I guess you now know that I am no longer a supporter of the Steem blockchain. I definitely moved to Hive and I am doing my best to promote Hive only.
Milking the Steem reward pool?
I could keep posting stuff on Steem, to milk the reward pool while things last, but this is something I have decided not to do. Mainly because I chose to focus my energy toward Hive, but also because I think it would be not be appreciated by those who still believe in Steem (even if I have to admit I don't care). Furthermore, in addition to being actively censored on Steem, I think my posts would have been cheerfully downvoted.
Milking the Hive Reward Pool?
In the same way, I do not like those who post the same things both on Steem and on Hive.
UPDATE: Let me correct the above sentence as I poorly expressed myself in my original post:
In the same way, I don't like those who obviously don't care about Hive and actively support Justin Sun, Steemit inc, and then come to Hive to milk the reward pool, thus depriving the Hive authors of better payout they deserve.
This time, as I'm on the other side, and I do care.
Unlike on Steem, censorship or retaliation is not an option for me. But it is out of the question that I support these posters profiteers or hypocrites (call them as you want).
Blacklisted!
Therefore, I created a blacklist that identifies any account that has published on Steem AND Hive in the past 7 days. Comments are not taken into account to build the list.
These accounts will no more receive any support from me, nor from any project that I'm part of.
Public and kept up to date
I also decided to make this blacklist accessible to everyone.
You can query the blacklist here: https://tools.hivechain.app/api/dualpost
Sample result you will receive:
["a0i","a428","aafeng","a-alice","aaliyahholt","aaronhong","abbak7","abcallen", ...]
* Account names are sorted alphabetically.
* The list is updated every hour.
As of writing, it contains 2461 entries.
### Licensing
The DualPost Blacklist is free to use for yourself or your Hive project. No fees will be charged for its use.
UPDATE 1
I removed this small sentence from my original post: "I might even start to downvote them if they persist in their behavior."
Not because I want to hide it (it would be useless as it is in the blockchain) but because the whole reactions were mainly focusing on this sentence and so many people felt threatened, although I used the conditional form.
The main goal of this post was simply about me saying I won't support "double-posters" and sharing the tool I use with those who want to use it too. Point.
This clearly demonstrates how misunderstood and badly perceived the downvote feature still is.
Why are downvotes still considered a punishment?
As a stake owner, I have my word to say (like you all) on how rewards are taken from the common pool to be distributed. Upvotes and downvotes are the way on Hive to express your opinion and influence this distribution.
Therefore I can use downvotes when I do not agree to allocate part of the reward pool to people still using a platform run by a group of liars, censors, dictators and thieves, thereby providing support to these ways of doing. Not saying I will do.
In total disagreement with what you are proposing.
If we come from a platform called steemit where a fork was made and the content was totally the same as the previous chain. Is this plagiarism too? Who should be accused of this action?
I'm just asking.
It is a persecution they have, a war of powers that benefits no one. Not even you as the great holders of HIVEPOWER. Or is it this power that makes you pretend to want to do what you want?
I would like to know if soon some kind of content will be censored on this platform that is supposed to be decentralized. Criticizing Justin and falling into similar or worse actions, I don't see coherence between discourse and action.
It's my content, my authorship, my creation, it's mine... So I also fail to publish it on Twitter? Or if I upload it to facebook
Is there any exclusivity contract that is signed when you open an account in Hive? tell me, so I can tell the many people that I have helped to enter this platform this month, to whom I have also delegated my voting power so they can start posting.
These are part of the things that should be encouraged by the Witnesses or great owners of HIVEPOWER to call users to HIVE.BLOG, not this kind of threatening actions that are intended to intimidate those who make life here, and as a consequence do not attract anyone. I think you should reconsider your speech, sir.
And let's not make intimidation a flag on HIVE, but, I don't think it goes anywhere...
It looks like a Steemit advertisement. You sure you think you help Hive with this behavior? It likely helps some to get rid of anger and such, but you just push away people.
Well yeah, short-minded, as most of the witnesses.
Well said!
I invite you to read my other reply as many of your criticisms have already been answered there.
A few more answers:
I'm not proposing anything. Simply expressing my very own opinion and sharing a tool I use to anyone who wants to use it. Point.
Hive did not fork Steemit but Steem.
This is the purpose of a blockchain fork.
I'm not "the great holders of HIVEPOWER". Maybe Justin Sun would like to hold that title, not me.
Censorship and decentralization are 2 different unrelated concepts.
Did I write somewhere that there is or that there should be?
You are proposing your own kind of censorship and you know it.
Come on, is "not supporting" people censoring them?
If yes, should I call "censors" all those not supporting me?
Don't act like you are just anyone. Whatever you post has power. and you are using your power to influence people to act.
I live in the US and I see Trump being a racist with his words - and then, people are acting on it in person.
I am not saying that you are a racist. But you need to own up to what you are doing. You have a sphere of influence and I read through the comments on your post and most people feel like I do.
And believe me - I usually don't get involved in spats like this.
But I am so disappointed in you and your actions.
And yes, I am hypersensitive because I am in the middle of a town in riots, and looting, and burning.
And it is because of these kinds of actions.
I am really, really upset and I expected better of you.
I feel that hive and Steem are just a reflection of life - the rich and mostly white males are ruling and to hell with the rest of us.
I promised that I will keep my prompt going to day 1000 - and I will do that.
almost there.almost three years of my life devoted to daily posting. And I probably will let go of it after that.
And it feels that all the talk about freedom and equality is bull.
Yes, you are not shutting down the accounts which is literal censorship - but you are calling those in your realm of influence to follow your example.
As I said. Your actions have power. and the result is censorship or bullying someone to bend to your will.
And now, I am done and am going to work in my garden. So sad that you did this.
blacklisting them because they use steemit is censorship. Set you ego aside and look in your heart of hearts... your blacklisting I would guess is going to hurt mostly those that need the extra income to survive.
There are other people that were behind the creation of steemit that are behaving similarly. I was told a couple of days ago by one of that he is "punishing" (my word) anyone using steemit because he had his steem "stolen". In otherwords he is striking out at those who had nothing to do with taking his steem. If you lost steem as well, then you fall in the same catagory. Why punish others for something they did not do to you? Remember when processing use your heart of hearts so you can get a better view of what you do
That is a huge blacklist. Really you are going to make all US your enemies for something we had no control over. You had some steem stolen from you; I don't like that either, but let me put a story to my face and my story on steem. I am SINGLE MOM who invested in Steem when it was high and I have still not made back my investment, although I have quadrupled my SP and been given HP. I've worked hard and consistently for this community. I am not rolling in dough and I have invested a whole lot of time and positive energy into both chains. Currently, the overwhelming amount of energy is for HIVE. Now you are saying that I must do as YOU wish or you will BULLY me into extinction on HIVE. I have to walk away from an investment because the big guys can't play nice with each other.
