Outbound engagement (Thoughts from my car)

in OCD4 years ago (edited)

Recently I was contacted out of the blue on Discord by a user who wanted to ask a question of me.

The user's question was:

"Why do I get no upvotes?

Yes, that old chestnut. Rather than go into a long and descriptive answer straight away I decided to pose a question in return which was:

"How many comments (on other people's posts) do you make per week?"

The answer was predictable:

"I only reply to comments on my own posts, if someone comments."

I think it's pretty clear why this user isn't getting any upvotes, don't you think?

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I'm amazed by the lack of understanding when it comes to building relationships, putting oneself on the map and nurturing one's account here on hive. A lack of education on hive's part? Should there be a basic training manual at the front-end somewhere as a user joins? Would anyone even read it though?

People seem unwilling to bother with outbound engagement. I think people simply feel they can throw up a post and just sit back and wait for the cash to roll in...But it's not like that; Not even the real world is like that generally, although the expectation ethos-plague does seem rather rife at the moment.

I've been here for almost three full years now, June 13th 2017 was my start date, and I have engaged a lot. I'm going to put it in italics actually as I feel I have earned the right...I have engaged a lot. And still, I am a small account, sometimes receiving only a few comments on my posts. It takes time and a lot of work to build here.

People see larger accounts and aspire to being them, gaining the same number of votes at least, but *don't want to put any effort into placing themselves in that position. Simply being here doesn't mean people deserve votes by default.

Unless one is within an upvote-circle-jerking scenario, which needs to be stamped out, or one simply creates a pile of alternative accounts and self-votes with a massive stake, votes can be hard to come by; This is exacerbated by people's failure to engage with others.

It doesn't make a lot of sense, but outbound engagement is seen as unimportant, when in truth it is vitally important.

On many occasions I'll open up a dialogue with a user and get no response, or a basic and careless thanks comment in reply. Opportunity lost - For them. I just move on. I even engage quite deeply with some on their posts but get no engagement back on my own posts; It's like they don't care...Ok, I'll take my engagement and votes elsewhere. That's the answer I guess.

You see, the word community means something. It means people coming together, it means a collective, it means sharing...Unfortunately it also means people feel they are owed something, that they deserve it...But that's not the case really, is it.

I guess the people that need to read this will not and those that do are probably already engaging. But here's the thing...For this to push forward we all need to work in the same direction and I see it as important for those of us who have been around for longer to take the lead; I mean those of us who actually care about it because there are many here who don't; Their behaviour clearly shows that. They may talk the talk, but simply don't back it up.

Back to our friend above...

I don't know what that account plans to do or if there's any plan at all. I mean, the account, created in April 2020, is already blacklisted on @hivewatchers so I guess we can't expect too much...But it's not too late for others...Is it?

Engagement should not be seen as a chore or imposition. If an account only posted twice a week with something that showed passion, personality and effort, but outwardly-engaged 100 times a week on other people's posts, I am confident the result would be better than posting shitty cut/paste posts 37 times a week with no outbound engagement at all.

Outbound engagement, that is, commenting on other people's posts, is critical to relationship-building, longevity, enjoyment and upvotes. I believe in it, and believe it should largely happen on hive, not Discord.

I do not value laziness nor do I reward it. The same goes for ego and hubris, two personality traits a person should eliminate as quickly as possible. I apply that here on hive.

I'm also one who likes to help those who wish to help themselves and I get genuine enjoyment from doing so.

I don't think it's overstepping the mark to expect that a person here should take some responsibility for themselves. Yes, it can be difficult, yes, there's a few weird little clique's (groups) that act like kids in a schoolyard secluding others from their little crew and yes getting noticed can seem impossible...But it is not.

There are many curators out there looking for new users and interesting work; The key is for a user to put themselves out there, to run a flag up their flagpole, herald their existence to all and sundry and engagement is how that's done.

Or not. It's a choice, with some kind of result either way.


Design and create your ideal life, don't live it by default - Tomorrow isn't promised.

Be well
Discord: galenkp#9209

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I really needed to read this. I'm not gonna lie, It's not easy to see the post you've put many hours creating not rewarded. But I guess you are right. I need to engage more than what I'm currently doing and just build that strong connection.
Really, thank you for this man. <3

Hey mate, thanks for reading.

