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What's your take on plagiarism or fraud? Do you think it's existence, or the community's reluctance to police itself with prevent it from growing?
Topic from @scholaris.pob
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Thanks.
Good morning everyone, this is really a wonderful topic to talk about again @scholaris.pob and others as being doing great job to monitor plagiarism and fraud in the community.
Because if this are not in control it will definitely disourage users that as being spending much time to ensure the community grow to some extent is good we keep ringing it to our hearing that plagiarism and fraud should me control to keep the community safe
You are very correct
I know it won't be easy to go through all the content and comments in this community to make this community safe from plagarism.
Plagiarism.
Let us avoid it in this community in order not to get downvoted.
My question is how is the post which is being copied from somewhere else and pasted in this community how is it detected so quickly?
I think Plagiarism is a very big crime. It is actually taking credit for something you actually didn't work in any way for.
It is painful to see someone going through the stress of publishing an article only to have another take credit for it, that's unfair and downright painful.
I think Plagiarism is a type of fraud and obviously should be punishable.
I think the introduction of the downvotes as a way of curbing Plagiarism is a really nice idea. It's good to see that there's actually a system in place to monitor plagerised posts and deal heavily with them.
I think nothing can entirely stop plagerism because it is the normal human nature and it'll continue to happen no matter how much we fight it but the good thing about fighting it is that it becomes reduced to a very large extent and that's the aim. we'll get to a point where we'll not hardly see plagerised posts on this platform but it doesn't mean it'll end entirely.
Another thing is most authors need to learn to give credit for whatever content they borrow, be it images or quotes and so on.
Let's just work together to ensure that the Hive is a better place, there's no room for criminality.
Good morning
Nothing is impossible.
And nobody would like to do anything that will harm himself.
If there is any form of plagarism in this community it is mostly caused by new members and that's because most of them are ignorance of plagarism in this community. But for old members who have known it punishment for it don't even dare to do it
That's right. It's a punishable crime.
I think many people have talk d about it in their posts and as such, active engager should have spotted it and taken note of it.
Those who refuse to heed to instructions would fall victims.
It's not punished enough. Very few people act against it.
Few people act against it and those who don't heed would definitely fall victim in one way or the other.
Good morning all and it is good to be here once more, let me give it a quick one by saying the topic is just the best to talk about this morning,but I still want to say of recent the talk of plagrism as gone down due to the fact that users are now getting it right a little bit,but of all am giving it to @scholaris.pob for bringing back our attention to that, at least it will still shade the mind of those that are still in that side to desist from it , cause it won't do them any good.
Scholaris is one of the people who take their time to prevent plagarism in this community.
Yeah I hardly see any copied content in this community and that's because there are many wise people who are wise enough to create their own quality content.
It isn't easy to find copied content. You have to look all the time. Perhaps that's one of the reasons why people don't actively do it.
Also, I feel it kills the vibe. People want to interact, create, engage, and make money. If you spend enough time screening articles, creating content isn't really something you're motivated to do.
I agree with you
Not that alone sir And because any form of plagiarism is easily detected and the person who Plagiarise is disciplined maybe by hive watchers and being downvoted by sperminator
That is good from you I believe new user should also be aware of this but I believe the rate of plagiarism and fraud as reduce a bit
Definitely it as and I want to say users are beginning to know the importance of what it is to come out with a good content of thier own too and I want to say that is the joy of it now and with that the community to will experience alot of good write up as always
People barely speak about plagiarism. If talks about plagiarism goes down, it's because people get tired of writing about it. The act is quite alive.
That's true I self did not know about this is just that thank God I don't cheat.
This should be talked about for new members who are just joining this community who don't know anything about plagarism in this community
I hope we can ease the method of keeping people informed in the future. If we can get either a new front end or this one upgraded, perhaps we can link messages to be permanently available to the group. This way we wouldn't have to keep writing about things that should always be available.
You are right.
And that's from now on, I will take the issue of plagarism personally by writing content about it and also join and help @scholaris.pob to catch those who Plagiarise in this community
Plagiarism is bad and should be punishable even though some people still don't understand what it means to plagiarise, it's not just about copying someone's work, fraud is the worst of it..
I have seen situations where someone drops same content with different heading, some open multiple accounts and reply themselves to gain engagement rewards when @amr008 engagement program was still on and many others I can't mention...
All thanks to @scholaris.pob for always watching and punishing violators immediately, I was punished by him too🤣🤣🤣..
He made me know that even if I used someone's statement, I should acknowledge the person, and plagiarism is not just when you copy someone full work...