Look up the meaning of EXTORTION ... it is not just about money but also control. I am pretty sure that the downvote was not intended as a means of extortion. It is for poor quality posts, plagiarism, and spam. END OF. It is not for personal agenda, anti-trust behavior, and racketeering. It's like a fracking gang war here. Give it up and nurture HIVE instead. It is something I intend to continue to do if you will ALLOW me to do so by not down-voting me. But you don't own my work and you don't get to decide where and how I post my work.
If I flood HIVE with the same material ... that's spam.
How am I ever to convince anyone to join HIVE, if you and other big players continue to behave like this? This is NOT witness behavior. This is not legal behavior.
All the effort you put into fighting Sun is effort that could be put into HIVE. All the effort you put into fighting, makes it more difficult for HIVE to thrive. It gives this blockchain and every other blockchain a bad name and keeps people away. We should be growing fast because other than this kind of thing, HIVE is a fantastic place.
Here is the irony. Steem and HIVE are not actually in competition. (Facebook, Twitter, Reddit ... that's the competition. They are laughing at us for this kind of thing. Looks pretty sophomoric to their eyes.) Where HIVE and Steem are concerned ...if one of us does well, it will help the other one by improving the reputation of block chains and crypto and attract more people to both chains. That is the way forward.
I sincerely hope you and everyone else who had their Steem taken get back every cent of what was lost. What happened was not right but what you are doing now is not right either. I hope you can see that. And you will focus your attention elsewhere and let people have sovereignty over where they post their work.
Pryde
I so agree with you!!!
I am so upset to see a post like this. And you are right - the big boys are fighting and they don't care what happens to the rest of us.
Same old, same old...
marianne: This is not the only one taking out on others that were not involved in the original altercation and the hardfork creating hive. I know because I dealt with it two days ago. At least that person was not creating a blacklist and if i recall insinuated down-voting. That person was just blocking me from voting using the tribal token. many people did not earn any of that token...and I hve over 1.5 million of the token. needless to say I am dumping it.
Here is a link to an interesting publication...if it gets censored let me know and I will get you the link. https://steemit.com/steem/@steemitblog/interview-all-steem-hard-fork-related-issues-revealed
Thank you. I am so upset - and as I said, usually I don't get involved. But this opened up a can of worms for me. And it seems, for you as well.
They have lost a lot of money. Some of them are certainly not seeing the big picture. Hopefully with some time to think about, a different approach will be taken. Their beef is with Sun and not us.
Some people would rather focus their energy on drama rather than just being a good community member and team player.
I heard you. Read this post if you haven't already.
Is this a really late Aprils fools joke?
2400 people on a blacklist, how many users actually post content on HIVE?
SPinvest does not post on STEEM as we moved with the community to HIVE but we would like to have the option without the fear of being added to another pointless blacklist.
I just had to double-check SPinvest has removed you as a witness vote. Your post contains x20 "i's" and not 1 single "we". Your actions and these words show you could not care less about the community.
Bro, you need to get your shit together and work for the community. You have alot of witness votes as you've been here a long time, im sure most of them are from dead STEEM accounts but a vote is a vote i guess. I only know of you from your automated daily posts but what are you about? are you here to serve the community are dictate by slapping your dick on the table?
FACEBOOK NOW BANNING ALL USERS THAT HAVE USED TWITTER IN THE PAST 7 DAY's
(I removed this small sentence from my original post: "I might even start to downvote them if they persist in their behaviour.")
They? you mean the community? - Dont be holding your breath for a thank you from anyone
I heard you. Read this post if you haven't already.
Los venezolanos estamos asqueados de tanta arbitrariedad,amenazas y persecución como para, también, tener que soportarlo aquí donde tenemos un espacio "libre" en el cual expresar lo que sentimos y decidir el lugar donde publicarlo. Mis publicaciones son distintas en una que en otra, no veo cuál sea el problema. Y al igual que @josevas217 estoy ayudando a nuevos ingresos, con el poco hp que tengo les estoy delegando para que puedan navegar en esta plataforma. Creo qe hay que sumar y multiplicar no restar ni dividir.
Has expresado lo que siento. Tengo muchos seguidores españoles y veo que este "castigo" va a herir a muchos de ellos que sólo tratan de ganar un poco más para sobrevivir en el mundo.
¿Amenacé a los venezolanos?
Estás poniendo en la lista negra a muchos que intentan sobrevivir usando ambas plataformas para ganar dinero para vivir. Así que sí.
Los que resultan heridos son los que más lo necesitan.
¿Por qué no entienden que mientras continúen usando una plataforma corrupta como Steem, esto no permitirá que el otro sistema que usan crezca aún más?
Todos tenemos que ganar al renunciar a Steem para dar más valor a lo que puede ganar en Hive de lo que puede obtener publicando en la plataforma Steem y Hive.
Wow! With all due respect Mr. @arcangel, do you think this is the best way to boost hive? Well, I'll tell you what I think is more like terrible harassment. I agree with my colleagues, I am Venezuelan and I feel exhausted from so many manipulations. Everyone is free to decide what to do.
Some are so wrapped up in their ego that they cannot stop themselves. They would rather punish those not involved thinking they are getting back at JS, but they are not. You are right they do not make Hive look very good. They do not want freedom they want to control everyone and everything. If they do not control everyone and get them to think the way they do then their poor egos would go bonkers.
Practica un poco la empatía para entender que acá habemos muchos que comemos gracias a nuestro talento. Y no solamente posteamos acá, venimos desde hace años posteando en Steem, Weku y otras tantas, todo para reunir las monedas y tratar de vivir con eso. Ahora vienes tu a ser el juez y a decirnos que no podemos postear en Steem porque saliste peleando con Justin Sun. Son cosas que tu ni tu cuenta valorada en más de 20 mil usd podrán entender jamás.
I totally agree with your post, apart from the downvote part. I was planning to do the same in two weeks time when all the powerdowns are finished.
All the powerdowns? Mine will take at least another 4 weeks.
& anyway I would have still copied my stuff to steemit (with a backlink to the Hive-original), if they had not decided to automatically delete my posts a while ago. What's the problem with that? Pretty much every post takes me hours to write, & there is no exclusivity agreement with Hive.
What's more, I'm actually thinking of posting all my China-critical stuff to steemit despite & just because of the censorship there. It will be deleted from steemit, but still be available on other frontends. Why not interfere with Sun's efforts to suck up to the CCP?