Yes, it's really hard to see hours of your work go unrewarded but if you focus 70% of your time engaging with relevance and interest on other people's posts you'll start to build relationships to help the other 30% of your time (posts) get more rewarded. Don't get hooked up on those percentages, I used them as a guide.

Engagement is so important.

Let's say you engage with me here like you have, then never do so again...You think I'll remember to visit your blog and vote? (Probably not).

But if we engage daily, every couple days maybe, what then? I'll remember you, and you me...See how it works?

Be front of mind and don't expect bigger accounts (or anyone really) to come to you...You need to pull them in and that's done by engagement.

I'm glad this post has helped you. Let me know if I can help further. 😁

#strongconnections

I cannot agree more. Honestly though, things have been getting better since I started to engage as genuinely as possible. So I guess this is the way then. :)
Thank you brother. <3

That's great to hear. Keep pushing forward with it. I've been around for 3 years and still engage a lot as I know the value of it...I've made something like 550+ comments this week. It has a lot of value.

Keep pushing. 😉

Copy that! :)

Engagement should be one major priority when starting off as a newbie on this community

Yes, I heard that somewhere before actually.

Thank you for this! I needed to read it. Sometimes even those who know better fall behind (maybe it's just as bad). After reading this I went and checked my comments on my profile and it’s rather pathetic! I will say the past few weeks I have been deep on the discord side of engagement moderating a new hive game and working on curating stem posts. By doing this I have built some great relationship here and I am thankful for that. But truth is that's what I love most about hive, the engagement and the community. Of course, it is exciting to have your post curated and be proud of the work you have put into it, but at the end of the day, the relationships formed on here and knowledge gained from another perspective are also very rewarding. Therefore, it’s important for me to delegate some more time into hive engagement. I love to read your posts it’s rare to have quality and quantity combined in such a manner and I wish I could read them all!

Your an inspiration!

💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

Thanks for your compliments, greatly appreciated.

We all have different ideas I guess and some prefer to spend all their time on Discord, and some very little, like me. Some of that discord work needs to occur I suppose, but if everyone spent their time on Discord and not hive there would be no hive. It's all good and well to develop different things and build relationships on Discord but if that's all there is.. Well it's a message app really, nothing more, and hive will die.

I wonder if people feel more comfortable on Discord as little effort is required to simply have a lineal chat like people used to 20 years ago on Yahoo messenger. (Google it)...Basically exactly what Discord is.

There's no hive without content and interaction.

Anyway, thanks for your comments, compliments and input; I appreciate it a lot.

People follow people, not posts.

Yes, exactly...

I find your comment disconcerting though...I had to write 900 words to say the same thing you said in five. Lol.

(I agree completely though, and all those words gave my fingers some exercise at least.) Lol.

I've put a lot of thought into this over the years. Probably said the same things a million different ways, with each new version becoming shorter and shorter. It all boils down to those five simple words.

If a post gets published on Hive and no people are around to see it, does it get read?

These days its even more challenging. Not as many people around as there was when some of us made ourselves known.

There comes a time when the roles reverse. Instead of going out, pounding the pavement, and making your presence felt; people come to you. Plenty of people have visited me over the years and because of that, sometimes they get a follow, which leads to votes, provided I see the work and enjoyed it.

It has been quiet. Not a good sign.

Let me ponder the conundrum you posed...My brain is too far into Saturday to come up with an answer so rapidly. :)

Yeah, it's been quiet...I post twice a day still though as I figure someone might come across me due to the lack of other options. I have to think of it that way or else I'd probably just stop posting and considering I enjoy it...Well, I just keep going and hope someone sees them.

If it was not for the engagement I get I would simply stop as it's the engagement that adds depth to my posts. Sure, I would love to attract some interest from larger accounts who continue to follow and vote, but that can't be the motivation because it doesn't really happen like that for me...So, I do it because I enjoy it, value the engagement and hope the other follows on at some stage.

Quiet? Yep, but I hope it get's noisier. I'm going to keep banging on about engagement and see if I can help the process.

Some of what I like to do to trigger a response is on pause for now. Used to be able to write using characters. People would comment and I'd respond in character. Could be the biggest dickhead but everyone knew it was just for fun, kind of like being the bad guy wrestler at times.