It's existence will surely prevent the community from growing well if measures are not effectively put in place,
proofofbrain won't be a place for the knowledgeable but for just anybody..
happy new week
There is also an issue of some people involving in the practice without even realising it, I think any one bringing in new users should try as much as possible to enlighten them on what plagiarism is all about and why not to involve in it.
I could still remember when my friend was introducing hive to me, how he will continue to tell me never to copy one's work for no reason without attributing it to them. That if I get caught i could lose my account.
And that warning keeps on guiding me up till this moment.
So each and every one of us has a rule to play in cubing the ugly trend.
You are very lucky that you are invited by someone like that who has warned you about all of this.
This should be a very important task for all of us who invite more people in telling them about plagiarism
Yeah, I guess I was lucky, before I joined the hive I knew very little about it.
And we all need to do our part in educating our invitees .
Yes. We all have a part to play.
Oh... You fell victim. Well at least you learnt from your mistake.
You are right @rapha-el7
Since when amr008 has stopped engagement program, there is decrease in fake engagement and that make sense
Greetings from this side
What's a great question from @scholaris.pob that I should said the great topic to talk about and commend you guysfor the great job doing by monitoring this community with spaminator and plagiarism because if not be all this some people could have be copy and paste on this community for them to make more money and spoil the community for those who build it for future purposes. Thanks for this topic
Greetings to everyone!
Plagiarism surly do exist on the hive, and is good that we are talking about this topic, I think this can forward reduce the rate at which people practice it.
I also think that, the community police, is a great way of reducing it, just imagine a hive without the hive watchers, by now even those playing by the rules will be so discourage and might stop posting on the hive.
My humble appeal to my fellow hive users is that, we should always try and be honest in our dealings here, is not that hard to produce our own original contents if we really put our mind to it.
Is hive watchers a bot or a real person because the rate at which it detect copied content do amaze me lot.
It will detect and even bring where the real content was created and reply you with it.
That's really amazing
I think some might be bots and some are real people, making sure hive is safe.
It exists everywhere. There are country-wide and even international standards against it.
Yes sir, sadly it dose. And thanks to people like you who dedicate their precious time in keeping the hive a safe place for all us.
A lot of their work is manually done. They do catch a lot of it, but it still seems like they scratch the surface.
Good to be here once again this morning and it sounds so good to have a topic like this to talk about,this isnone issue that as cause alot of confusion here on hive,yes confusion in the sense that many at a point are ignorant of this act,but get punished for it,while many are fully aware of it and refused to stop doing it,but with the look of things here right now it is good to have see the the rate of that as decreased due to he measure taken against the perpetrators
But it will still be much more better if another lesson is on as regards danger attached to such act,I also want to believe that lot of content as come just to curb such act,but I will still say that having content on it too is not too much as lot of people will be coming to the community and they might not really know the basis at all.
A very good one from the group this today and indeed am highly motivated to have come across a topic like this
This is a good comment. I have to downvote an article that has plagiarism. No exception.
I do NOT, nor will I, continuously downvote someone because of one act of plagiarism. If you plagiarize something, I'll act against it. I'll apply the DV and remove the POB rewards. Others will remove your HIVE rewards.
I'm not going to follow your work and downvote everything. That's excessive and I won't be a party to it. The point is to protect the community from that event. The person that gets downvoted also gets links to helpful articles that may aid them in not repeating the act in the future.
However, if the person keeps doing it, ignores warnings and DV's, then more needs to be done.
A very good one from the boss and I want to also ship in some takes that plagrism is an act that the community is not friendly about at all and just as @chincoculbert said downvoting as indeed helps in reducing such act of recent and I think @spermintaor too is another thing that as really helped in stopping those involved in such act from still doing that till date too.
Let me open our mind to the fact that plagiarism doesn't only comes in content alone,some users do that with comments too, which is very bad ,but it is good to see that the rate of this act is now going down.if am not mistaken I come across a content on #pobtalk maybe yesterday where @scholaris.pob himself was putting a users to order that his comment is a plagiarism one too.
But I sincerely think the best thing we should all do is learning to come up with what belongs to us even thou it is not getting the needed attention, one day it will that is my believe
Yes. I agree with you. Those people who their posts are being stolen from came up with the post themselves, so why can't you?
It not always as hard as we think.
Yes, it just takes a little hardwork and consistency
That's right
Sure 😌
Yes. That user is @profdanzy. He is also so inconsiderate that he won't respond directly to any comment I made. He replied to a post I wrote 2 months ago to apologize and he did it poorly. I couldn't understand anything. For the first time since I've been on Hive, I've not seen any other user more deserving of continuous downvotes. Not only did he ignore the warning and evidence, but he continued to plagiarize shortly after I downvoted him on more than one occasion.