& there are probably others who just post on steemit to voice their criticism of Sun & his policies.
Blanket blacklists are just stupid.
I have to admit, I do like that thought.
4th June
Removing the downvote sentence is not changing anything.
You are trying to blacklist people that have chosen to be on both chains.
And you are throwing your weight around as someone who has a large wallet, are a dev and can develop tools us mere mortals can't, who has the ear of a bunch of others with a lot of power on this blockchain.
If you don't want to do something - fine.
Your actions is still a form of bullying and I am so tired of this.
Not only do I have to listen to Trump who is doing the same bullshit on an admittedly much bigger platform - as in impacting the whole world - but read this sh*t from you.
You have power and you are using it in a very bad way.
And I do post to both blockchains and pretty soon, I will follow what so many have done before - say goodbye to both of them.
Because of behaviors like yours.
I am tired of bullies!!!!
It’s your vote but what a crap move.
Last I checked an individual’s content belongs to that individual. If I want to share my thoughts on steem, hive, Facebook, in a damn pamphlet, in discord, in a Christmas letter to my parents, on Instagram it is my prerogative.
Your vote... whatever. But how utterly stupid.
This is like an Uber driver refusing a fare who also uses Lyft. If everyone doesn’t play in your sandbox you are pouting about it?
Last time I checked there is a global pandemic putting millions of people out of work. People who need to find money through alternate means. You actually have the time in your life to be checking on steem, then coming back to hive only to make a list that prevents people you don’t know, whose real life circumstances are beyond your knowledge, from earning a pathetic amount of almost worthless crypto with their own content on multiple platforms?
No wonder Steem and soon to be Hive are such a mess.
🤦🏻♀️
You are speaking from my heart!
I don't get excited about online stuff often. but this blatant abuse of power - and that is what it is when you make a post like this in the position he is in - just makes my blood boil over.
No wonder so many people don't want to have anything to do with either of the blockchains.
So sick of this!!!
Bullying at its best.
I am so disappointed!
This is one of those posts that reminds me, from time to time, that even Hive may not be my permanent home.
There is an entire pandemic going on, and people are DESPERATE for all sources of income. This was true before the fork and the pandemic -- people in Venezuela, Malaysia, and elsewhere were using Steem as their margin of survival. Everybody doesn't have our first world problems. Some people had two resource streams suddenly at the fork, at a time when they would need it the most. AGAIN: the global economy is being affected by the pandemic, and for some people Steem and Hive are the margin of survival.
Why would you mess in that, @arcange, at the very worst time in history? Do you know how many people on your blacklist -- 2,461 people -- may be doing what they have to do to SURVIVE? Has it occurred to you that you are putting your weight AGAINST actual humans needing to do what they need to do to survive?
The tragedy of this for me is that I generally agree with you about what happened to Steem, and I am not dual posting there for roughly the same reasons. But I am here in the United States, and I have the luxury of not needing Steem -- but even I was tempted back in April, because my city was the first in the U.S. to lock everything down and throw most of its citizens out of work. Because I am hugely prolific, I could have made twice as much money and I NEEDED THE INCOME, even right here in the U.S. However: other options were available to me, and I found and took them. That freedom does not exist in many parts of the world.
Love or hate Justin Sun, but that does not change the fact that there are people who depend on Steem to survive, and that even the addition of Hive does not change that in a global crisis. They need BOTH. I know some of these people. They outnumber Justin Sun thousands to one. I will not agree with anyone who wants to band together and take half of the food out of their mouths. They have the right to use the tools necessary for their survival, and this should not be interfered with, especially now. Please reconsider.
In the meantime: I voted you for a witness back on Steem, because I value the work you brought to the chain there and also here. Yet with deep regret I have removed my witness vote from you here on Hive. I despise Justin Sun and EVERYTHING he stands for, but I will not stand for taking that out on those that need all the help and earning opportunities they can get right now. No community is better than how it treats its neediest people, and a lot of people posting on Steem and Hive are doing so to survive. You and I are not in that position, but bringing together people to downvote those who are is wrong, and I cannot support a witness that does that.
P.S. I could have written in detail about how your post is a PR DISASTER for those of us trying to onboard people who don't know the history. "You mean the leadership will punish me for taking advantage of a similar opportunity to increase my income -- at a time like THIS?" That, by itself, destroys the whole conversation about decentralization and freedom and fair opportunity, because if a group of leaders can get together and punish those on one platform, they can do it on any other. People are not dumb, @arcange. They understand precedent. Many of us are here on Hive because we understood it on Steem... which brings me back to my introductory comment.
I stopped using STEEM... and I stopped using my STEEM account, @steemitri.
I created a new account, exclusively for HIVE.
So I changed name and I'm posting only in HIVE.
Hugs!
@hivelander
The Immortal Mannequin
I was wondering what you rebranded into.
Yep... I'm HIVELANDER now, hahaha!!!
Hugs from Switzerland!
Way to go. Great move @hivelander
Dunque hai tutto perfettamente in regola...non hai nulla di cui preoccuparti :)
curie, actifit, fred, enginewitty...
I would wait a few weeks until going to task with this list - some accounts are 'posting for fun' while they powerdown and I think once this month is out we'll see less overlap.
Are you supporting this bullying? I really hope not.
I am so tired that people with money are trying to control others. He can do what he wants. But just by providing this tool, he is inviting others to follow his example.
It is the rule of rich white men and I am tired of this.
The promise that is made all over again is FREEDOM
People should be able to feel free and not be shamed or threatened.
No I am not, but perhaps the comment wasn't clear.
I mentioned names of accounts I know are on/moving to Hive and only posting for 'fun', and suggested arcange does nothing while things settle.
I know you post your actifit report, and it's going to both chains - another example as to why I think the best action is to do nothing.
Thank you. But I see his post as a call to action and as an act of bullying. Let people do what they want. His behavior as a person with influence and power on Hive is just an example that nothing has changed. Just a different set of people who want to control others. I am so sad and I feel that I wasted three years of my life here. Yes, I have some in my wallet, but if I break it down by cents per hours - it is nothing.
And an example that it was and is impossible to go anywhere on these blockchains unless you are willing to kiss ass of the ones with the big wallet.
I am sick and tired of it and am staying until I fulfilled some promises. After that - I am waiting for a good day to liquidate.
I am beyond disappointed and this particular post just came at a time when I was questioning how to spend my time.
But then again, maybe I just stay and become a Milker - who knows, maybe I start playing like the big boys.
Don't give up @mariannewest. There are good people here on Hive. Together we can stand up these sorts of initiatives. We fought back against Justin Sun and we can do the same here on Hive. The ground has changed... and some witness's just having figured that out yet.
Travelfeed.io as well.