Your post mentions getting rid of ego and hubris. Wise words. For entertainment I would take those traits, blow them up, have some fun with it, publish a post being that way. People knew I was joking. Somewhere along the lines suspension of disbelief no longer became a thing; some were taking it seriously. The mood or vibe is quite serious at the moment. Even my previous post is meant to be humorous but toned it down quite a bit because that bad guy wrestler/artist combo just doesn't seem to be getting the reaction.

The point is, I wouldn't be trying to put on a show if I didn't want people to read and respond. So it's somewhat quiet and a quiet day depresses me. Not sure if I should push it or tone it down. Man you could put $1000 beside my post but without a reaction I have no idea if it was good or not. Damn I'm rambling about some useless shit again.

I hear you mate, about it being quiet. I spend a lot of time in the new, all posts section though, scanning for something to curate so I see a lot of posts and it seems less quiet, but my own feed and often the communities...Yep, slow. I hope it improves.

I understand the character thing although I think some would not understand, especially a non-english speaker. Having said that though, we can't operate within such limited bounds. It's no different to people posting in Spanish of Korean I guess. So, do what you will and just have fun I guess right? Same with the ego/hubris thing, but then there's the vibe to consider.

Anyway, all I hope is that I add some value and whilst I know the clique-groups around the place won't see it, some others may. Or that's my hope.

I'm aware of the risks. Different cultures, different sense of humor. Sarcasm is its own language.

It's good though to see posts like these from time to time, reminding people of the truth. I imagine if we had millions of consumers around, most folks could get by simply by sharing their work. Right now it's kind of a small town where everyone knows everyone, unless you're new. People do need to mingle.

I'll scroll through the recent work as well. I'd suggest people add some life and their own personality to their posts since again, people follow people, not posts. A picture of a tree is just that. I can't follow a tree anywhere.

Was nice to get a decent upvote for a comment, that’s gone these days but the approach should still be the same for the new people.

0 interactions elsewhere ain't good enough!

I very rarely vote comments but felt like having a crack, re-visiting the good old days and threw one in up above. Lol.

You and I both know how important engagement is, we're the converted, but I am so often amazed by lack of it, especially by newer accounts trying to get established. Let's see if the person who messaged me on Discord reads my post and makes a comment huh? I'll not hold my breath.

Unlikely, They seem not to travel much. Same for me of late really, will have a pop at changing that later today.

What is it 8:35am Saturday your way? Seems like you've got all day to get after it and take care of business...Sunny day hopefully...So a walk and work out then back to the computer? Enjoy.

Sounds like a plan, was thinking a few more hours in bed though first!

Enjoy your evening 😎

Sleep in sounds like the go!

Yeah, Westworld tonight. Stormy night here. Good TV weather.

When i vote a comment it is a thank you, an acknowledgment more less.

@nonameslefttouse said
"If a post gets published on Hive and no people are around to see it, does it get read?"

So I was thinking maybe attach a tree crashing down sound byte to my notifications. That made me LoL.... And keep reading. Thanx. :-)

Hmm, an interesting concept...We should get the great thinkers of our time onto it..

Kim Kardashian
Kanye West
The cast of any reality show
News readers

They'll be able to solve the conundrum.

@gakenkp I believe it's important to interact with others and establish a good relationship. I have noted that majority of the people on hive reply in comment session and I love that.its a plus for we newbies.

Engaging with people, on their posts, is a good way to announce your presence here on hive, and to draw them to your own posts. It is the only way really, unless you have a powerful benefactor which most do not.

Just a note mate...You keep spelling my username wrong, twice now...This means that if I happen to miss the comment when you post it, it will also not tag me and notify me. You need to spell user names correctly to tag the user. :)

All the best.

Sorry about the misspelt username. I think the autocorrect on my phone fail me once in a while.thanks

No apology needed, I'm just letting you know that it is important to get it right if you wish to tag someone like that. No worries mate.

Nicely written

Thank you. I appreciate you reading and taking the time to comment. It is greatly appreciated. Have a great weekend and I hope to see you again sometime.

Excellent advice given here if people read this and take it onboard.

Yes, the right people need to read it. People like you and I already get it.

I've had so many of those comments on discord. Almost always they make no effort being posting and running. It's tiring saying the same thing all the time. Sometimes they even turn on you slightly as if you are holding back some massive secret. Lol

Oh yeah, the upvote wizardry we're using...I know it well. It's laughable, but then not...I mean, our survival depends on this, on people. We need to push harder.