He even plagiarized a part of an article I wrote when commenting on that very article.
The only person I'm aware of that curates for longer than I do is each day is @onealfa. He even curates for those he trusts into the night. And his curation days are as long as a normal workday if not longer. When he drops a comment it's worth something. He invests in that person and the comment they make. If that comment is fraudulent it looks bad on him and the rest of the community.
Curation takes a long time. And nothing is more frustrating than when you can't trust the words someone writes.
It's really not easy to create your personal content sir
I do try all my best not to plagarise and I have never done such foolish act before.
Downvoting is the best way to punish those who Plagiarise
You're not wrong. It's not easy to create personalized content. You have to work at it.
It's also not so easy to avoid plagiarism, but again, you have to work at it and give credit where credit is due.
Lol @houseofdavid no call me boss o, I just expressed my views.
Yeah you're right, some people just copy other people words and use it in the comments.
Yes... every author has to be original, people will end up accepting you for who you are
Plagiarism is a very serious crime on Hive and even in the outside world generally. It shows a level of irresponsibility and laziness, although plagiarism is kinda complex to understand by newbies. Some might be guilty without knowing, but when you have been warned and told about plagiarism and you persist on plagiarizing because you feel no one is watching? Then you need to be punished.
Plagiarism is bad no doubt. I heard about spaminator and how it functions. Basically it spots plagiarized posts right?
Plagiarism can occur because first, the author pays for the work. I heard this too is totally unacceptable. Your work should be genuine and straight from you, but some people get too tired with their daily lives and as such, they put the writing in a trusted person's hand.
Ultimately, one hidden reason for plagiarism is ignorance. They don't know the article is plagiarized, neither do they know how to check if it's a plagiarized article or not.
My take on plagiarism is that, it's bad. It's not supposed to happen. The chain has given liberty to people to write whatever they feel. You could say how your day went, what fun things you did, etc. You don't necessarily have to kill yourself with work load when you're tired. So I'd advice that one doesn't even think about it.
Thank you.
Oh, no. Spaminator is a bot that someone assigns to an account...for the long term. If your work is found to be fraudulent, you get constant downvotes from that bot. It takes a long time before you can get the bot off of you.
Yes. People have told me that. When they do, I try to point them in the right direction and show them documentation of the standards. Most of the time, it works unless you're @profdanzy. Thirty minutes later, he just plagiarizes another comment.
I think one of his reasons was that he didn't know it was wrong. He also stated in his introduction post that he is a university student of mathematics. I find it hard to believe a university would allow fraud let alone plagiarism.
A student of mathematics is a very occupied student. Always reading and solving and trying out new methods to tackle an issue, ways burning the night candle. I guess that's it, he probably has no time to sit and create a good content.
I can't really say anything about him but I know that if I'm caught with a plagiarized post, the shame alone would make me rethink my steps.
I don't have time either to create good content all the time. I don't copy/paste articles/comments and try to pass them off as my own.
It's actually a criminal act, it can make you lose everything you worked for on the platform.
And then some. Take, for instance, the Hive member PurePinay. She's got 11K followers. She does well on the platform. She hired ghostwriters to produce content and she never checked them before posting it and that content was plagiarized. There's more to follow on it, but the current results aren't good. Yeah, when something like that happens people are very quick, and justified, to lose trust.
You can get that trust back in some ways. The users searching through months of her posts is one way that it might work. Who is going to do it? The author (no)? The user reading her content (hell no). A most reasonable answer is to just not do it. Easier said than done, I think.
Easier said than done.
On a real note, as a curator, if I were to see a plagarized post over and over again, I'd lose interest and trust.
Rather I'd take my upvotes to people who really deserve them, so I guess you're right.
My question is
How can you get off sperminator off you
For someone who repented from plagarism but sperminator still follows.what can the person do to stop sperminator from following him or her
@scholaris.pob just said that the bot would watch you for some time before it gets off your back. So it would be there till it has fulfilled it's job.
Yeah, but it's not that easy. @pobtrader, you should talk to Hive Watchers about that issue. I'm not sure myself, but they would be the ones to tell you how it's done.
Oh that's it. I didn't know that the bot stays for a period of time, I always thought it'd always spot you out whenever you plagiarize a post.
Thanks for telling me this.
I strongly believe that copying and pasting content is totally fine provided the source of the content is clearly mentioned. The author of the content deserves the attention and applaud if their content is liked and copy-paste worthy.
Owning someone else's content wothout giving them due credit is bad and not acceptable. This is where the proof of brain concept comes into picture. Having a brain is not enough, it depends how you are using it. Uie of brain in the right way has got a lot of worth associated to it.