Thank you @abh12345 I am , I have to and I don't want to abandone all my hardworked steem before I am fully powered down
It is exactly my case, I am finishing the power down and I have not published for 6 days. But I still vote for you...
Continue as you are :)
That's really my case, I am only posting the stupid drugwars battle...
I think the proposed blacklist is so much...
Anyone can have their own blacklist, and this so happens to be @arcange's. I don't think there's anything wrong with creating and announcing your own blacklist
It’s a bit of dick move. Are you going to go up to people in your own face to face real world community and tell a bunch of people they are on your blacklist?
Oh hey shop keeper I know nothing about, florist whose work I saw at a party once, random dude in the elevator at the office. You are on my blacklist. I declare it to the city!
Who does that? Why do that?
This made me laugh:)
Only - he has power and influence. he can do whatever he wants to. But if you have influence you need act according to your station. He is inviting with this post for others to join his hate on people that use their freedom of choice to post on both chains.
And don't give me that everyone can do a blacklist.
You know that influence comes with a fat wallet here and people aren't equals.
I agree, people's power and influence depends on their wallet here, that the fundamental of DPoS. Not saying I like that, but that's how things work around here.
To me, doing a blacklist is more of a technical thing, that's the only limitation. It's what happens to list afterwards and whether people take any notice of it that matters. Most of those 2000+ accounts probably don't get an upvote from him anyway so it won't impact them. And if he decides to go on a downvote rampage that's his call, and his reputation and witness position at risk as can be seen from some of the comments here.
As I said before, I don't have an issue with the list, but I don't agree with downvote.
I have an issue with this post. If you have influence and you post something like this - people are going to act on it. If he did that tool for himself, fine. But a post like this is a call to action.
It is a tool though and it is inviting. It has a license that is free, even cheaper than content from one owner to two places. The post doesn’t just carry the context of a blacklist, it is announcing of a tool to tap into, else it needs not much announcing. Too, milking is a strong word. Many post to steem who aren’t milkers. And touching on likely reasons why he doesn’t post on steem, one being ‘likely downvotes’ shows knowledge of the impact annoicnemt like this can have, even just knowledge of it can he strike fear. I don’t talk either. But I found this post straight from chat room, where it was discussed and concerning and arrived here. Still I won’t talk.
That's the point
It appears your tool is busted.
However, as I post on both chains, I can assume I’m on your “list.”
I support your choice not to support me and have returned the favor by removing my witness vote from you.
Fully understandable. I blundered with my communication. Please read this post if you haven't already.
Uh....We post completely different content on both chains. On STEEM we continue an automated daily post since before the fork.
On Hive we post daily analysis. Under your proposition, is that we should be punished for using HIVE to post new content, or for continuing to provide a STEEM service to those that remain?
My intend wasn't (and still isn't) to punish people. Please read this post if you haven't already.
How DARE you choose to do what you will with your own crypto. You're acting like you own it or something?!
All joking aside, cross-posting on Steem makes me think of the slave traders back in the 1600's.
Everyone knew about it but they said nothing because they earned lots from what America produced. The British were happy with their big fat cheque at the end of the month, job done. What slave trade you ask?
Kinda like what's happening here. Everyone knows over 5 million was outright stolen, but everyone looks the other way because, "duuur, derp, profits"
This is UNBELIEVABLE! I would expect this sort of behavior from the likes of Justin Sun... But you!??! I'm so very disappointed @arcange.
I recently voted for your witness during the Hostile Steem(it) take over... I was just beginning to be familiar with you and the positive work your doing here on the Hive Blockchain...
But unfortunately... this shows a serious deficiency in your approach to this Blockchain. And of all the times... Right now peoples lives are literally burning down all around them... Do you not have a sense of consideration? Seriously!?
I think that trust is something that's earned and built... But it's like a house. You build and build and build... But it's things like this that burn positive things to ashes.
I usually bring only positive energy to this Blockchain... I have even decided to move all my business efforts to the Hive Blockchain exclusively, leaving behind Steem(it) for better things...
Please... Show me better things...
With out this courteous and socially beneficial approach Hive will only end up like it's predecessor. We need to collectively take the high road.
We need leaders with vision and respect... We do not need witness's behaving as cliche overlords.
So! I'm out. I just un-selected your witness here on Hive with all of my accounts and removed my following and proposal vote for @HiveBuzz.
It grieves me much to have to do this... But the signal to all witness's needs to be clear.
This decentralized and for the user Blockchain moves forward at the speed of trust.
Your feedback has always been appreciated. Please read this post if you haven't already.
Travelfeed.io and actifit post what you're posting on both chains by default. Please go ask them the list of people who are using these dapps and blacklist them all.
By the way, you've just lost my support as a witness. If you go on with this, it won't be only my vote I suppose. Good luck blacklisting people.
Just think of the hundreds of people that have SBI votes. Steem Basic Income. They cannot get that back and most have not even earned back their own money. I am in the process of transferring all steem to hive and now this. People do not want "bullies" or downvoters. If we wanna grow HIVE please stop this initiative.
Steem Basic Income has a process for people to fully convert their Steem memberships into Hive SBI memberships. (see Hive SBI FAQ)
In addition, the HF23 is treated as a qualifying event that unlocked the refund window under SBI's refund policy.
There is no reason (other than lack of awareness) for anybody to feel they have to keep posting on Steem because of their SBI membership.
Thx. I will tell our silver gold stacker community here
I had no idea and will tell others as well. Maybe do another post as many must have missed this announcement.
Since conversions are manual and depend on liquidity (SBI power-downs on Steem primarily) we haven't made a big deal of promoting it aside from the initial announcement.
Each time the backlog is cleared, I do a little more to promote it and get the word out.
Ok. Makes sense and thank you yet again for what you do.
Please read this post if you haven't already.
There should be a warning first! And give people at least seven days to get informed about the new rules.
Those posts hardly earned anything any way! It’s a way to find new friends and old friends who rarely post, so that they
could be informed and persuaded to move to Hive! I had already persuaded and explained to new friend and long lost friends to power down and move to Hive. Some bloggers are busy housewives or vendors who hardly had the time to blog or follow what’s happening! They were quite shocked and confused! English is not their first language.
How about APPICS accounts that link to Steemit accounts?! What must they do?!
I heard that APPICS would link to both Steemit and Hive accounts!! Very confusing!
Really need a clear post of the new rules so people are on the same page.
If the posts are different on each platform why should they be punished for using steemit?
They are no new rules!
I am simply expressing my own opinion on my current and future way of considering when I should upvote people's work or not. I also provide a tool for people whose opinion matches mine and who wish to reuse my list. Point.