A challenge about three pictures of places you've been, or some such thing doesn't teach the masses how to engage better...It just gets a few more posts up then people lapse into their old habits of failing to engage. All of those challenges are the same. People need to comprehend the importance of engagement, and understand how to best do it.

Thanks for your comment, I can see that you're a master-class engager. Hey, guess what broo...Faith is watching Braveheart in the next room. (My favourite movie.) Love that shit!

FREEEEEEEEEE...DOMMMMMMMMMMMM

Lol.

P.s. I swear I saw you in the second rank, next to the bloke with the blue face...You had on a kilt...And a big pole. The pole was for fighting...Not...Well, you know. Lol.

Hahaha!! Braveheart is an awesome movie. I totally remember it stoked a wave of resentment against the English. Terrible stuff. Although kinda amusing.

I am with you on the challenges. I don't usually like them because it just gets people to do stuff to a script for rewards and the general quality is never great.

You are totally right, we need the engagers not the dump and run'rs!

Now where is my big pole..? :0D

Challenge shmallenge...There needs to be something more productive and sustaining...I don't know what, but the dump and run ethos you mention needs to stop.

Be careful with that pole mate, you might attract attention you don't want...

P.s. It's not under yer kilt mate...Or is it?

I will be in trouble if it is, the kilt is in a cupboard upstairs!!

Lol...Yes, hopefully your curtains are closed.

You know, I had a tactical kilt a while back. I wore it in a shooting competition. It's basically a kilt, but in desert sand colour with pockets and stuff, like tactical trousers, but a kilt. I looked smashing mate! Me and three mates did it for a lark. I'll see if I can dig up a picture. Good times.

Hey @galenkp!

I did not know of your blog - else I would have followed you sooner - but after you left a lengthy comment on my post recently, I went to view your profile.

I was actually pleasantly surprised and happy that you took the time to respond, to share your own views. So, thank you for reaching out! (:


Moral of the story: outbound engagement really works!

Putting aside its efficacy, it fosters genuine human interactions too.

I probably should do more of it myself, down the road.

Hi Joey, thanks for your reply, for reading my post and checking out my blogs-feed, I hope you found something interesting there and that you stop by again.

I appreciate your comment and wish you all the best for the weekend.

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I don't think anyone can emphasize more on this topic like you've done. A lot of people think all they have to do is make a post and the money will just roll in.

That is why I do try my best to read people's post and drop reasonable comments.

And that is why building relationships has always been one of my main priority

Relationship-building should be everyone's priority in my opinion but alas, it is not. Still, people like you, who do it, will gain greater results a lot faster so keep up that effort and leave the others to flounder around in the dark I suppose. All we can do is tell them, then lead by example.

Hey, @galenkp.

I know it seems counterintuitive to people who first arrive here that engaging on other people's posts is the way to go in the beginning. I know it was for me, or better said, I became suspicious of the advice. But, it soon became apparent that getting out there and making yourself known was about the only way—content discovery being what it is.

So, for the genuine seeker of how to do it here, eventually, they will take that to heart.

re: people not posts

While I know that's what a lot of people do, I find myself conflicted with that idea. Especially when we have a definite push within this community to have 'quality' content. You can't vote people—not exclusively, and not even primarily—if your actual aim is 'quality'.

So, we end up going round and round, needlessly, I will point out (not you and I, we as in the community :), simply because a grand faction of us is too busy policing what others are doing, in the meantime, not always tending their own store, while still others are on the opposite end doing all they can to do the least they can and still make something.

Between those two sides are the rest of us, who are earnestly trying to use the platform the way it was intended—and trying to search out things we want to read and comment and curate on.

I agree with you as usual and thanks for backing up my outbound engagement ethos as I expected most people who have been around for a while would.

With the people not posts thing I think nonames means it more generally, meaning people need to get to know the creator a little, feel they like them and are beholden to them before they feel comfortable to vote consistently. Take me with acidyo for example. I would happily vote everything he posts just because our relationship.. But I don't. I don't like (respond to) gaming stuff and so I don't vote that...but I can rely on him posting well and with relevance on many other things and so feel confident...It's because of the relationship.

I know what you mean though and agree, content needs to show value, no matter who posts it, and that value should be rewarded.