I think it is totally cool to highlight plagiarised content on the POB community given people come here with their thoughts and minds and write them down. If they are using plagiarised content and somebody is using their content and causing plagirism, it must be stopped. If such people dn't find it worthy dropping by next time, it's absolutely ok.
You are correct.
Plagiarism is only a part of the problem, but it's enough to keep me really busy. The true problem is that not enough people work to stem the tide, unfortunately.
I get bored when I read plagiarized work. It has not character. I sometimes leave a comment but mostly ignore it. I should be more hard on this garbage, but then what about bots posting stats? They get rewards too. They are original. Youtube is also filled with bots making posts. It's all original but it is not human. I can't stand it and would rather have a little originality than a ton of information. I am so tempted to follow your curation trail @sholaris.pob
Sincerely it sounds like waste of effort for the person that as done that and even to the readers self it is like wasting your time to read someone work without giving credit to the real source
It isn't a waste of effort if you're being rewarded for it. Also, plagiarized comments wouldn't normally be noticed with automated curation. I curate everything manually. So, when I see a comment that is suspicious, I tend to check it out. Automated curation doesn't check for it unless specifically designed to do so.
The worst ones are those doing coping and paste in the comment sections, so nauseating reading such comment.
Like why can't they just share their personal opinion and leave .
That's not the worst case I've seen. Though that alone is pretty bad.
When I read your user name I am sure you did not come here to copy and paste but to have fun^^
Copy and paste? No, there are no fun in that.
Definitely could come up with a better name for a coffee shop.
Coffee shop, now I think I'm lost.
But, this is the story behind my user name, after trying to create an account here on the hive with three times failed attempts, I will create and I won't be able to log in afterwards.
I got frustrated and told my friend to create it for me on his end, he asked me what user name will I like to use. With annoyance, I told him to chose any name he like.
Few minutes later he sent my account details to me and told me to try and login, then I saw Funshee, I was like what! For real?
But after my few days on the hive I realise that my real world brio to hive , I was this just uptight kind of person.
Each time I login into my account and see my user name it reminds me that a little sauce and fun won't hurt much.
Sorry, the story isn't that short after all.
No one can coffee and pasta your work because it has you in it. If they do it doesn't match. Only you are Funshee even if you didn't choose that name at all sister.
I care not whether an article or post is automated or human-made. There is a certain tolerance in the community for automated comments for legit reasons. Hivebuzz for example as it's meant to provide notification and people have the option to turn it on or off. If you decide to follow my curation trail, please let me know, lol. I will have to adjust my VP for a wider audience.
You have good perception to see an issue from both sides. I like some automated posts and there will be a point where it will be difficult to tell the difference between a human post and an AI post. Most of the time it is pretty obvious today and the bots are helpful.
As for the comment of following @scholaris.pob, I think you already vote for a wide variety. I am doing pretty well manual curating for most posts of people I know but the problem comes when I look through new posts and can't find anything. I feel like it is a waste of time to even look sometimes. Other times I find new friends. If I did follow then I'm not sure what percent to follow at anyway.
Oh, you don't need to follow my curation trail. There are plenty of people available that can you can vote behind like: @nonsowrites, @aiuna, @wiseagent, @hranhuk to mention just a few.
Yeah this is a very wonderful topic
Plagiarism is a very terrible thing to this community. People won't find this community interesting anymore if content is copied from one source and pasted here.
Then if that happened what is this community uniqueness?,reason why this community is unique it's because it requires your creativity and your mind
There will be a worst effect to this community if there is a high rate Plagiarism because this community won't be trusted.
This community is to test your brain and to know your mind.
It's all about creativity and not plagiarism
I had a question about this topic a long time agoplagiarism.
If coincidentally your content created is similar to that of another person content in other sites or other place, what would happen?
This has almost happened to me several times especially in #pobtalk and I do see it in this pob community also.
How will it be detected that the content isn't copied?
@precious008
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@iyiade
@vikbuddy
Just want to ask you a question for clarification mate,how do you pick your comment for the day and base on what mate,it seems not all user's that drop thier comments or engage are been picked,if I may ask on what basis do you pick this.
quality content + engagement rate, and those who are listed there are not the only one curated , both me and @onealfa.pob do curate those who are not even listed in that list.
base on the quality content and engagement i pick comments of the day.
#pobstreet is not for competition but for everyone but the more you engage the more you get reward.
some time people get reward of over 100pob upvote in a day here in pob street, so the more the engagement the more the reward.
*Note those names listed are comments of the day, others too get curated
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