Indeed, confusing it is. My consideration on how APPICS manages their business is not at the best.
Do you know the implication of being on a blacklist? You think a blacklist is a lush condo in a five star hotel? Being on a blacklist means you've declared some people as damned. It is a psychological weapon to demonize and victimize innocent people. The idea of putting people on a blacklist because of the choice of where they'd love to publish their work is sickening and saddening.
I hereby call for a halt of your blacklist and let freedom of conscience reign on the blockchain. How are you different from Justin Sun, the new sheriff in town?
I heard you. Please read this post if you haven't already.
I have read your apology and I am amazed at your humility. You have my deepest respect. And here is me apologizing if you found my comments rude. My passion for freedom overwhelmed me. Cheers!
Peace @gandhibaba ☮️
entonces porque la ista si es tu punto de vista personal, deja que cada quien decida no tu por nosotros
Este es el caso. Solo expreso un punto de vista y no requiero que las personas piensen o actúen como yo.
This list makes no sense.
Fully understandable. I blundered with my communication. Please read this post if you haven't already.
I support this blacklist! Most people don't care about anything but profits, even if it means using chain that stole millions.
We are free to post on both chains, and we are free to downvote anyone.
hey neighbor, thanks for your downvote.
Interesting that you advertise Steem on your hive wallet:
Investing in Steem it says here!
I have postet only at Appics an Hive!
By the way,
Too bad I never met you at the Meetups in Graz, or Maribor.
cheers
It was 10% downvote with no monetary value, but I will remove it.
Wallet page is using account metadata, instead of posting json metadata. I don't think it can be updated using popular frontends like hive.blog or peakd.
I changed it now.
Thank you for your support @fbslo.
This said, I no more support my own blacklist as I have to admit it was poorly constructed. It didn't match my true intends, fighting against real abusers, not honest people.
Freedom does not mean that you must not listen to others and take care of them anyway.
I don't understand the point of being gung ho about this. I used to double post until a few weeks ago. It was no longer worth my while because the rewards were too small. But hey, why not reap the rewards while there's something in there? Besides, there are other blockchain-based as well as centralized platforms where one can post one's content. Why would anyone have any problem with that?
Why not own slaves? It's profitable. If profit is your only value, I consider you a blight on humanity.
Did you really just suggest posting on two block chains is the equivalent to slave owning? Really? Your analogy is faulty and is indicative of a philosophical fallacy. To begin with posting on two block chains is a victimless crime ... no wait, it's not a crime. Come on ... we are all suppose to be libertarians here ... until someone threatens our sphere of power and control. Right. You want to know what R crimes ... extortion, anti-trust, and racketeering. You can choose who you will and not upvote, but using the downvote for anything other than its intended purpose when you have a great deal of power and influence is criminal. I will mirror your words ... support tyranny at your [own] peril.
I think he was just talking hyperbolic nonsense there. Can happen to the best of us from time to time.
:)
It is a crime to support Steem by being part of it's community, because Steem has become a totalitarian government. The blockchain is merely an infrastructure employed to track data by those who govern, not the government. Steem is a society, and a republic - or it was, as well as a token and a blockchain. You neglect to consider it's governance to avoid holding yourself to account for that governance, because it's slavery you're supporting.
You misapprehend what is at stake. Supporting Steem is literally supporting slavery, because tyranny equally is slavery. It is the eradication of the inherent rights we are made of just as much as we are made of our thoughts, or our physical bodies. In tyranny, just as in slavery, we are no longer sovereign human beings, but property.
I do not support tyranny in any form, and this is why I am utterly free to blacklist whom I will, because that is not forcing anyone else to do so. Your complete lack of comprehension of these principles is breathtaking.
Good luck.
Breathtaking? You flatter, you. Blacklist anyone you like, but you don't get to define what slavery is or a government. Steem is not a government. It owns no land. It does not own me. You could argue it is an internet domain(s) but you are stretching things to claim it is a country. And by your reasoning ... which is based on a faulty analogy ... anyone who lives in a country with human rights violations must move said country or be complicit and be in support of tyranny. Come on. Really? You don't think you are stretching things a little to serve your own agenda and opinion. Or maybe ... you like to stir the proverbial toilet slew. I sure hope it's the second. Cause then we would both be laughing about this.
I am not defining slavery. Slavery is as I have used it, and tyranny makes of all humanity slaves.
Steem is a government because it governs. What do you think voting for witnesses does?
It determines what code comprises the blockchain. It is the mechanism that enables human persons to interact according to established rules. It is government, and even includes mechanisms for funding policy, as all government must. If you claim holding territory is a defining characteristic of government , you underestimate the Vatican, and seem to remain at a level of understanding prior to post-feudal history. What do you think boards of directors do? Every corporation is a government. They govern.
You are a government. You govern the hell out of you every morning when you wake up. You mandate brushing your teeth. You rule you with totalitarian authority.
Sun Yuchen similarly governs Steem with absolute authority, just as you do your corpus. When you form the community of Steem, you literally become his property, creating the basis for value of Steem with your acceptance of your slavery.
If you deny you do a thing, but do it, does that mean it doesn't happen?
No. Just because you deny supporting tyranny but form the community that creates the value of Steem doesn't mean you don't literally hand over money to Sun Yuchen.
It means you're full of shit.
You know what ... I know a tyrant when I interact with one just fine.
Good day to your sir.
Take a cool shower, bro.
P.S. You didn't even answer the question. Why is it wrong to take whatever profit there is to be taken on Steem?
If you do not grasp the explicit answer to your rhetorical questions, nothing I say to you will enable you to do so. However, reasonable people reading our conversation will.
Support tyranny at your peril. That's the simple truth you deny.
I'm assuming Steem is the tyranny here.
Please answer how shitposting to Steem and dumping whatever pennies are earned from that onto the markets is supporting Steem?
The only thing that gives Steem value is it's community.
You are part of that community.
That's how.
The only thing that gives STEEM value is its exchange listings.
There are countless coins without any real communities that still have high valuations.
So, to take down a tyranny do tyrant acts yourself?
I am unable to undertake tyranny. I am not empowered to do so.
What I can do is rule myself without reservation whatsoever.
My employment of a blacklist enjoins no one to do so. I only filter my feed.
How is that tyranny?
Threatening/punishing someone with some kind of bad consequence to follow and do exact what you think is the right thing (as long the opposite of what you think is right doesn't cause any direct harm to anyone, but that is why we evolved as are still evolving laws), even when there as opposing opinions on the matter, well... That is basic tyranny.
You don't have to be a ruler to be a tyrant. You can do that on your influence circle.
So, the problem here is not the opinions anyone have about what is right or wrong to do, but to impose this opinion through force (in this case, the threat to flag).