The problem arises when some see value as a magazine-quality post, something so high above normal that only a few can attain it, and others see quality as a shit post about a blurry photo of a stick-meme. Some will only see a homesteading post about growing beans as quality and others will only see a post about crypto as quality. It's all bullshit. quality is everywhere and about every topic...Provided that the right firm has been applied to the post. People need to get off their high horse and see that.

But...Having said that, they need to engage too. Yep, even those larger accounts that talk about it but never do...At least a little right?

re: ethos

It just seems like every time we find an external scapegoat for our problems, we limit our solutions and our ability to affect them. True happiness seems to lie in accepting and finding joy in the place where we're at, but always striving to be more. We improve ourselves, good things happen, one way or another, even if we're not always around to see the good we've wrought.

re: people not posts

Okay. I agree that there is a relationship involved that way, a layer of trust that the content creator is going to provide at least some posts we want to consume, and it makes it easier to understand worldviews and perspectives if we know them as well as we can when most of us will only do it via text on a screen.

re: quality

Oh, the ever elusive quality. I've read magazine articles that aren't worth the paper they're printed on. So much for that. It seems like we're always needing to meet in the middle somewhere. And I agree. While I personally try to adhere to some level of value adding with my posts, and I think many try to do that, quality isn't what we're talking about, because we have no way to measure it or define it, and really, no desire to enforce such a thing. Maybe they can do that in communities and curation trails where people join willing to uphold those standards.

re: larger accounts

Agreed. In that, we can all do a little more walking the talk. People tend to follow when there's a proper example to lead.

The thing with humans is that each one will only do what they feel is the right thing and there'll be others who disagree, or agree in equal measure. I'm sure Adolf Hitler felt like what he did was the right thing, as did his henchmen. Others disagree completely.

It's the same here and we can go back and forth consulting on this and that but it won't change most people's opinions. People are typically lazy and will seek the easy option mostly, here and in real life.

Others, like you and I, actually care and all we can do is set that good example you mention and be content knowing we have tried to be the best versions of ourselves.

Always nice chatting with you...Let's schedule in a BBQ some day and solve the world's problems. 🤔😊

Hey, @galenkp.

re: opinions

Somehow enough folks got together and decided risking it all and creating HIVE was a much better scenario than hanging around on STEEM after poking the hornet's nest and the hornets reacted like hornets.

We just all need a common enemy. A fall guy. A scapegoat. Someone we can just all heap our respective reviling on and we'll be fine. Someone or something outside of HIVE would be my choice. Maybe Justin Beiber. Or gluten. Star Wars VIII. I'm sure we could come up with something. Sigh. :)

Drama
Maybe there's too many people here who like to stir up drama to furnish their unfulfilled lives with something they perceive as interest. I don't know, but it seems there's a lot of pot-stirring. Maybe they just need to feel important because in their real-world lives they feel irrelevant. It's sad really, and I feel pity for a person who is so uninspired in life they need to stir trouble for a feeling of relevancy or to feel connected.

Having said that, some of the matters on the table now and in the past have been valid. If only we could all move in the same direction at the same time...A pipe dream I know.

I don't lament the demise of the other place at all, it happened and we just need to move on but I lament the continuance of the same behaviours here. People in positions of power will always abuse it, or use it for good and I think there's a little of each here, as in the real world.

Everyone one wants a scapegoat when in truth they need only look in the mirror because usually that king or queen of fools looking back at them is who is really responsible.

Outbound influencers..... My Caturday posting was Smokey and the Bandit flavored due to Your comment about Faith watching it last week. Engagement does have a cause & effect. Now take that car your in and jump the ditch Bandit Style.... LMAO...!!maxresdefault.jpg

Haha, my LandCruiser wouldn't fly as well as that TransAm but I'll give it a go the next time the cops are chasing me.

A very smart selfie there:)
I know that you are going to say that you hate selfies, so I do it for you lol.
We joined in the 16th of June 2017 and you have obviously made better headway in here. Congrats.

Not for a lack of trying, but I think the word charity in my tag line but it doesn't bother me.
It also draws special people to my posts and those are the ones that I want to surround myself with.
Engagement is indeed a core issue and you are totally correct.

Reading is a matter of concern for me.
My idea is to write uplifting and mostly positive content and the few readers identify with it, but the majority only comment on the tag picture.

