I'm a high school teacher (Spanish, Business Spanish, Medical Spanish) that introduced his class to cryptocurrency last year.
My students learn things and experience things.
We're not all brainwashers.
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I'm a high school teacher (Spanish, Business Spanish, Medical Spanish) that introduced his class to cryptocurrency last year.
My students learn things and experience things.
We're not all brainwashers.
Teach us on here instead. My children are going to skip high school. I wasted four years of my life in high school, and I would have been better off going straight to college. Heck, many of the classes you have to take over anyway.
I showed my students Steemit and the power contained therein. Hopefully some of them have joined.
@nepd A syllabus tells you how to get an "A", a good teacher helps you develops the skills to "kick A"!
I hope they do too! It's a new world. Curiosity and effort are all that is needed to succeed.
I agree with all of you - some teachers still spoon feed and some teachers teach kids to think beyond the books - I have this speech almost every day - you do not only have to do what I tell you to do you can figure out your own research and work. Just a pity we still have parents with the mentality of kids must have a rigid structure and I must talk for 30 min and kids will just study what are in their books bla bla bla - most of the time we have problem parents and inquisitive kids
@finnian I can appreciate your experience, and the thoughts behind what you have shared. I was very involved, from the business club to music. The friendships and experiences I had couldn't have been replicated elsewhere, and I am glad I created those opportunities for myself.
That being said, I should have gone with my buddy to do every other day's school at the local community college, saving the other day for the fun stuff. If you do all the lower level classes for an engineering degree, you will have enough literacy and mathematics to supplement whatever it is you choose to pursue.
The other undervalued education today is vocational school. The economic freedom that is achieved early on my be capped by the lack of an advanced degree, but if you are an enterprising person, you can use what you have learned and your innate skills to be successful. The key is to find your passion(s), and learn everything you can to be successful in that.
I can't go back in time for myself, but I will make my own children aware of the opportunity that exists. That way, hopefully, they can avoid the feeling of "wasted years."
You didn't need to go to school to meet friends and do social things though. My wife is always saying that the kids have to go to government schools to learn "social skills." No, no they don't. That's learning crowd and conformity skills instead. ;-)
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I agree finnian - social skills can be learned in many places
Thanks! I worry about the other things school teaches way more than what the kids might not learn by missing it.
For example one of my middle son's teachers a year ago told him, "It's not right for one person to be more successful than another."
Bwah?! Don't be teaching that garbage to my child, communist! haha
Whaaaaat? Ok that is just plain weird
But I say again , there are sure some problem parents out there that are not following the open minded approach I am trying to teach my kids - the textbook said this and this and there is no room for we can actually figure out a few things for ourselves and questions can maybe have more than one answer
@finnian it would have been better if cryptocurrency lectures be introduced into the educational system,but instead they keep introducing more scams called subjects....lol
I'd be happy if they just taught economics, but they don't... on purpose of course.
eish then I would be without a job hahahaaha - but I see your point - and yes many subjects I really also do not know what the function is - but on the other hand, nothing is stopping our kids to start thinking for themselves and investigating and throw away the eye patches
Jeff's advice on dropping out from school is a huge claims, and i can see his point. But in my opinion, there's still things u need to learn and experience from school. You'll still need the basics, like language and a bit of this and that, calculation and stuff. Or else it would still be a big trouble for the parents to teach from scratch. Because not all the ppl are free from work or financial freedom. My point is, parents play an important role to guide your children to the right path. Constant communications and being an up-to-date parents so that the kids would look up to you, and not looking at you like you're some out-dated old folks who would just yelling at them for not doing this and that.
There are other ways to learn Spanish than forcing kids to do it and forcing them into 12 years of indoctrination camps to do their pledge of allegiance. I learned Spanish in bed in Mexico. You should teach those who want to learn outside of skool where kids are held hostage.
That's a very narrow view of things. Not all schools are like the ones you've experienced.
Not all students need high school, but it helps many get to where THEY want to be... not where you think they should be.
I can feel the urge of jeff's trying to get the mass out from the brainwash shit he mention about. But at the same time, just like what @nepd said, not all students need high school, but it definitely helped a lot to get them where they wanted to be. Maybe I've had an really awesome time back in uni and highschool, i do see some of those who didn't really enjoyed it back then. MY grade wasn't grade, and later i found out what i've learnt so far, mostly were modified, especially history of my country - which is fucked up, but its ok, at least i know the truth now and i'll guide my children to the right path. But I think things like MATH and Language, let them learn from school should be fine. My point is that, we TAKE the good things from school, dump the bad ones, just like in life, we do that constantly dont we? :D
No child needs schooling, private or government. You can tutor them, they can learn on their own, etc. There are many options. It at least should not be compulsory. I wonder why it is? Hmmm
not only that. why should someone have to go to the other classes all day just to learn from one teacher who things outside of the marxist/keynsian box for one hour. Then a new semester begins with a new crew of gulag managers serving up remedial education to Western students who are falling behind in global standardized test scores against students from countries where the government does not run the k-12 system. So the argument that some teachers are actually teaching critical thinking and real skills is undermined by the fact that the institutionalized garbage that students are being inoculated with daily has effectively dumbed them down to the point to where they are ridiculed if they promote or suggest any idea which does not sync with the party line. Public education is little more than state religion.