Doing things in this direction will only turn you on the same thing you are claiming that you fight against.
I consider it wrong because so I do not positively consider reaping or being profit-minded only. That's me.
My post is only about me wanting to stick to my own values and not support such behavior anymore.
I see. We all have our opinions. You at least understand that they can vary between individuals. Thanks for telling us why you think the way you do.
You know that is not true! You have influence and you are shaming people and inviting others to do what you do.
And why would you consider it raping the reward pool? That is bullshit. Raping the reward pool is that all of you with big accounts are voting for each other and the newcomers don't get a piece of the pie.
You are so wrong!
I think you are looking at it from the entirely wrong angle and haven't thought this one through. Bear with me on this one as you seem to have lost what most people are doing. Earn Steem and power it up to Hive. There will be more Hive staked because of this. i for one have never sold one Steem or Hive and is all powered up. Hive will benefit from this and there is only 3 weeks or so that is left.
I agree with you @archange, it's about integrity, I'm not talking about just users, either in the past as steemian, or the present as Hivers.
I think we have chosen our way, and I'm enjoying building my new home while looking for prices for the old house that I started to demolish for sale [power down], so which one your way ? it's the reason to be integrity with your choice!
You have chosen - why do you have to make a decision for others as well? You do you and let others do as they wish.
Yes, I do, and I just said my opinion here. So, I'm not asking anyone else to choose what my decision is like, it's just an opinion and I think you can ask yourself, use two different platforms against the background of an ongoing conflict. Is that an interest in your opinion? or indeed just take advantage of the opportunity in narrowness?
Thank you @ericha
Hi @arcange
When I publish a post on Splinterlands on Steem I actually promote Hive and that's what I've done so far.
I had already decided not to post more posts on Steem already two days ago and before your post.
For all these reasons I am a little sorry to find myself on a blacklist for the first time.
I agree with everything you say but in this point no:
if you do, you will do exactly what Justin Sun does on Steem and I hope you will not. Even if I don't care about downvotes because I won't post on Steem in the future, I hope you will reconsider this possibility.
There are projects on Hive that give upvotes in exchange for delegations: rather on that one should continue to act ...
I hope to see myself removed from your blacklist as other users who only did promotion to Splinterlands and then to Hive on Steem.
Have a nice Day
The sentence you mention, even if written using the conditional form, was indeed source of all this mess. I blundered with on communication.
Please read this post if you haven't already.
Thank you for your constructive feedback.
This is terrible. It’s all about choice. Cross posting doesn’t hurt anyone!
It's not about cross-posting. Anyway, please read this post if you haven't already.
I really appreciate that. I had issues with the downvoting statement, but I understand 😎
Thank you @mcoinz79
Ik ken je zo niet en herken mezelf niet in deze beschrijving. Ik Ben in powerdown tot dan blog ik. Ik werk my ass off in Hive en zou willen dat je mijn projecten zou steunen, maar helaas. Thanks voor het goede blog maar scheer niet iedereen over 1 kam, er zijn uitzonderingen.
Even goede vrienden
Britt
Even goede vrienden, Britt
Bedankt dat u de tijd heeft genomen om uw mening te geven.
What the f**ck.
If you are a social media type person, you know that you post your content to as many sides as possible to reach your audience.
This is another example why Steem sucked and now, Hive is the same story. People with big accounts want to dictate what other people can or cannot do.
Where is the freedom of speech and action?
You want to control people who don't share your opinion and you can do that because you are one of the ones with money = power
Shame on you!!!!!!!
If you don't want to post to Steem - that is your decision.
To threaden to downvote people and shame them because they want to publish to both is being a bully.
I am replying on your comment, @mariannewest, because you're the only one I know here. I haven't seen the blacklist, I am probably included there since I post on both Hive and Steemit. I post on Hive first and then on Steemit. That's what I do every time. I don't even know about what's really going on in these two blockchains and to think that I might be included in the blacklist makes me so disappointed.
I may not have invested as much as the others, but ever since I haven't even gained a profit from posting on either Hive or Steemit. I just submit my posts here all because for a shallow reason that I get a sense of satisfaction when my posts, that I do believe I worked hard for, get noticed and upvoted and it has over $1.00 at least. I don't know if there are other people that think the same way that I do, but that's me, and I don't think it's fair and just to get punished or censored for doing what I am doing, or downvoted just because, only because, I cross-posted on Steemit not because my post is spam or plagiarised.
So I support your views and sentiments, my dear friend, @mariannewest.
Thank you - and that is exactly what I am talking about. There are lots of us who have spend time and energy here and our rewards have been ridiculous. And many of us have been victims of abuse by those with more power.
SO TIRED OF THAT!!!
You know, I'm more a shadow worker than a social media person ;)
And that might be one of the problems we have been facing in the past and possibly in the future. There are those on here who are coming from the blogging life and are utilizing this platform as a way to turn words into bread (or money) and then, there are those who come from the tech side and the investors who each have a different perspective as well.
Thank you for being open to change. Many of us have been hurt with this disaster and are not fully trusting Hive witnesses either. I know that many have one foot out the door if this ends up being the same all over again...
Anyway. Thank you.
and that is Nazi and dictatorial behavior, completely agree with you!
hey @arcange,
i hope i will see you in Aachen!!!
i postet on APPICS and not on Steemit the last 7 days,
and yes i postet the same post on HIVE where freedom to speak is: or not??
#blackouttuesday #voice #justice
here post link on appics
here post link on hive where supposedly free opinion counts
apparently, there is no freedom of speech. Not if a witness makes a post and a tool like this and tries to pretend that it is just his opinion.
sorry dear @mariannewest,
but exactly this - what @arcange did - is freedom of speech.
This is his own opinion and he - as a human - might think whatever he like.
If you don't agree with this - this is fine as well, because this is your own opinion.
So, where is the problem, @arcange did not asked anybody for doing the same. Even if he is a witness and even if he did so many positive things for steem and hive - Why not just tolerate his opnion?
Let us all get all our steem out of the dying thing and just don't care. TIme will regulate this sad story.
@detlev
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True Detlev - but he is also in a position of power. He is, what is called on social media, an influencer. And as such, he has responsibilities. He did not just voice an opinion - but he has a call to action.
And I am exercising my freedom of speech that I see this post as an act of bullying.
all fine - your opinion.
I'll respect yours as well as I respect the one from @arcange
It is the very first time that I am told that I am an "influencer" on social media. Really!
If that's true, then this is something that I'm going to have to integrate. It both makes me proud and scares me a bit.