Be that as it is, English second language viewers should at least bother to use translators when they comment on posts.
"That dog is nice", when I am writing about a squirrel just doesn't do it for me.

Yeah, I hear you about the language which is why I only rarely vote on anything that is not in English. It's funny you mention about that dog but it's a squirrel,...One of my brother's put a photo on our WhatsApp family group of a lake in Finland in which he had captured a deer leaping in the air.. Good photo...

...My comment?

I love how you captured that dog jumping in the air on this photo.

Lol...I can be a sarcastic bugger.

Hahaha, good one and I bet that he wasn't impressed Lol.
Suppose he chirped you some grief right back.

That word "bugger" was my gran's strongest swear word and whenever she rarely uttered it, her whole day was spoiled. I was of course always "innocent", but the only one that she called a little bugger lol.

He came back with some smart-ass comment, which I deserved. Lol.

Going to take a chance now to sneak out for a quick drive, as in this fog the ocean offers some good shots. I will have to take shots from the car and if a cop rocks up will just have to make like I am on the phone.
Wish me luck!

Luck!

Just tell the cop you are sleep-walking. Lol.

Hahaha, oh yeah, easy to yawn and to wipe the sleep from eyes.
Then in the bright morning sunshine to say; "Good evening officer"

Archaic applications such as facebook have done a lot of harm to users. :-D

Yes, I can only agree with this legit observation. The dumbing down of society. I'm not on FB fortunately, I have better things to do.

Thanks for your comment. 🙂

well said and written. Without adding value to people. It is impossible to retrieve it from them no matter how little it might be.

Be sure to expect what you do to others. Establishing a genuine conversation by adding meaningful comment to others post is important and number one priority on this platform.

I could say my comment is more than the post I had on the page. Some people no matter how hard you try to reach out to them they won't reciprocate. But one won't look at it that way. At the early stage I joined steem I made a lot of engagement and it help a lot as I have lot of Friend that we still talk still today. The point is one should just keep doing the right thing and find his path to success.

I'm glad you came up with this.

Yes, engagement is a critical element towards gaining some traction...To gather people around you, that are beholden to you through your engagement-relationship, makes sense. Clearly you understand that of course. Thanks for your comment.

People are still people, even online. If you take the same rules you'd apply in person, and apply them here, you'll get similar results. Better, even, since it takes less confidence to post here than to approach a stranger and strike up a conversation.

It's all pretty logical right? Thanks for weighing in with a comment...We all need to push this hard I think, and yet people don't.

Well we are a community first as seen with the fork when we thought JS was just going to take over for the user count. I try to comment, but not being a wordsmith like yourself and your brother. I do try and comment often and have met a large number of people here. I also have concerns about the "quality" police as we are all people from different places and cultures. My last concern is what is the primary use case blogging or WHAT?

WOW more words than I have written in a long time, Thanks for the prod.

Agreed with everything here. I think we all need to look at quality and address abuse of the reward pool in respect of it. A bowl of soup receiving $120 isn't legit in my opinion, but neither is passing over something because it is poorly written by a person who doesn't speak English as their first language. Some balance is required.

Haha, yeah this is a lot of words for you...Well done, now take a break, have some cookies or something, build up your strength. 🤣

Ha Ha, just had cookies before commenting on your post. Then I actually commented on one of @tarazkp's posts. Just working my way thru today's hive feed.

Well, it seems like those cookies gave you much commenting power so they worked a treat! 🙂

They were Girl Guide cookies to boot.😉

I hope you had some milk with them. 😁

No, just water.

and believe it should largely happen on hive, not Discord.

Right here I am guilty. I read almost your every post, maybe not on time, but I do. But I comment maybe on 5% on them, maybe less. Same is true for a few people I read regularly. I don’t engage enough on chain.

However, the type of things I do it is often hard to engage on chain. I remember on some busy days I can spend 4 hrs on “communication” on discord. I often time don’t like it that much, but I guess someone got to do it.

Firstly thanks for reading my posts my broo, I appreciate that.

Secondly yes, there is a time and place for everything and sometimes not everything can be posted on the chain. I use Discord too, and understand that there's people like yourself doing stuff behind the scenes that enhances and supports what happens on hive. Unfortunately many don't understand that and so can't show their gratitude - I do, and can, so thank you.