Duolingo is so DAMN good. I took some in high school for 3 years (the AP classes) and the way they structured it made me learn only BASICs. I'm almost fluent after 6 months on duolingo, 2 Escalofrios (goosebumps) books, Octonauts, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Yugioh in spanish. WAY better way to learn.
Aren't you Canadian? But yeah agreed, teaching languages in schools is a waste of time. No one learns anything there. A month living in a country will be enough to learn a language.
The brainwashing is institutionalized in the system through the required textbooks and curriculum. I'm sure your class is interesting but unfortunately 12 years of gov induced psychosis is too much weight for any one teacher to counterbalance. At some point students have been so effectively brainwashed from global warming being plugged in their science books to a complete lack of information about how the money system operates, even showering them with evidence will only create sparks of enlightenment in only the brightest students. A large number of students in high school are more or less prisoners forced into indoctrination in a marxist style institution and it is difficult for one teacher to contradict the propaganda on every point. Nevertheless, introducing critical thinking and raising doubts about many of their long held indoctrinated beliefs may be enough to get them investigating more. Unfortunately the brainwashing is institutionalized and a few lights in the tunnel is not enough to find the way out. The best way out is to drop out and get a GED then stop paying taxes in order defund this albatross that enslaves people mentally when they are young then financially when they enter the workforce.
Yes there are some teachers that changed my life 4th grade teacher Mrs Johnson #1 Teacher
I'm also a HS teacher and respect all my co-teachers but @jeffberwick do have a point. Yes @nepd not all teachers are brainwashers and some of us try to make our lessons more relevant. I am actually learning more about life and teaching by listening more to my students' backstories and finding out ways to make my lessons relevant to them.
Although it's been a few decades since I was in high-school, I believe you are the exception rather than the norm nepd. For many, including myself, we look back on our school years and wonder, why the hell didn't you teach us things we could use in our everyday life?
Instead of spending years studying calculus and trigonometry, why not teach people how to budget, save and invest? Why not teach kids how to garden or how to cope with depression and anxiety? Or even, how to think critically in order to assess the truthfulness of mainstream media? These are just a few examples of life skills everyone should be taught from a young age.
Now, you may argue that these skills are best taught by parents, but many parents either don't have the skills themselves, don't have the time to teach their kids or assume the education system will include these topics in their curriculum.
I'll leave this video from boyinaband to demonstrate the frustration students have with the current education system
We need more path breakers like you!
there are thousands of excellent teachers and awesome students all over the place. Not everyone needs high school, but it serves some very well.
@nepd The earliest forms of my negotiation and networking skills came from getting to know teachers, how they "tick", what limits I could push. While I wasn't the best student for most of my teachers, I had a good rapport with all of them.
Strangely enough, most of them saw what I was doing as a way of "taking initiative", though different than the usual "do all of the homework all of the time, pass the bubble sheet test and move up the grade".
Yes. Basic education is required (wherever we get it from) to help us 'design' what we want according to our own conscious choice. However, education of modern times ends up conditioning people into limits rather than liberating them.
In my opinion only 10% of students needs high school or collage. Everybody should be free to decide cos basically every kid hear from parents and teachers that they need to go to high school, they have to finish it etc.
BTW I have collage degree but if I would start over again I wouldnt go even to high school and that I will advice to my future kids.
Nice, that you do good job in education. Keep up good work its worthy and needed.
nepd I also feel some kids are just not made for sitting in a class and study "what the book says" and they make a great success of their lives - we still have this narrow mindedness of you did not go to a "normal" school so you cannot make a success
Keep up the good work
Good job. Can't believe this thread.
Super move
Alas, but you can not do without school. They teach not only physics and mathematics. They teach patience and skill to contact - with other students and teachers.
I agree that a good teacher is wonderful.
We are not all brainwashed. Final!!
None are more brainwashed than those who believe they were never brainwashed. I once heard a doctor say that in medical school, they teach you that half of the information is wrong, they just don't know which half.
Youtube and udemy are the new school. Free or pay a small fee = way cheaper, practical, and efficient. Why not travel the world while you learn? The truth is TEACHERS have all the power and they're stuck in an inefficient system. Look at jordan peterson. Making 30k a month posting his lectures on youtube!
This! ☝️
Thank your for saying something out loud here that I was angrily thinking reading in my head reading this post @nepd. I'm so tired of the over generalized "school sucks" narrative I see pushed sometimes. I don't discredit people having negative experiences in school. But, I generally do discredit those who assume that everyone has such experiences and characterizes all education as "brainwashing".
School taught me to think critically about life situations and carefully weigh every side of an issue, not make overgeneralized assumptions about things of which I am not an expert. And that's exactly what I've taught my students as well.
But - you will have to admit, that most of the successful entrepreneurs in our lifetimes - Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs - these are all people that have started their own businesses and have not gone down the traditional path of university/college/tertiary education that takes away 5 years of their lives.
I respect teachers and give them applause for so much of the patience they have to go through every day with this generation.
While students do learn and experience through tertiary education, they are not readily practiceable for life nor do they have the financial structures ready to be able to contribute something useful and productive to the world. Just my 0.01 steem worth 😊