But you are. And it is scary. Because that means that whatever you do is noticed and has consequences. But you have integrity and can handle it :)
Pilloryizing other people than Witness, then having over 15 hive accounts yourself, sorry this has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
Now all of a sudden I'm a bad blogger because I posted on Appics and Hive, sorry ....
If you don't want to be my brother, I'll smash your skull in!
Andere Leute an den Pranger stellen, als Witness, dann selber über 15 hive accounts haben, sorry das hat mit freedom of speech nichts zu tun.
Jetzt auf einmal bin ich ein schlechter Blogger weil ich auf Appics und Hive gepostet habe, sorry....
Willst du nicht mein Bruder sein, dann hau ich dir den Schädel ein!
The world need more !BEER to be more relaxed.
We have enough shit all around of us the last month.
Hope to see you soon my friend and traveller
thx for your reply,
intresting is @arcange have at least 15 and more Hive accounts, milking???
Today I made a final decision to leave the Hive Blockchain, just like I left the Steem Blockchain. The powerdown of my mini Stake is already running. I won't be renting any more delegations, which I paid for with bought hive
cheers
Hello @reiseamateur,
I also hope to see you again in Aachen. I'm pretty sure we will have a passionate debate on what happened here. Interesting conversation in perspective.
Meantime, please read this post if you haven't already.
Just to put it out there - the auto settings on Actifit posts is to dual post. I had to go in and change my settings to make it just Hive. Probably a lot of Actifitters either don't realize that or don't know how to change it because they just open the app on their phone and go.
I'm not an Actifit user. Thanks for informing me.
Please read this post if you haven't already.
No worries. I just wanted to make sure you knew because a lot of Actifitters are red fish and minnows, many of whom aren't really on top of the news/drama/politics/call it what you will of the blockchain. ;)
Also just to say, I didn't see your original post as "threatening" in any way, I totally understand people are frikkin' frustrated and there was much shady BS pissing people off. Tensions are high, people are tired. You're valid. :)
Thank you @phoenixwren
Your vote, your choice. Their content, their choice. I myself do not like any blacklist, they only cause problems. If people want to follow and use your list, their choice. If people want to down vote, up vote, mute, or ignore those on your list, their choice.
I see a lot of peoples comments are unhappy with you simply stating your opinion, and what your actions may be in the future. I does not matter that you are a witness or not, but people seem to think it does, it is your call on how you use your vote. You could have just not made the list public, but you did, so people could see and so you could be transparent in your actions.
Transparency is needed more. No one on that list will wonder now why they got a down vote from you. It is one down vote. You have 2461 accounts on that list, a very expensive list to down vote if they should all dual post.
Perhaps one day we will see the down vote system reworked and that the peoples voice will be heard in regards to down votes, until then we have what we have, there seems to be no desire to allow for the peoples voice to be heard when it comes to down votes. It is pretty much a one way action, and that the individual receiving, and the people that see the down vote have no option to counter that down vote other than with an up vote. The blind down votes will continue, the down vote only accounts will continue, and the cost will continue to rise in user retention.
I will continue to up vote the post of those I follow on steem that do post until such time as my power down is complete. So their post may get a small down vote from you on hive, they will get a dwindling up vote from me on steem, balance achieved, one down vote, one up vote, the values may differ, but a vote is a vote.
I completely disagree. There will always be bad actors. Being an editor on a public forum is just as wrong as a publisher claiming to be a platform.
I strongly agree and strongly agree with you. I try to be active in HIVE as much as possible. I tried to clean myself here. In the future I want to try to build a large community in the area where I live. We advance together. Greetings from me.
Hi @arcange, I am in your list.
I have a bot that duplicate all my posts from Hive to Steemit.
For me it's not clear where is your point.
I write on Hive and, after, on Steemit, so the content I write for Hive is brand new, and is my property, why I can't reuse everywhere I want?
As many other I'm powering down all from Steemit and, in a few weeks, I no longer use steemit at all, so for me is not a problem to stop my bot, but, this is not the point.
Consider also that Steemit is a desert, and a post of mine has quite no votes, so call it to milk is very hard to do.
I think that what I wrote is my property and I perfectly understand that when I publish on Hive have to be new, but after?
There are many services that re-publish Hive posts on twitter, on facebook and so on, are these services also banned?
Do you think this is the right way to attract new users to Hive?
This post has nothing to do with property of content, plagiarism, reposting, etc... You're free to do whatever you want with your created content.
I'm just stating that I personally do not want to support people posting on both chains. Steem has proven to perform arbitrary censorship, theft of funds, etc... Do you want to profit from that crap, it's up to you.
Do not ask ME to support it.
And if others still want to support you, they are free to do.
That is not what you are doing. You are abusing your position on this chain and you are a bully.
Keep justifying it all you want. You are a known name with influence. And what you say has consequences.
I am so disappointed in you.
What you are proposing is also a form of censorship
I wouldn't worry about it :)
I see my name is on there and the only thing i post is my actifit post.
As actifit posts to both blockchains does that mean actifit is blacklisted too?
Please read this post if you haven't already.
I totally disagree. No one should be able to limit anyone's choices of how they use the internet.
Downvotes are not "limiting" anyone from posting on Hive and Steem. As long account have RCs, it can use blockchain.
I grow more and more disillusioned with Hive.
It appears hive is doing what they accuse steemit of doing, CENSORSHIP. Soon twitter accounts and facebook, and whatever other platform will cause another "blacklist to start.
I am just one of those average users who tries to remain removed from the politics of this platform. I just want to post photos and comment on my friends posts and help them earn a few tokens. I simply don't need this negativity and I know I am not alone.
Unfortunately, we are a minority.
A minority, but you would think that eventually they will figure out they need us. Most people don't say anything, they just get discouraged by downvotes and negativity and quietly leave.
If the content belongs to you and it is not plagiarism or copying, why can't I publish it wherever I want?
What comes next, censorship of Facebook, Twitter and Instagram for publishing the same photo on my social networks?
Are the journalists who write columns and publish them in different newspapers and media, are they also "milkers"?
Coherence please.
we-the-people as a witness will ask using a Dpoll what people think about this action that you have taken as a personal initiative.
here the Dpoll where you can tell what you think about this blacklist.
Vote for us, we will always ask your opinion!
https://peakd.com/witness/@we-the-people/we-the-people-your-witness
I think this is a little premature on your part as I expect most will be out within the next 3 weeks. Truthfully putting a blacklist together now whilst we are all still stuck there for the time being is rather dumb. Why not earn some Steem in the meantime to help our Hive balances? Most of us are small fry and need the extra help we can get.People don't like being dictated to and threatened at the same time and will lose you witness votes with this attitude.
Yep. Not very confidence-inspiring.