I guess I mean more the interaction that is post related. I've seen it on Discord and figure that those comments could be better-placed on the actual post.

I say it a lot, but will say it more...That comment an account like you or me place on a new user often means so much more to a new account than the effort used to place the comment.

It's no different to me receiving a comment from you on my posts, which really makes me happy. If Dan or Acid, Justine or some other such large (established) account made a comment on me the result would be the same, and I'm reasonably established! Imagine for someone new! That's why I engage with them so much...It helps retention in my opinion. If we all did it, and of course, those new accounts did it too, then we'd thrive.

Just my humble and probably simplistic opinion. I am but a simple dude after all.

I hope you're having a crackin' weekend broo.

Absolutely; you know I read something today from Murakami that I really liked, maybe you will like it too

“If you can’t understand something without explanation; you can’t understand it with the explanation”

I like that. Stealing it...Ok, let's just say borrowing as it makes me seem less criminal. 😉

I'll put that to good use cobber (mate) so thanks for sharing.

Cheers mate! You have a cracking day :)

Nice post bro. Followed. Please follow back.🤣

For sure, only because you asked so nicely. 🤣

Okay sorry for spamming your post!!! But one more POSH

Have a nice Monday! 😁

No problem, anytime. 😊

Commenting on other people's posts is more sweeter when it's been reciprocated. I feel that's why most of us feel discouraged.

Thanks for the tips ❤️

Commenting on other people's posts is the only way for a person to put themselves out there and on the radar. If people don't comment on my posts I don't know who they are just the same as if I don't comment on their posts. Still each of us can do what we choose, and will have to accept the results, or lack of results, they achieve. Building ones account is only going to be done in this way.

Thanks for your comment.

Quite elaborate!

If I comment on ten posts per day before. I'm going to increase it to x2 (20).

Im always elated when I get a detailed comment like this from someone, it means you value the recipient and you're pleased to impact some knowledge in the person.

Thanks for your time.

Hope you are keeping safe.

20 comments a day is a good number considering you're also going to get replies which will need your follow up.

It's the back and forth that matters, and that your comments are relevant and related to the post or person. If you keep that up you'll find you get more followers, more return-engagement and greater reward from an emotional and enjoyment perspective, then from a financial perspective also.

If you spread your comments between various people, those you know, a few you don't, some larger accounts, some smaller, you'll have a good spread of people responding and you may learn from those around you, get better at engaging, better and writing and your fun-factor will increase.

All the best, I look forward to seeing how you go.

Oh, you may want to get onto the Engagement League also. The link is below to last weeks results posted yesterday. Take a look. Being in the El will help you track your results easily, without doing any work. Just comment as a reply to the following link and @abh12345 will include you if you like.

https://hive.blog/hive-174578/@abh12345/the-hive-engagement-league-qa41qe

All the best, and thank you for your engagement, I really appreciate it.

Interesting, have learnt that one. But pls what does the flag mean?

I'm sorry, which flag do you refer to? A downvote?

Yea thedownvote

It is a tool designed to allow people to show disagreement with some aspect of the post however is often used as a tool attack others also, which is a shame.

Let's say someone was abusing the reward pool by self-voting on their very bad content 10 times a day, every day and was receiving no engagement on those posts. That is called reward-pool abuse and would attract downvotes.

The downvote returns any reward to the reward pool so that others can benefit from it rather than that other account raping the rewards for themselves.

The downvote is designed for the community to address issues as a whole, to remind those abusing the system that that sort of behaviour affects us all negatively and that it will not be tolerated.

However, some use it to retaliate, to attack and just for fun, which I don't think is the right way to go.

Does this help. Do you have any other questions?

Thank you, have learnt that.

I spend A LOT of time on Discord. I am trying to chat with people in the Hive channel, also hang out in other voice channels on Discord. I used to comment on lots of posts but it never seemed to get me anywhere. So I just started hanging out in Discord.

Not been around much as I have my hands full with other plans I am working towards. It takes much of my time and I try to put up posts about that but does not leave much time for other things right now.

It's all up to the individual I guess and if you find value in Discord then that's where you should be I think. Life is too short not to invest in the things that make one's heart sing, provide value and make one feel content and happy.

All the best.

Yeah, everyone has a different way of engaging I guess. I just choose to use Discord.
Have a good night!