not a backhanded slap for someone for posting on another interest.
POINT number one:
No one took my request for a vote about comments on our members post to meet any of the "new rules", this is not acceptable!
POINT number two : A three day post and vote for a change, this is not acceptable! Most members will not see this vote due to the short term timeline of this post.
Keep it as, or remove the bot!
100% buddy.
Have a good day my friend!!
Of we do this way, I'll probably make a super sweet post about camping 🏕, treasure hunting, nature, etc... and a quick shitpost with a picture of a round. I think it may become a shitpost tag.
Didn't think of it like that, but very true.
Good point. This is what is likely to happen.
I have changed my vote to no because I also run a community and one of the requirements is simply delegation. We like it when people use the tag, but also do not segregate those that don't and it has never been a requirement to get the community vote. @bearone and I may not be besties, but we're in the same boat on this.
Edit: I want to stress the segregation. I see some comments about only using the front-end and community community community. Community is strongest when it is together, not divided by a bunch of other things like tags, tokens and front-ends. We took a major hit with the Steem/Hive separation in holding together across the board. This is one of my oldest and most loved communities because the only parameters were don't abuse the tag, post about precious metals sometimes and delegate. Once a week or so, I browse members' posts and have an onslaught of voting. I donate when and where I can and participate in raffles. I love that you've never judged what I post and always supported me because I followed the guidelines set. It is literally the oldest delegation I have in place going back over 2 years ago. I honestly don't use other front-ends because of that division I mentioned. I like to be able to find it all in one place and feel the competitive nature has further separated the Hive community with these 'hives'. Despite what some people claim, we are all here on Hive because of the return we get. Anyone that disputes that fact is full of horse shit. Makes me itchy.
@enginewitty you know... i was totes feeling the segregation this morning when i thought about it more.
And that itchy comment... 💯
Ps. ☮✌🕊🤗
YES!!
Your edit is on-fucking-point @enginewitty!!
I VOTE NO!!!! Back when Hive came to be, we all had such trouble trying to find one another. I can remember many conversations with a couple of folks about how hard it was and did any of us have any suggestions. We were all constantly looking everywhere without any results! Then one day, we used the silvergoldstackers tag on a non metals post, and bang, everyone found us! Now the delegation that folks have should qualify them for a vote no matter what their post is about. Taking the delegation and holding it back because they post on a non metals topic is in essence taking what is truly, their due. They delegated it; the vote belongs to them. How can you justify withholding that vote? Anyone worth their weight knows that if you bring in new management, you don't make a bunch of changes right off the bat. That's immaturity. Kill the bot if you must do something.
I will vote no to proposal #1, but would support proposal #2.
I believe this is a strong, community of silver-gold enthusiasts, we all come together, contribute and engage in different ways (group buys, silver round giveaways, posting about our collection or donating to the raffles). We love our precious metals. I agree the tag #silvergoldstacker should be used for precious metal related posts. and i think there was an idea of #ssglife tag that was floated for other posts by members. But the bot should continue as is to vote on all posts of the community. I've been delegating to the bot for the 10 months or so that I've not been posting (initially 2.5k and reduced to 1k hp). I wasn't looking at returns but just a way to support my precious community.
I wish these two proposals were separated rather than combined. I am in complete favor of the second proposal for vote accrual.
The first proposal just seems draconian to me. We have good members within the Community who may not post on precious metals BUT sure do add value with comments. The first proposal essentially says that unless you post on precious metals you will not receive the benefits of the Community bot. Secondly, the vote will follow the # and not the member of the community which is a HUGE change. And as an added bonus for improper # usage there will be penalties. In the past I believe that we simply culled the roster when we thought that there were members who were misusing the Community.
It is apparent to me, that many members use the #silvergoldstackers for off topic posting BECAUSE that is the only way to let everyone in the Community to see their post, which is not really a bad thing and certainly not such an extreme violation. Of course IF everyone in the Community FOLLOWED all the members I guess there would not be anyone who felt it necessary to use #silvergoldstackers, since their posts would be in the Friends section. I think that this portion be discussed with greater deliberation.