Not at all and this was uncalled for. I am 100 percent behind Hive yet we are still being questioned by our actions. I pulled my witness vote as this is not the type of person I will vote for.
I was milking steem for a while but stopped as soon as the HF23 was announced. The theft of funds was a step too far, and I didn't want to add content to a blockchain that supports it. I stopped commenting and upvoting too.
While I don't want to support posts cross-posted on hive (particularly ones that have been cut and pasted from steem) I do think threatening people with downvotes simply for using another platform is a bit harsh.
And it will be used as an example of how Hive people are bullying their users into not using steem.
I know you are censored on Steem, like me. But the actions taken by JS/Steemit were not what incentivized me to do this post.
I blundered a bit on my communication. Please read this post if you haven't already.
I have read it. Thank you! :)
Boooring!!! Every time people start to feel almost comfortable in a new space there is someone coming around the corner and destroying it with his "Power".
Why do I have the feeling that the only reason you´re rowing back now is the fact that people remove their witness vote for you? You probably didn't think of that?!
Most of the people on this list are in power down on steemit and will stop posting soon anyway.
True.
Why do people attribute so much power to me when I don't have it? A downvote from me painfully reaches 1 HVU at full power. Nothing really scary.
I knew some would think so. Whatever, people who really know me know that there are many other reasons more important to me.
Maybe this is not your only account? I don´t know.
You have to admit that it makes sense to think so if someone does not know you! Why don´t you tell people about these reasons. or even better why did you made this post in the first place? What was the intention of it? Just asking because I don´t get it.
There is absolutely no problem in making such a list for your own use, but why tell it everyone? Scare people? Do you want the other to use your list too?
I guess this post might answer your questions.
lol, I don't actually see the need for this. Anyone can post wherever they like, provided they are not spamming or plagiarizing.
I agree with you. I blundered on my communication. Please read this post if you haven't already.
I just published a video on vimeo so if I share it on Hive you will ban my publication because must be exclusive to Hive, I can`t share information on any social network, it is my original work I can publish it wherever I want.
No, I won't ban you and you're are indeed free to publish your content anywhere. Please read this post if you haven't already.
HIVE must be the best crytpo social media on blockchain industries, we have learned about the Steem situation, In some point I understand your view but if we want more people on Hive we have to use centralized social media to bring that people here.
Although I've not posted on Steemit since the accounts of the witnesses were stolen in the last HF, I see this move of yours as being autocratic, Hitleric, highhanded, primitive and even vindictive. This is purely your own attempt at imposing your will on others and gaging freedom. People should be free to post their contents wherever they wish to. It is their content and they have a right to post it anywhere they please. Sellah!
I could agree on your perception toward my post and therefore the use of all these qualifiers except for _ "Hitleric" ._
This said, please read this post if you haven't already.
Having read the post in reference, I apologize for that choice of words. Respect!
witnessvote removed, like many others.
Posts like this are the reason blockchain will never be adopted from the masses.
As blockchains are created by humans I gave up on the thing I say since ages: All blockchains need to united to educated the normal human being about the benefits of this technology. Hive and Steem are only small niche players anyway and the issue both chains have is the social media content part that reward creators etc. - will not work as there will always be discussion what is fair, what is good or bad content, short vs. long posts, blog articles vs. photos. Get rid of rewards for content or make people pay for the opportunity to earn. Main focus should be great DApps people actually use and that are better as anywhere else, this could be a real USP with added value.
PS: Of course you can do whatever you want with your stake, no worries, just my 2cents on the general issue. Of course I am supporting Hive vs. Steem regarding what happened but....... - we shall stop these kind of posts and frighten folks that might need some of the rewards they are able and allowed to generate for their survival. The small guys are the ones that will suffer not guys like you, me and the top stakeholders.
Thank you for your feedback @uwelang. Please read this post if you haven't already.
Exiges respeto y tu respetas, estoy en tu lista y me dio fue risa ja ja ja. O sea como tu no estas alla en steemit queres que nadie mas, e evrdad que el mas traicionero eres tu, si me votas o no esmas no recuerdo si alguna vez me botaste. Y de ñapa quieres que te apoyemos como testigo eres de lo ultimo.....
Creo que mi comunicación no fue clara. Que es mi culpa.
Por favor, lea esta publicación si aún no lo ha hecho.
I see a lot of people voicing concerns but in the end people have the choice of whether they want to use this blacklist or not. Just like everyone has the choice to downvote whatever they want for whatever reason they want, same goes for voting.
We're all free to do as we like. Me? I'm to lazy to bother checking if people post on both chains, steem is dead to me.
yes, everyone has a choice.
But by a witness making a post and a tool like this - it is sending a message. If he would make a tool to look for people that only post to Hive - fine. But the whole blacklist thing is a form of bullying and trying to control people's behavior.
How can you control peoples behaviour when you have to choose to use this tool? Sure he's a witness, if you dislike what he's done unvote him. People aren't going to just blindly follow people if they didn't actually agree with them in the first place.
I have stopped posting on Steem as it felt wrong to add value there and I did not make much anyway, especially after the auto-vote services shut down. I did not really like the idea of 'milking' posts, but then a lot of the dedicated Steem people are milking it any way they can. Some of them are trying it on Hive too, but are not getting far. I see no problem in highlighting them, especially those leasing HP. Some are using that to flag us.
I am still leaving the odd comment on Steem, but cutting down on that. I have had a couple of nice votes on those, but the Steemit curators may remove the rewards. I just need a few more weeks to power down and sell my Steem. Then I may close that tab permanently.
I see you got a lot of hate over this post, but you still have my support. Anyone can do what they like on the blockchain, including downvoting. We get to choose the witnesses we want (unlike on Steem now). Those who still love Steem feel hard done by, but they can do their own thing. Let us see how that turns out.
I'm all about Hive now. Just got some shirts and merch that I cannot wear any more :)
Thank you for your support @steevc, really appreciated!
Damn yes, a lot of overreaction, but that's perfectly understandable given the fact that I screwed up a bit in communicating my intentions.
People can be quick to judge and there are plenty of strong opinions around here. Hope it doesn't get your down.
I think people has to be consequent with their ideas, since the upcoming of JS to Steem I left to post there event a comment, if you support this plattform is imo hypocritical to try to milk STEEM meanwhile. Thats my opinion, Arcange's is that the people who do that don't deserve his support I'm fine with that don't see in that a Nazi behaviour, is his choice and people should respect that.
I won't take part in a blacklist like this though, because I think that the first thing to do in this case should be first, expose his opinion in the post and second try to convince people that doing that is wrong.
If people continues posting in both plattforms then a blacklist to un-support them would be more reasonable.
Make the information available and people can make their own decisions.